My first attempt at 'The Machine'. A pictorial :)

[BaronVonVapesAlot]

Hey Nexians!

Just wanted to share my first home-made creation with you all
Next comes changa, and then (once I've finished this first batch) I'll be doing my first extraction!

In the meantime, here she is

Started with a liquid smoke bottle. (148ml). Washed off the label and wafted a touch of smoking sage around it.

Started drilling! I own neither diamond tipped, nor glass cutting drill bits. The going was very, very slow.

Progress! (about 7-10 minutes in - a couple of wobbly hand breaks included)

Success! Unfortunately, as I broke through, I'd been applying enough pressure to accidentally punch the bottom of the glass with the chuck, cracking it slightly. It's still air tight and (seemingly) safe though!

Despite very wobbly hands, I figured she needed some temporary illustration at least

Burned the living bejesus out of one of these, scrunching the remains periodically to remove as much ash as possible:

Stuffed about a half an inch of burned wool about an inch into the neck (now I can easily load the machine by sprinkling directly into the neck) and added another half inch of sandwich/buffer wool on top, to the brim.

These are on order: Silicone Straws and will be sealed into the suction hole with blu-tack or similar.



So far I've only tried this and the classic meth pipe. This wins hands down. Breakthroughs easily achievable on 2 hits at 30mg although I've taken her up to 50mg.
If anyone wants pictures from other angles, has any questions related to making this, or administering from it, just ask!

 

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Lovely creation :thumb_up:

I still find the machine as the most efficient hyperspace teleportation device. It take some practice to perfect the technique though. Also having helping hand to handle torch, does the trick.

For me comfortable dose typically is 25-27mg, for a wild but pleasant ride. Try 40mg+ to touch the rainbow

 

[metadimethyl]

love the perfect pictures, share more please and let us know how usable it is

 

[BaronVonVapesAlot]

love the perfect pictures, share more please and let us know how usable it is

Thanks for the encouragement! Hopefully the straws arrive tomorrow. If so, I'll take a good few more photos. The 2 gauze system is great for loading the machine up, with no need to pre-melt the spice or perform any balancing acts

So far I've found the method to be far superior to using a classic crack pipe, although the vapour, when forming at its thickest is rather hot due to holding my jet lighter rather close. I'm still figuring out the correct distances and wool thickness. I guess there will be some additional cooling along the straw, but not much as it's silicone.

For me comfortable dose typically is 25-27mg, for a wild but pleasant ride. Try 40mg+ to touch the rainbow

I think these might be pretty much the right dosages for me, too. I'm still nailing down the technique, but 40-50mg got me to my first and strongest breakthrough (I met with and became a Gecko in a huge garden! Mind blowing). Definitely looking forward to testing this some more
What I'm trying to figure out now is wool thickness, and jet lighter position & distance. Any pointers?

 

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What I'm trying to figure out now is wool thickness, and jet lighter position & distance. Any pointers?

Thickness - it depends, mine typically is not thicker than 1.5-2cm.

It is useful to point bottle nose tilted down while vaping, because spice runs from the heat. Keeping bottle nose tilted down will help with gravity pulling spice towards flame.

I also point flame directly at mesh only when preheating, melting spice into it or on finishing tokes.

When I vape, for first toke I keep flame perpendicular to the bottle axis, and keep distance between tip odf the flame and mesh at about 2-3cm. This way when you inhale you suck in heated air (if you see tip of the jet bending towards mesh you are doing it right) and no direct combustion happens.

Typically first toke is where the most of juice is, 2nd and 3rd are to vape the remains, so for 2nd and subsequent ones I point flame directly at mesh at first from a distance (start like 15-20cm away), then approach it. Often for 3rd toke I am just toasting the mesh, since most of the sauce has been either vaped or escaped into the depth of mesh.

Hope this is not confusing. Distances can vary with size of bottle, mesh and type of lighter.
But in general I find jet lighters much better for machine than bic or clipper.

 

[boots]

Very groovy Sir BaronVapes, boots approves.

Sometime in the near future, boots will be acquiring a TIG welder and may produce some high quality metallic contraption. A friend suggested to boots to hook in a NOx input tube to a smoke chamber.

But boots likes your machine, simple & sweet ... and effective from what your posts say

 

[antares]

Very groovy Sir BaronVapes, boots approves.

Sometime in the near future, boots will be acquiring a TIG welder and may produce some high quality metallic contraption. A friend suggested to boots to hook in a NOx input tube to a smoke chamber.

But boots likes your machine, simple & sweet ... and effective from what your posts say

I am sure you are already aware of it, but I'll mention it for the benefit of readers unaware of the chemical properties of NOx. It is highly combustible. Unless you have an extremely well thought out and engineered device, you will end up with a flamethrower shooting into your mouth or an explosive device between your lips.

 

[Sakkadelic]

This looks like my first machine i drilled by hand :lol: it even broke in the same way
I never learned how to use it properly to breakthrough bcz i kept making changa, but i had nice trips with it
Good luck!

 

[boots]

Very groovy Sir BaronVapes, boots approves.

Sometime in the near future, boots will be acquiring a TIG welder and may produce some high quality metallic contraption. A friend suggested to boots to hook in a NOx input tube to a smoke chamber.

But boots likes your machine, simple & sweet ... and effective from what your posts say

I am sure you are already aware of it, but I'll mention it for the benefit of readers unaware of the chemical properties of NOx. It is highly combustible. Unless you have an extremely well thought out and engineered device, you will end up with a flamethrower shooting into your mouth or an explosive device between your lips.

Boots does not mean to cause any kind of argument, but NOx is little more dangerous than oxygen. If one mixed NOx with a volatile fuel, it would indeed be extremely explosive.

It is why NOx is used in racing. When NOx gas is injected into an engine, it dramatically increases the amount of oxygen available for combustion thus allowing more fuel to be used & creating a serious boost in power.

But, on its own, NOx is just one part of the fire triangle. It still requires heat & fuel to become combustible. Thus, if it is mixed in with the smoke after the substance has been burned, there is no danger. Smoke is not a very good fuel & in the applications one would use for ingestion it would also be at a low temperature.

Even if you injected NOx into the combustion part of such a smoking apparatus, all the NOx would do is increase the combustibility of the available fuel. Since we are dealing with fuels that are very nonvolatile, there is no danger. It is the same as adding in extra oxygen. What is burning will burn hotter, yes, but it takes a volatile fuel to become explosive. NOx is like a fan to a flame, increasing the available oxygen so that what is burning can do so more efficiently. Adding oxygen to burning wood will not cause an explosion.

That said, some fuel sources that are usually nonvolatile can be volatile in certain conditions, such as flour. A lump of flour is not very volatile, but the dust of flour when mixed into the air is extremely volatile as the combustible surface of the flour has been optimized. It is why grain silos explode.

But we are dealing with a small amount of a substance in a bowl.

I hope this goes to show that boots was not advocating something that would get anyone hurt via explosions or fire & boots thanks antares for their prudence in warning. For further reading: Nitrous oxide - Wikipedia

 

[antares]

Fair point. However, combustible organic materials are potential fuel. Having said that, you are right in that it can be be done in a number of ways safely. Strategic placement of a flashback arrestor like a percolator would be a sensible precaution.

There are some incredibly naive people out there who let their enthusiasm for a new idea overrule their judgement of their diy abilities. Seeing pictures of people screwing up something as basic as a BHO extraction makes you wonder about how they would treat NOx. My comments were not directed at you but rather at lurkers on the wider internet stumbling across this thread.

 

[boots]

Fair point. However, combustible organic materials are potential fuel. Having said that, you are right in that it can be be done in a number of ways safely. Strategic placement of a flashback arrestor like a percolator would be a sensible precaution.

There are some incredibly naive people out there who let their enthusiasm for a new idea overrule their judgement of their diy abilities. Seeing pictures of people screwing up something as basic as a BHO extraction makes you wonder about how they would treat NOx. My comments were not directed at you but rather at lurkers on the wider internet stumbling across this thread.

Indeed, make something foolproof & they just make better fools.

A cautionary word is always a good thing to toss in for such a reality

Boots could have been better with that himself.

 

[BaronVonVapesAlot]

What I'm trying to figure out now is wool thickness, and jet lighter position & distance. Any pointers?

Thickness - it depends, mine typically is not thicker than 1.5-2cm.

It is useful to point bottle nose tilted down while vaping, because spice runs from the heat. Keeping bottle nose tilted down will help with gravity pulling spice towards flame.

I also point flame directly at mesh only when preheating, melting spice into it or on finishing tokes.

When I vape, for first toke I keep flame perpendicular to the bottle axis, and keep distance between tip odf the flame and mesh at about 2-3cm. This way when you inhale you suck in heated air (if you see tip of the jet bending towards mesh you are doing it right) and no direct combustion happens.

Typically first toke is where the most of juice is, 2nd and 3rd are to vape the remains, so for 2nd and subsequent ones I point flame directly at mesh at first from a distance (start like 15-20cm away), then approach it. Often for 3rd toke I am just toasting the mesh, since most of the sauce has been either vaped or escaped into the depth of mesh.

Hope this is not confusing. Distances can vary with size of bottle, mesh and type of lighter.
But in general I find jet lighters much better for machine than bic or clipper.

Thanks for the tips! Blew my head off the other day with them

Adding more pictures of my second attempt, with a side drilled hole (bought proper equipment), scrunched up copper wire (with the enamel burned off) and a silicone straw so I can see what I'm doing.

I've just started playing around with a Yocan Evolve Plus and Plus XL... Will probably chime in on one of the many threads out there at some point, but I've gotta say, it seems like the way to go