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Noopept massively potentiates iboga oneirophrenia: absolutely splendid!

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embracethevoid

embracethevoid

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Hey guys, made a rather amazing discovery. So I had 5g of root bark and I've made this rather foul concoction. Looked at the powder and thought "bugger this, I'm not capping all of that". So genius ol' me decides to dissolve it in water.

Whoops a daisy. First thing, ibogaine root bark is somewhat hydrophobic, or it takes eons to dissolve into solution (it did eventually). Second thing: the taste, oh GOD the taste. I used to gargle jurema brew and swish it around my mouth, I can even vaguely keep rue vomit plasma juice down and cactus snot is a valliant contender for my palate. But this? Oh god. I took a single sip from the cup thinking la la la, next thing I'm keeled over struggling with the force of a thousand horny spartans trying to stop my colon from exiting through my mouth. Just the faintest thought of it and I have to physically hold myself off of puking and breathe deep.


Sorted that out too thank God. I added salt pinch by pinch and honey by the dollop with a dash of apple cider vinegar to draw out the alkaloids; the salt neutralised the bitter astringency to a remarkably tolerable level, in fact it's now much easier to down than all the other brews mentioned above. So now using a turkey baster I'd drop it into the back of my throat while holding my breath. All good.

Now that I have played you the song of my people, let's get to the good shit. The next day I went for round 2 as I could barely hold the stuff down. Prior to this I had dosed over the course of the day while observing a water fast:

The 1g worth iboga concoction from before (SSRI effects from noribogaine are a major factor)
Vitamin D 10000 IU
Vitamin C 2000mg (containing bioflavonoids and rose hip)
N-Acetyl-Cysteine 5g
Acetyl-L-Carnitine 1.5g
Piracetam 4g
Oxiracetam 1g
Lion's Mane Mycelium 5g
Rhodiola Rosea in my system from a few days ago (MAO-A & B inhibiting action)
Vaped harmala extract - 200mg
Sage, Nettle, Green teas
Noopept 30mg

3+ hours of Qi Gong moving meditation per day prior to this for a few days


So that's all I think, just to ensure I'm not pinning it down on the wrong thing, please tell me if you think I am. So I take about a gram plus point five worth of bark juice. A few hours later, I am having full blown threshold flood dose visions. Previously I took ~2G of TA extract rated at 60% purity and this was more visual than that. Body load is next to zero, barely a tracer. This is incredible. Of course there are quite a lot of synergists which collectively create this experience but I pin it down primarily on the Noopept as I have observed similar oneirophrenia on the tail end of an MDMA trip.

Let me know what you think, opinions from pharmacologists especially would be great! It seems that one gram of this blessed sacred root bark goes a hell of a lot further than you would have thought!
 
For me Noopept alone gives me wild dreams too.

I personally love the relaxing and nootropic effects of Noopept but the fact that there is so little research on it worries me. The only few research papers on it are from Russia and with the powerful political 'lobbies' in Russia I'm not sure if that research is 100% legit.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
I can also confirm it works in reverse too:

Iboga/metabolites massively potentiate noopept. When I next went to work I found myself experiencing an incredibly clean stimulation that vastly outweighed amphetamine in every single way, shape and form. The cycle to work was an absolute breeze, I believe I put a good 2-3mph on top of my maximum sprint velocity.

It was highly euphoric yet had no "push" euphoria from forced neurotransmitter release, extremely fluid movements (though snappy/jerky at the same time which is more due to the high dose 100mg noopept than anything) and razor sharp concentration. I'm not surprised the Bwiti use this stuff to hunt and dance all night long.

I think small dose iboga (i.e. 1g bark) could be a worthwhile part of a nootropic stack. Perhaps if you cycled it 2 weeks on, 4 weeks off or something like that or longer even, depending on the elimination half-life of noribogaine.

The classical 5HT hallucinogens also exhibit brilliant nootropic effects but they inhibit the ability to process hard data and crunch numbers but I do not presently observe this with iboga though I have not yet tested it against something of good difficulty.

Edit: finished the rest of my brew off, maybe 1g worth of juice max... Did not observe oneirophrenia unfortunately. It may still occur via deep meditation, I've just been lazing about today.
 
200mg of rue harmalas vaped would have me tripping real hard as it is..if that makes any difference..or did you vape 200 mg of some kind of rue resin? 200mg of just seed smoked would produce some decent effects for me even.

Just me but I would think that the rue would have played just as much a role here as the iboga or Noopept.
 
PsilocybeChild said:
So 30mg Noopept + 1.5g Iboga root bark?
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That sounds about right. I prepared a concoction of 5g and drank it over several days. I could only process a little at a time so it would come to essentially that dose.

Jamie: I do not believe the rue played a part here. Can vaped rue last after 6 hours in the system in any way? I am reasonably confident that it is the action of the racetams. But they could not have this incredible action without the synergists - NAC, ALCAR & Lion's Mane, not to mention 6g fish oil (from mackarel or capsules).


Yesterday I dosed:

Noopept 100mg
Aniracetam 3g (3 hours before bark; aniracetam has biphasic effects due to its metabolites)
N-Acetyl-Cysteine 4g
ALCAR 1g
Vitamins C, D3, Multivitamin as previous
~1.5g bark concoction


And again, the same thing. I could not get into oneirophrenia while awake, I suspect due to the aniracetam. But WOW, when I slept, it was incredible, I have never experienced anything on this scale. Iboga in low doses has a more powerful punch than any psychedelic I have taken in high doses when it's potentiated and given its optimally desired set and setting: a hypnagogic state in the land of nod.


There are truly unique avenues of psychedelia that one cannot explore via other things. I only slept 2 hours in total, the entire thing was a lucid dream. Not of objects and happenings however. It was a lucid dream of feelings, emotions and thoughts: the feeling of divine clarity, the emotions of cleanliness & detoxification, rewiring & repair of the mind-body-spirit. A new-year for the body, a clean slate for the mind.

The iboga guided me into holding myself in my consciousness as a mirror looking in on itself. I focused intensely on the sensation of the Omniself manifesting all existence in the very moment now, the eternal happening until my focus dissolved into it as did I, I'll call this the Now-Self as it's independent of any individuals. Then I experienced total mystical bliss, sahaja samadhi. I was wide awake in my bed yet in the deepest of sleeps.


My lifeforce began surging, and I saw that your lifeforce and your connection to THIS which is happening now, always been happening and always will, are one and the same thing. The stronger your connection to that, the subtler control you can exercise over your body and the subtler control you develop over your body through methods such as exercise, the stronger your connection to the Self becomes.


I truly felt my astral ghost body for the first time. It is a light wisp, lighter than the lightest of gases, with no real shape, housed in the body. I was fast asleep lying on my side with my arms in front of me.

As I directed my attention to various parts of my body to release tension I noticed that suddenly I could see my arms through closed eyes, a faint yellowy glimmer. This was in the pitch black, and appeared to be constructed out of proprioceptary data. It was certainly a perfectly accurate image. They were not there at first then as I directed Chi/Lifeforce to my arm, my visual field started glowing and tracing its outline.


As for the astral body I experienced this in that state of samadhi. The veil between asleep and awake dissolved, entirely dissolved. I felt like a puppet on a string but I could pull the string at my own leisure. As if I had a little push slider control for my body, I would bounce up, stretch my arms and legs out a little, then bounce back to deepest sleep like nothing, I would do it over and over again just for the fun of it. The hallmark of this dissolution was a state of pristine system-wide relaxation. Not a single muscle was in contraction when it did not need to be, not one. I felt like a wisp of air, a flutter in the wind. And that's how I managed to percieve the astral self despite being still in the body.

This all comes from abiding in the Now-Self which essentially shifts your consciousness to stop feeling like it's restricted by the body to a mode where you feel that you entirely encompass your body, as you do. It is this Now-Self that puts you to sleep and wakes you up, it is your highest most absolute will, the final reality & outcome of all thought processes. Kind of like how the BIOS or even hardware of a computer can override the OS.


The visions were incredible and uh, indescribable so I can't really give a description, heh. Although I'll add that upon waking I looked to my side and saw two brutally realistic dismembered torsos like there had been some Mexican cartel killing in my house while I slept. Woke up thinking "oh boy oh boy, you gone dun it this time boy, you dun goofed" thinking about the police report and the cleanup then it turned out it was just a pile of blankets.

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So here I am, perfectly mentally rested after just 2 hours of sleep, absolutely buzzing like mad with clean energy. What a beautiful day, what a beautiful trip. I only share my most glowing experiences on the nexus, so please keep in mind I am not exaggerating, you're only hearing the best of the best of my ventures!

Peace and love folks
 
Interesting and eloquently described observations and experiences, thanks for sharing! The Noopept sounds interesting, have to admit I've not heard of it before now.


"As I directed my attention to various parts of my body to release tension I noticed that suddenly I could see my arms through closed eyes, a faint yellowy glimmer. This was in the pitch black, and appeared to be constructed out of proprioceptary data. It was certainly a perfectly accurate image. They were not there at first then as I directed Chi/Lifeforce to my arm, my visual field started glowing and tracing its outline."

I also experienced this exact phenomenon vividly on my first meeting with iboga...amazing experience! :)
 
I've been on the Pept for a month now and I can highly recommend it (in its own right, not in addition to anything).
It works in 15 mins.
It cures hangovers.(it's difficult to get drunk on it so drinking more than 2 becomes irrelevant)
It alleviates social anxiety and speech.
It provides extended focus for tasks and continues all day.
It's cheap and available.
It, in short, is a little 'wonder chem' and my new best friend, never felt more alive.
:thumb_up:

(20-30mg per day and DON'T overdo the dose..it isn't pleasant)
edit: oh and memory recall is affected too.
 
cyb said:
I've been on the Pept for a month now and I can highly recommend it (in its own right, not in addition to anything).
It works in 15 mins.
It cures hangovers.(it's difficult to get drunk on it so drinking more than 2 becomes irrelevant)
It alleviates social anxiety and speech.
It provides extended focus for tasks and continues all day.
It's cheap and available.
It, in short, is a little 'wonder chem' and my new best friend, never felt more alive.
:thumb_up:

(20-30mg per day and DON'T overdo the dose..it isn't pleasant)
edit: oh and memory recall is affected too.
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Its pretty nice stuff isn't it? :thumb_up:.

I take it a few times a week @5mg sub-lingual, usually just one dose a day and its one of the most effective nootropics i've tried. Definitely agree it helps with hangovers too. My personal home remedy for alcohol hangovers, is a full (16oz) glass of water right when you wake up, a breakfast with lots of eggs seasoned with turmeric/black pepper, citrus fruit, and a sub-lingual dose of noopept. Works damn near every time.

Just don't go taking it before you plan on getting some sleep, it can and will keep you awake, at least it does for me.

In terms of enhancing focus/mental abilities, i think its one of the best racetams. Aniracetam is good for anxiety, but noopept is, imho, the creme de la creme of nootropics.

Just keep your doses reasonable, and sub-lingual is ime, a much more efficient/effective delivery roa, though keep your tongue clamped down as long as possible. Nasty tasting stuff to say the least. Way more effective than oral dosing though.

I'd even say, caffeine and noopept, in terms of mental stimulation/enhancement/stamina, way better than any amphetamine or substituted phenethylamine monoamine releaser stimulant, and way more healthy on your body.

Just remember to get plenty of dietary choline, or bio-available supplements. Without eggs, or citicholine, on a daily dosing schedule, i got headaches from noopept. Get more dietary/supplementary choline, and thats no longer an issue.
 
The Day Tripper said:
way better than any amphetamine or substituted phenethylamine monoamine releaser stimulant, and way more healthy on your body.
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Have to agree...It's like the best of speed...without the worst of speed.
Echo the 'don't take it late in the day' thing...it will curb your sleep...morning only!
I will try sublingual if I can meditate the taste away...usually wash down with some bitter lemon.
 
cyb said:
The Day Tripper said:
way better than any amphetamine or substituted phenethylamine monoamine releaser stimulant, and way more healthy on your body.
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Have to agree...It's like the best of speed...without the worst of speed.
Echo the 'don't take it late in the day' thing...it will curb your sleep...morning only!
I will try sublingual if I can meditate the taste away...usually wash down with some bitter lemon.
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Ah, you can take the taste :lol:. Anyone who can drink aya, or sublngual rue can handle it. Though i'm notorious for my aquired taste of bitter tasting stuff :d. I can shoot back 10's of mls of water with 100+mg rue alkaoids in it, and chased with water its easy. Not to say it was always like that, i have just learned to put it out of my mind (or meditate 😉 the urge to gag) away with many a psych's taken like that (dissolved in water, taken as shots and chased with water).

And your not the only one i've heard compare it to amphetamines w/o all the nastiness thats associated with them. I've heard that from a few people via reports of its affects on forums.

As well, in regards to dreaming, racetams are a powerful catalyst ime. The only time i've ever been lucid was after struggling to fall asleep for hours after a microdose of caapi tea (~5g of strong black vine, i'd say ~30-50mg alkaoids), and a nootropic stack i used to take, 10mg noopept, 250mg citicholine, and 500mg alcar.

I've never combined them with psychs, other than that occasion with caapi (technically a psych imho), but its something i want to check out, once i feel comfortable tripping again (several month abstinence after a lsd/mescaline trip forced me to confront the problem of my self medication with psychs, and how it wasn't productive or healthy).

I'd imagine its memory enhancing capabilities would come in handy depending on the usage of said psych. Especially in regards to "bringing something useful back", as terrence most elouently once said.
 
The Day Tripper said:
Ah, you can take the taste :lol:.
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hehe..Unless you've taken GHB with milk (because it was the only mixer left in the house)
I'm not sure you know what bad taste is!
Absolute puke renchingly gross...:lol: :lol: (Strong stomachs only need apply)

sorry embracethevoid no more derailing...promise.
 
Let's throw some cayenne or habanero into the mix:

Curing With Cayenne---Dr. Richard SCHULZE

Sam Biser: Curing with Cayenne - The Untold Story
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Curing With Cayenne


"If you master only one herb in your life, master cayenne pepper. It is more powerful than any other."

- Dr. Richard SCHULZE, Medical Herbalist



Students always ask Dr. Schultz, "What are the ten most important herbs to have in the home?" He tells them, "At the top of the list is cayenne pepper, because it will make the other nine work better."



An absolute must read link! I am experimenting with spices and niacin. It does seem to work very well for shuttling drugs into the deepest reaches of your brain although as of yet I have not rigorously tested this in isolation.

So for the little dilemma regarding the taste of sublingual noopept - get rid of the taste by chewing one of these fuckers

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I'm thinking... microdose caapi + iboga bark + noopept. In the AM, chew a habanero and jump into a bucket of ice cold water. What could possibly go wrong? Hold my beer and watch this.
 
Yes you should be fine as far as I can tell. No problems mixing the two here; no active serotonin releasing action of noopept to my knowledge either.
 
Has anyone smoalked on noopept ? Been using it for about a week and gotta admit I love the stuff. From browsing around it does seem to alter various drugs, often potentiating them. Personally, even piracetam alters dmt experience for me(makes it more vivid/realistic). I'm a bit scared to launch with both of these circulating in my system.
 
I've been using noopept for a few weeks now and I also have to say its great . I haven't checked its potentiation with other things yet myself but I suspect it could be excellent.
 
embracethevoid said:
I'm thinking... microdose caapi + iboga bark + noopept. In the AM, chew a habanero and jump into a bucket of ice cold water. What could possibly go wrong? Hold my beer and watch this.
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hahaha, however jumping into an isolation tank filled with ice cold water is a superior option ime ;)

Just thought id chime in and add my appreciation for noopept. I have just started using it with a varied racetam stack (piracetam and oxiracetam) as well as l-theanine, l-tyrosine, picamilon, ginko and choline bitatrate (will be experimenting with alpha-gpc and ALCAR soon). Very effective, although I have found adding my current choline source is having a somewhat negative effects on my moods (perhaps dosage has been too high). I am definitely noticing very positive effects, although the lack of research has me a little cautious with dosage and I have only worked with 50mg max at this stage.

I would be very interested to find out how well it would synergize with DMT. Ime piracetam will definitely potentiate DMT. Although it is not a negative combination at all I personally get the feeling the D will only tolerate racetams combos rather than be particularly happy about it being in your system and sharing mindspace.

Sorry to derail this ibogaine topic. I found your experience report very interesting embracethevoid and your courageous nootropic experiment with ibogaine stacks is rather inspiring.
 
embracethevoid said:
the taste, oh GOD the taste. I used to gargle jurema brew and swish it around my mouth, I can even vaguely keep rue vomit plasma juice down and cactus snot is a valliant contender for my palate. But this? Oh god. I took a single sip from the cup thinking la la la, next thing I'm keeled over struggling with the force of a thousand horny spartans trying to stop my colon from exiting through my mouth. Just the faintest thought of it and I have to physically hold myself off of puking and breathe deep.
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once one has tasted the bitter healing waters of iboga root bark juice / tonic / mix -
ayahuasca is like sipping on some good belgian brew
 
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