Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)

[ncsponger]

Thanks for the Kalkwasser info guys. Got 100 grams of peruvianus powder coming. We'll see how reputable this *bay seller is and will report. SWIM can't wait! Never tried mesc.

which bay vendor?

"TrancePlants".

 

[psychosisdoses]

Thanks for the Kalkwasser info guys. Got 100 grams of peruvianus powder coming. We'll see how reputable this *bay seller is and will report. SWIM can't wait! Never tried mesc.

which bay vendor?

"TrancePlants".

i am also waiting for a package from them... ill let you know my yeilds

 

[obliguhl]

Does anyone know if "100% cold pressed & untreated orange oil" sounds safe enough to use?

 

[nibpack]

Finally about 150 ml of the 750 ml D-Limonene that ended up in my friends cactus ooze for the first pull has been poured off. Better than nothing I suppose.
It's just a litre of sludge now. I suspect the limonene formed some kind of emulsion with the over-abundance of water.
What little limonene he got out is getting cloudy after adding vinegar. The idiot clearly messed up big time.

 

[ncsponger]

i am also waiting for a package from them... ill let you know my yeilds

Cool. I've been trying to figure out when to expect delivery. The package is apparently coming from Canada by CanadaPost mail. I searched CanadaPost's website but was unable to find much information about delivery times. I'm hoping it doesn't get turned over to USPS snail mail when it crosses the border.

 

[psychosisdoses]

i am also waiting for a package from them... ill let you know my yeilds

Cool. I've been trying to figure out when to expect delivery. The package is apparently coming from Canada by CanadaPost mail. I searched CanadaPost's website but was unable to find much information about delivery times. I'm hoping it doesn't get turned over to USPS snail mail when it crosses the border.

patience friend ... it will come dont worry about it.

 

[nibpack]

My friend ended up with a small sultana sized lump (He has no scales) of waxy tan Mescaline acetate from his first vinegar pull, even after screwing up every measurement and losing almost all his Limonene to the gelatinous ooze.
This is one solid tek, after all those mistakes he still got very good results. I'll post an update on his final yield.
Thanks 69ron, this is a truly brilliant tek.

 

[psychosisdoses]

My friend ended up with a small sultana sized lump (He has no scales) of waxy tan Mescaline acetate from his first vinegar pull, even after screwing up every measurement and losing almost all his Limonene to the gelatinous ooze.
This is one solid tek, after all those mistakes he still got very good results. I'll post an update on his final yield.
Thanks 69ron, this is a truly brilliant tek.

EAT IT!

 

[amor_fati]

SWIM just got about 500mg more of mescaline acetate from his Peruvian. The last yield he reduced in the oven but allowed to evaporate naturally. He ended up with mostly sticky white powder and a spot that scraped up as an orange skin, whereas his previous ones ended up as a tar, presumably from melting in the oven. His total yield thusfar is 1350mg (1.35%), and since it's Peruvian, it's likely to be mostly mescaline. Due to such a high yield, he will continue to pull.

 

[psychosisdoses]

SWIM just got about 500mg more of mescaline acetate from his Peruvian. The last yield he reduced in the oven but allowed to evaporate naturally. He ended up with mostly sticky white powder and a spot that scraped up as an orange skin, whereas his previous ones ended up as a tar, presumably from melting in the oven. His total yield thusfar is 1350mg (1.35%), and since it's Peruvian, it's likely to be mostly mescaline. Due to such a high yield, he will continue to pull.

very nice..
vendor if you dont mind me asking? pm if you feel so inclined..

 

[Phlux-]

all this talk - torch containing mostly mesc - pedro containing more other nonmesc alky's ???

from what swim knows - (bad genes aside - swim never encountered bad torch) torch contains more mesc than pedro, torch also contains a hell of a lot more other alky's then pedro. bridgesii is in its own league and contains totally different non mesc alky's from either pedro or torch - some with maoi like activity.

swim will have to find some kinda support for these claims but is a bit busy at work atm - so later.

 

[69ron]

It's SWIM's experience that the Torch is very clean and almost like pure mescaline. San Pedro and Achuma are full of other stuff. SWIM gets noticeable vasoconstriction effects from even low doses of Achuma, but not much from the others. The trip from all three is different. Achuma is often said to be the most peyote like. SWIM finds Achuma to be very dream-like in character. For SWIM Achuma is the least like mescaline of the three.

 

[Phlux-]

hrmm - very interesting the mixed results - but the answer could be simple - swim has many torches - long spined, short spined, etc... so many trich spp are called torches - some ppl claim there is no such thing as a macrogonus - some say its a torch - with no clear definition of a torch its hard to speak about it. pedro and bridgesii dont seem to have this issue tho.

 

[kemist]

ILPT think tek is good but he heard people winging about extensive amount of pulls needed. Apparently drying it`s necessary, then powdered it and do 3-5 pulls max

I know for a fact that freebase mescaline forms mescaline carbonate when exposed to air.If drying it causes it to form mescaline carbonate, then it would probably be insoluble in d-limonene, and this would ruin the extraction process.

if this is only concern one can easily use Glass dessicator for `air free`-`heat free` drying, hmm

with some
silica gel
which will turn from blue to pink as indication of water saturation. Saturated `pink` could be easily dry in oven until it turn blue again and reuse it

Glass vacuum desicators are even better(for easy to oxidize alkaloids LSD group etc.)

Anyway in which solvent will be mesc.carbonate soluble if clumsy chemist manage to create it?

As far as oxidation goes, I don't know. It probably does oxidize. Most alkaloids do. After drying the freebase mescaline, you might end up with some mescaline N-Oxide and some mescaline carbonate…I don’t know…If you end up with mescaline N-Oxide I think you would be screwed also because it should be insoluble in d-limonene. You’d have a tough time getting it back to freebase mescaline.

Don`t think mescal oxidize that much,those 3 metoxy groups on aryl are quiet stabilizing, however enough heat would definitely oxidize it.

 

[amor_fati]

SWIM imagines that somewhere around ten washes with a fairly generous amount of limonene (the same limonene poured through many times) with wet material in THP and a generous amount of vinegar (slightly more than the amount of limonene?) would be sufficient to avoid multiple pulls. It certainly takes some getting used to, but it doesn't necessarily require so many pulls.

 

[nibpack]

Well I didn't end up buying scales to weigh my friends acetate, I figure I'll start with a matchhead sized lump and work my way up from there.

A matchhead sized lump couldn't possibly weigh more than 300mg could it? If it could, I'm boned!

 

[69ron]

No way. That's a realy small amount.

Get some gel caps and use this information.

SWIM found the following measurements for dry mescaline acetate (approximately 90% pure, extracted using this tech).

These measurements are for the amount of dry mescaline acetate that will fill the specified gel cap if tapped down tightly.

1 size "5" holds 65-75 mg
1 size "4" holds 110-120 mg
1 size "3" holds 165-175 mg
1 size "2" holds 205-215 mg
1 size "1" holds 280-290 mg
1 size "0" holds 390-400 mg
1 size "00" holds 540-550 mg
1 size "000" holds 790-800 mg

Most people find a size "5" to be very euphoric without psychedelic effects.

A size “3” is a good starter dose. That’s enough to know what mescaline is like without being blown away by it.

A size “0” and larger should be avoided unless you’re really comfortable with mescaline.

 

[nibpack]

Thanks Ron, that's really helpful! I've been trying to find some gel cap pics to compare to, this info is really useful.
I'm a low-tech kinda guy so I don't want to use scales unless I really have to.
My buddy is still pulling oodles of acetate from the mix, this tek is... Simply genius. I'm astounded.

 

[Phlux-]

perhaps get some tablet - like an asprin - that the weight is known - then balance it against that on a paperclip scale or grind up both powders separately then go by volume (maybe something other than asprin is required for this - something in hcl form ???

 

[rTyler]

only the weight of the active ingredient is listed on the box of the medications, not the weight of the pill