Need help figuring out what we just did

[Gone-and-Back]

A few friends had recently acquired a substance that they were told was an extract from some Mexican mushroom. It appeared as a mostly fine white powder with some little crystalline rocks as well. They were told that they needed to snort it for it to work. So when they came back with this I was a little skeptical....

Anyways, once ingested, it took about a half hour to an hour tops to reach the peak. It took on the nature of a tryptamine, except for the visuals. There was never any morphing of objects or breathing walls or anything of that nature, except for things seemed to have very slight vibrations to them. Everything seemed different as well, but I could not place how. It was like I was looking at everything for the first time again. Whenever vision would sift from one object to another though, there was a delay in between the objects. I would be looking at the second object, but would still be seeing the first object for a second or two more, then my vision would instantly jump to the second object, without allowing me to see anything in between the two objects. There was a lack in memory too of what I had done slightly before hand. My body felt like a very large dose of mushrooms, very loose and almost numb. I had no coordination to my legs, and was not able to walk during the peak. It lasted for a few hours and the come down was kinda slow and gradual, up to a certain point where everything just kinda vanished and I was all of a sudden baseline. It was a very strange experience, and we still have not been able to find a name. The people we got it from just refer to it as "the chemical" because they do not know a name for it as well.

If anyone could give ideas to what this may have been, it would greatly be appreciated.

 

[Mr.Peabody]

It really could have been many things. Given an anecdotal account of the experience, and the fact that it was some sort of white powder, there's really not much to go on. If there's any left, I would think it would turn blue in a liquid solution if it was a psilocybin mushroom. That's all I've got.

I don't want to preach, but it's definitely not a good idea to go snorting some mystery powder. It's always best to know what you're using, and to study as much before hand about it.

 

[Ice House]

If anyone could give ideas to what this may have been, it would greatly be appreciated.

Do you really care what it was?

No you dont....

So why ask?

Anyone who snorts anything not knowing what it is......

Come on!

Read your post and then think about what you are saying and doing.

Reckless.....

 

[Pandora]

There's going to be no way to figure out what it was without testing it (i.e. tlc or such - not a big snort). Dancesafe and other organizations sell a number of test kits. It might be a starting point. If you are going to consume mysterious powders, especially via insufflation, I'd recommend testing for content, and then when you have more data or at least rule outs (if you are determined to move forward) then use the Shulgin style of allergy testing and dosing up, gradually.

First test should be a speck on your tongue, way under 1mg. Now, slowly over period of weeks or days slowly bump up, very gradual bump ups always watching for weird or allergic reactions. When taking a real, non-allergy-test dose, especially the first time, dose low. Low dosing with many things = you can dose a bit more later, but big doses are hard to back out of and if it turns out to be something that you didn't expect and/or toxic that could put a user somewhere between SOL and DOA.

 

[Rivea]

I hope that you are still in one piece after snorting said unknown substance.

Who knows, it could have been like the Ajax chick in the Cheech and Chong movie "Up In Smoke" who grabbed the straw out from behind her ear and snorted the freeway line of Ajax, made all the faces, and noises and no harm done.

All joking aside, with all of the unknown or mislabeled "white powder" chemicals out there who knows what you would have gotten yourself into with this stuff. Lucky for you in this game of Russian Roulette that you just played, when you pulled the trigger an empty cylinder lined up with the barrel and you did not get poisoned or die after the hammer fell.

Good luck and be careful man!

 

[cyb]

I'm with Ice House on this one...

"Need help figuring out what we just did"

What you did was gamble with your life and your sanity...:thumb_dow

 

[Crazyhorse]

Who knows, it could have been like the Ajax chick in the Cheech and Chong movie "Up In Smoke" who grabbed the straw out from behind her ear and snorted the freeway line of Ajax, made all the faces, and noises and no harm done.

Totally off topic, but I always thought that really was coke it was just being stored in an Ajax can (like for stealth I guess). When the cop comes in later and tests it, he says it turned blue (positive test result for coke, right?)

 

[cyb]

Totally off topic, but I always thought that really was coke it was just being stored in an Ajax can (like for stealth I guess). When the cop comes in later and tests it, he says it turned blue (positive test result for coke, right?)

Nah..the whole gag is that its Ajax...I love that movie... (although Stacey Keach is a dumass...).

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

he says it turned blue (positive test result for coke, right?)

i'm pretty sure ajax just turns blue when it gets wet

 

[Crazyhorse]

Ah ok I guess that makes sense.

I wasn't lookin at his neck!

 

[Jarl Von Hoother]

As you can see without a name to put over this 'psychedelic white powder' chosen out of hearsay without skepticism- we can only guess how high the wily gringo jumped- skipping away with your money.

and we can guess...
you weren't given a psychedelic
take it to the cops to throw it away

JVH

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Oh I know its not safe to consume an unknown substance, and I was not stupid enough to just take one big dose all at once. We did test very minuscule amounts a few times before actually taking a larger amount. I may not be the smartest person, doing something that I do not know what it is, but I did take precautions on the subject. I also was not worried about it being a poison at all, for it came from trusted sources who I had been with while they were under the influence of said substance, and this was on many different occasions. They all never had any problems from it, so it appeared to be something at least somewhat safe...I mean, its not really safe to consume any substance like that, regardless if it is known or not known. In the end, nothing bad happened for anyone involved. Its not something that I ever plan on doing again though unless I figure out what it is, and even then I may not.

 

[wearepeople]

Oh I know its not safe to consume an unknown substance, and I was not stupid enough to just take one big dose all at once. We did test very minuscule amounts a few times before actually taking a larger amount. I may not be the smartest person, doing something that I do not know what it is, but I did take precautions on the subject. I also was not worried about it being a poison at all, for it came from trusted sources who I had been with while they were under the influence of said substance, and this was on many different occasions. They all never had any problems from it, so it appeared to be something at least somewhat safe...I mean, its not really safe to consume any substance like that, regardless if it is known or not known. In the end, nothing bad happened for anyone involved. Its not something that I ever plan on doing again though unless I figure out what it is, and even then I may not.

Can you just ask them what it was?

 

[Mystic0]

Sounds a lot like a 2C, more like a 2C-B, did it burn like hell when you snorted it? I mean, SERIOUSLY burn like hell when you snorted it, was it very fine powder or fairly crystal looking, what kind of white colour was it? yellow tinges anything like that?

I agree with a lot of folks here, you probably just played a seriously risky game of roulette with an unknown white powder, please take more responsibility in future, it's stupid.. we've all done it at some point or another mind but still, very stupid.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

I did ask them what it was. I was told that a friend of theirs had eaten some unusual mushrooms that had some very nauseating effects, yet at the same time made him trip out. He brought these mushrooms to a friend of his who is a chemist and told him about the trip. The chemist said he would try to extract each separate compound in the mushroom and isolate each one of them, so they could figure out which compounds were the ones that caused nausea and which ones were the ones that made him trip so hard. The substance we were given was the result of their trials with each compound that was extracted. I never got a name though, but someone had mentioned Amanitas, although I dont know if they were talking about the powder at that point...

However, whatever it was did not burn at all Mystic, it went down rather smoothly. It was mostly a very fine powder with small slight chunks here and there. It was a pretty pure white, maybe slightly tinged. And yes I know its stupid, but Im not here for criticism, I just want to figure out what we had possibly done.

 

[Pandora]

. . . but Im not here for criticism, I just want to figure out what we had possibly done.

Well, given that this is the Nexus, you kind of opened yourself up wide for some. This place is not like any other drug forum and one thing that makes it so is the emphasis on safety and knowledge.

Also, given the reality that we are never going to be able to determine the makeup of what you took, that only leaves things like harm reduction recommendations and criticisms.

Please be safe. Please stay alive to trip another day.

 

[Sky Motion]

I love snorting unknown substances.. you're damn lucky it wasn't 25i and you're not dead on the ground.

Had a few idiot acquaintances almost blow a line of it once and that would have been the end of them.

Psychedelics and drugs in general will always have a bad rep for irresponsibility such as this..smarten up OP. For your and everyone's sake.

 

[acacian]

Yeah, I echo the posts from other users here... please understand that none of these messages are aimed as a personal attack at yourself, but rather as a warning to yourself and others who are potentially putting themselves and others at risk. The nexus prides itself on being a place of safety and responsibility, and these kind of posts compromise that goal and put the site at risk. Ultimately it is your decision what you put into your body... but this is not the place for that kind of reckless experimentation.
be safe!

also how are we meant to have any idea what the compound is if you can't give a specific species name?

 

[Gone-and-Back]

I do not know Acacian, I have tried finding out myself and again I think they mentioned Amanitas, which would make it only able to be muscimol or ibotenic acid, but then again I do not believe those can be snorted...I was hoping that someone out there would of had an experience similar, but knew what they took. I probably never will find out, hence why I shall never touch it again. I thinking of even throwing out what is left.

 

[Mr.Peabody]

Well if you have some left, you ought to be able to figure it out! At least hold on to it, and maybe you'll meet someone with the ability to test it and tell you. It may be harmless, it may be something you never want to do again, but find out man!! It very well could be psilocybin or psilocin. I would imagine those compounds would be active by snorting,and they are from mushrooms, and mushrooms do make people nauseous from time to time. That's what my money is on.

How long did the experience last?

One last safety plug, just something that I thought of. Trust is fine for many things in life; you have to trust people in many situations. Trusting even your closest friends can get you killed with things like this. It always seems to me that we get one warning for almost everything. It's weird, but I always get a warning from the cosmos. This experience was your warning, and I'm sure you've gotten that by now. We just care about folks here! I hate hearing about people getting hurt.