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entheogenist said:
Has anyone seen this happen before: After I had my naphtha jars in the freezer overnight, there was alot of spice collected at the bottom, so I went ahead and filtered it early. I ended up with about half a gram. I washed it with ammonium hydroxide and put it in a vial. About half a minute later, the powder melted into a thick oil that I could not get out of the vial. I redissolved it with naphtha in a hot water bath, but when I put it back in the freezer no crystals fell out of the solution. It blew my mind when I looked at my vial to see my crystals had turned into mush.
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PLANT FAT AT THE BOTTOM
 
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BongWizard said:
Simply do a warm non polar pull before basing (multiple are advised for high fat materials like phalaris). Alternatively, you can do a double A/B.
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Or another way if you dont want to waste solvent. Let the acid phase cool to room temperature and the sediment to form, fats and oils ect will be on the top. Simply siphon out the aqueous solution with a 5mm tube leaving the top oil layer, and also the sediment on the bottom behind. Keep the solution from the middle.
 
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Hello everyone,
I'm relatively new and have just made a extraction out of phalaris arundinacea but after I took the crystals out of the freezer they started to melt so that's why I'm asking how I can recrystalize the dmt.
 
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Are you sure it is DMT to begin with? You could try redissolving in a small amount of solvent and putting back into the freezer, or if you wanted to go a step further maybe do a mini A/B and see if that helps it solidify. If you’re not 100% on whether it’s DMT it’s sort of hard to say whether it will crystallize. If you had any moisture in your solvent it may have frozen too, which can give the illusion of crystals.
 
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ChamJam said:
Hello everyone,
I'm relatively new and have just made a extraction out of phalaris arundinacea but after I took the crystals out of the freezer they started to melt so that's why I'm asking how I can recrystalize the dmt.
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There's no guarantee that a random sample of P. arundinacea will contain any DMT at all. TLC (thin layer chromatography) can be very helpful in clarifying what may be present in a phalaris extract.

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Phalaris growth and harvest conditions and alkaloid content To increase Phalaris alkaloid content, fertilize with ammonium sulfate (Parmar, 1974), and grow in partial shadow, 28% sunlight ( Festi & Samorini 1994). Cut and discard the first grow, and instead harvest the top half of the regrowth...
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I was excited by the low threshold dose for my 5-MeO-DMT citrate, but higher doses have been less impressive; 350 uL (about 8 mg 5-MeO-DMT) got mild bodily sensations, slight closed-eye geometry, and auditory hallucinations, but nothing beyond that. Though I guess that's not too different from...
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Hi all. Are there guidelines about the mixing of various NPS's? Specifically today I'm wondering about getting a wee bit of xylene into my naphtha. I'm doing a mini A/B where I pulled with xylene, backsalted, and want to base and switch to naphtha for a freeze precipitation. I can separate almost all of the NPS layer off, drain off most of the water from below and discard the little bit where the separation is too close to call. Or I can just remove most of the xylene but carry over a few drops that will wind up in the naphtha.
And, in general I guess I'm wondering about how all the popular solvent get along?
 
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There's no issue mixing them but you'll likely have issues freeze precipitating with xylene in the mix. Like you said separate the naphtha first (then freeze precipitate) if there's still some left in the jar that you can't pipette out then you can add xylene and mix it no worries. You can evap from there or more sustainably salt out. Iirc benzoic acid should salt out dmt with both xylene and naphtha. But I'd have to double check that.
 
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About the limonene used in Q21Q21's tek; do you use the same solvent across all pulls, or do you need new solvent each time? Also, how many vinegar pulls should I do to get the dmt out of the solvent? I've done 2 already but would I get a stronger product if i did a few more?
 
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notstupid said:
About the limonene used in Q21Q21's tek; do you use the same solvent across all pulls, or do you need new solvent each time? Also, how many vinegar pulls should I do to get the dmt out of the solvent? I've done 2 already but would I get a stronger product if i did a few more?
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New solvent can be used or the solvent that has been washed with vinegar, both will work
 
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notstupid said:
Ok that changes a lot, will it work for being used across 4-5 pulls? and does fresh solvent yield more?
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It doesn’t matter if you’re reusing the solvent. Here’s what’s happening: the limonene pulls the DMT from the basic solution. Then after separating it, when you add vinegar and water to the limonene, it converts the DMT into DMT acetate, which then dissolves into the water layer. This “salting out” process leaves the limonene clean, allowing it to be reused for additional extractions from the base solution almost infinitely.
 
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Varallo said:
It doesn’t matter if you’re reusing the solvent. Here’s what’s happening: the limonene pulls the DMT from the basic solution. Then after separating it, when you add vinegar and water to the limonene, it converts the DMT into DMT acetate, which then dissolves into the water layer. This “salting out” process leaves the limonene clean, allowing it to be reused for additional extractions from the base solution almost infinitely.
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Thank you, sorry if that was a dumb question
 
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How's this for a first JimJam extraction? I can't really tell the potency but from the guide it seems to be around 7mg per drop? At the same time though its a lot darker and browner than I expected, I didn't run it through a cotton ball since it seemed unnecessary, or maybe I screwed something else up somewhere along the line, should I be worried about the sediment?
 
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