My friend is overdoing everything...

[SHroomtroll]

I have a friend who i got to know when he was together with my girlfriends best friend.

We were both into smoking pot and he had done some psychs in the past mostly rolling though.

Anyway i started taking him to some forest parties and we had a great time ,we brought out girls a few times too.


Anyway about 6months ago his girl broke up since he was kind of unhappy with life when sober and because he did some stupid shit that hurt her feelings...


The thing is after that he has started to either take acid or roll every weekend and i´m really starting to get worried about it.

We were at a great party this weekend and i just could not see him happy, didnt matter how much drugs he ingested it just wasnt enough it seems.


I do care about him but it seems hard to work with someone who feels sorry for them self and feels they need a girl who should make them happy instead of finding that in themself.


I know he had some problems with rolls in the past and i honestly thin most of the depression comes from having low serotenin levels and that´s probably why he can´t appreciate acid or really anything anymore.

Ive tried talking to him about not rolling for at least 6months but he is kind of hard to get through to.

Any ideas guys?

 

[MalargueZiggy]

Well obviously you can't preach at him, but lend a helping hand and listen to him, but you need to get him into that state of self-awareness. If the acid isn't doing it for him then I would suggest ayahuasca or mescaline.

If he's big into trips at the moment then he'll be up for it and he will probably have some important revelations on it. Obviously you need to be there to talk to him and discuss any revelations he has. I can't stress how important it is that it comes from him originally though, even if in your response you direct his thoughts a particular way. E.G stressing the importance of living in the present and letting go of the past.

Also the anti-depressant qualities of aya could work wonders on him.

I had a similar friend who was on a self-destructive path, and I posted on here about it actually, a few years ago. He was big into forest parties and squat raves as well, and was basically nocturnal, working nights in a hospital. He refused to do aya and just took loads of speed and K, and in the end there was little I could do except be there for him. Now, finally, after about 4 years he's sorted his head out (without psychedelics), he's paid me and others back money he owes and seems to be genuinely happy at last.

I guess what I'm saying is, offer him help to begin with, but if he resists it then maybe it's best to let him discover it for himself. I believe that good people come good in the end.

 

[SHroomtroll]

we have done aya a few times and he liked it, the thing is he seems to mostly get a nice buzz out of it and has a hard time getting anything useful out of it.

Ive given him loads of changa but it seems to work in a similar way, he get´s tripped out and a nice high.


Ive been thinking about giving him aya but a bigger dose than he expects to try to get him to get the point, although that feels kind of unethical.

 

[MalargueZiggy]

Yeah, you're right, that is unethical. If you want to go down that route then you have to propose a higher dose. If he isn't up for a higher dose then it shows he knows on some level that he's not facing up to something, which in itself is a start right?

Try mescaline... There's no better experience to make you glad to be alive imo.

 

[dreamtimereturn]

i've never rolled but it seems like a very draining process, maybe get him to read some of these commentswith you, for a newerperspective of your own situation on the matter..
the vibes are here to draw on. good luckﱟ

 

[SHroomtroll]

I think the most he has drank is about 3grams of mimosa which is a preety mellow dose in my experience, it might give you insights but won´t break you enough to force a change.

The most i drank was 5grams which in the end was very powerful and showed me alot of good stuff.


About the rolling i think a big part of the problem is that he doesnt seem to get any direct side effects from doing it, i myself get depressed for up to a week so i don´t touch mdma more than once or tvice per year.

Now he is up to a point where he barely get´s any effect at all but that doesnt seem to stop him from doing it though.


Honestly i don´t think information is the problem since he knows how this stuff effects him, it´s probaby more a motivation issue and the sense that the drugs don´t work anymore so his life is becoming more empty every week.

I just hope he doesnt start using heavy stims again since he had problems with them before starting using psychs.

I will def try to have a sesion with him and ask if he wants to go deeper after or the next time.

 

[dreamtimereturn]

I think the most he has drank is about 3grams of mimosa which is a preety mellow dose in my experience, it might give you insights but won´t break you enough to force a change.

The most i drank was 5grams which in the end was very powerful and showed me alot of good stuff.

so maybe give him the five grams you know worked for you and then ask about more..
to be honest and i know i've already posted this else ware today so i'll just link you to the recipe that worked exponentially well for me lastnight

About the rolling i think a big part of the problem is that he doesnt seem to get any direct side effects from doing it, i myself get depressed for up to a week so i don´t touch mdma more than once or tvice per year.

is being unhappy or not able to be happy even on those substances not considered an direct side effect? :\

Now he is up to a point where he barely get´s any effect at all but that doesnt seem to stop him from doing it though.


Honestly i don´t think information is the problem since he knows how this stuff effects him, it´s probaby more a motivation issue and the sense that the drugs don´t work anymore so his life is becoming more empty every week.

mimosa isn't empty! he'll know when universe interwoven vibrations show themselves:shock:
its something so much deeper than just rolling imo, once he gets a taste for it he'll come back for more, but it will require him to change, but then consider oblivion :shock: :shock:

I will def try to have a sesion with him and ask if he wants to go deeper after or the next time.