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Im sorry I dont understand.. if you just want the pH of lye with pure water, yeah this can be calculated. But its not gonna be pure water, as soon as its mixed with mimosa (and the acid if its an a/b), that pH will change because part of the NaOH will be reacting to the acid, so it wont be the same as the original calculation of pure water.
But yes if youre extracting with DCM then you probably dont need higher pH than 11, since at that ph 99.5% of the dmt is freebased and DCM is a good solvent. But DCM will pull a lot of unwanted material too, how will you clean afterwards?
And what does reduced potency means? dmt is dmt is dmt, there is no dmt of reduced potency.So would you mind giving a link to the thread you mean so I can understand?
But yes if youre extracting with DCM then you probably dont need higher pH than 11, since at that ph 99.5% of the dmt is freebased and DCM is a good solvent. But DCM will pull a lot of unwanted material too, how will you clean afterwards?
And what does reduced potency means? dmt is dmt is dmt, there is no dmt of reduced potency.So would you mind giving a link to the thread you mean so I can understand?
Yep, I totally agree with you. You can't calculate pH's mimosa/water mixture.
Re-X with heptane shall be done afterwards.
Bad choice of words. The mixture extracted from the mimosa seems to be less potent when being extracted at higher pH.
Re-X with heptane shall be done afterwards.
Bad choice of words. The mixture extracted from the mimosa seems to be less potent when being extracted at higher pH.
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hmm, I will ask trickster about it.. I wonder how controlled this experiment was. Maybe self suggestion? Or maybe different density of crystals will affect the vaporization method if its not a very efficient one, etc.. There isnt any alkaloid in mimosa in that big quantity appart from dmt so it cant be some 'less effective alkaloid'.
IMO it makes no sense that higher pH will yield a weaker product, but can't say for sure unless we really get to the bottom of this particular experiiment.
Anyways, good luck with your xtraction shaolin
IMO it makes no sense that higher pH will yield a weaker product, but can't say for sure unless we really get to the bottom of this particular experiiment.
Anyways, good luck with your xtraction shaolin
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do a search on 'red naphtha', this seems to happen with some people. I think it has to do with suspended particles of bark that refuse to settle.
Best way to fix is to separate the pull as it is, and do an A/B in it (salt out with vinegar 3x, then add base to vinegar and re-extract)
Best way to fix is to separate the pull as it is, and do an A/B in it (salt out with vinegar 3x, then add base to vinegar and re-extract)
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Rolo92 said:
I am right in the middle of Phlux's mesc tek, and my D-limo is clear also, but evaps down to a tawny coloured crystal sludge. It's normal for it to be clear, but you'll only know if you grabbed the goodies after you evaporate.
Good luck
JBArk
To anyone who can help;
SWIM has just finished all the vinegar pulls doing the D-limo mescaline TEK and poured in into the evaporation dish. Is the vinegar supposed to be this clear?
Thanks for reading.
SWIM has just finished all the vinegar pulls doing the D-limo mescaline TEK and poured in into the evaporation dish. Is the vinegar supposed to be this clear?
Thanks for reading.
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Rolo92 said:
In phlux's it starts out in limo then is salted out with HCL. The soluttions containing the mescaline were both clear at all times, until the limo was saturated with impurities after 8+ pulls. You might want to post this in the cactus subforum to get more responses.
cheers,
JBArk
Hey sorry guys - This is a beginner question but I have been using the search function for the past 15 mins or so and can't find an answer. I am having a hard time pulling pure limonene off of the top of my MHRB mixture using the BLAB tek. A few drops of the dark MHRB always make their way into the limonene when I try to pull it. Is this acceptable? I am working with a syringe, but I also have a gravy separator. I would be using the separator but I'm not really sure how to go about it. I added approx 50ml of additional water to it already as advised in a different thread; it helped but still having trouble.
Are there any tips or tricks for getting a clean layer of limonene off the top?
EDIT - Ahh nevermind, wasn't looking hard enough evidently - Found what I was looking for. Thanks!
Are there any tips or tricks for getting a clean layer of limonene off the top?
EDIT - Ahh nevermind, wasn't looking hard enough evidently - Found what I was looking for. Thanks!
I keep getting Yellow wax, Green Wax, or Nothing at all on evaps, and on freezing I get Ice crystals, which sometimes dry to leave a bit of NaOH but no spice, not even a sniff. This happens even when I evap off most of the shell before the freeze. Now up to 20+ attempts, have tried all sorts of Acacia, including Obtusifolia and Longfolia - both leaf and bark, as well as polyrodifolia, and a couple of other Acacias (just for luck). I am using Mechanix caustic, and Diggers Shellite, and grind the material up to a fine powder. Yes the shell is nice and hot and I have been using a pH meter (broken now...). I am now following a version of Lextek, but I am doing a double acid base, after being shown this method by a mate who can cook spice. I get no pretty spice smell - EVER - and when I try smoking the wax stuff, it just shuts down the lungs - with no spice effect at all. When I try to filter the crystals, they always melt and dissappear. I have tried re-crystalising the wax - but I just get more wax. The wax also dissolves completely in alcohol, and evaps back to ..... Wax!. Left to sit, it never dries (weeks...) When I do dry out the jar after a freeze , sometimes I get a bit of white powder that seems to be just NaOH. I have tried filtering the shell, and doing Na Carbonate washes, and being really pedantic to get the water out before freezing - but Nada - no spice. It is really frustrating as having had a taste of the real spice (via mate), I want to go back there again. If I hadn't tried it, I would now believe that this whole thing is an internet hoax, but instead, I am just getting annoyed and wasting a lot of money making very small ammounts of water ice. I suspected nasties in my solvents etc - but having read the forums here - I note others seem to be suceeding with the same stuff I am using. Don't know how to get MHRB in Melbourne, don't think it is safe to order online in Oz, and havent got a lot of $$$$ to throw around. Am I cursed by the spice gods??? Can anyone offer a clue - coz I don't seem to have one - neither does my mate who lives interstate, and gets a different Acacia to the ones I have access to.
I am using Diggers Shellite, it's a different brand to what works for mate, but no other type available at shops near me and I am pretty sure others on the nexus have reported sucess with this solvent. I am starting to get very sus of the other 2% in my 98% pure NaOH. I am thinking of exploring other solvents, but not sure which one to try first - they all seem harder to work with than shellite for freeze precep (according to reports).
Thanks everyone for the advice, I appreciate it, and will post the answer to this problem when I figure it out.
(To save the next poor shmuck from 21+ failed attempts)
Emulsifier in the 2% would make sense, as when my mate tried to extract using my caustic and some plant material that he knew was good, the layers did not separate like normal. I haven't been having trouble getting layers to separate myself. I will be trying a few other solvents aside from shellite, as I am so sick of spice-less jars coming out of the freezer!!! I am also now trying to make my own NaOH - by electrolysis - to make sure it is relatively pure of nasty contaminants.
Spice - one taste and the world never quite seems the same again!
(To save the next poor shmuck from 21+ failed attempts)
Emulsifier in the 2% would make sense, as when my mate tried to extract using my caustic and some plant material that he knew was good, the layers did not separate like normal. I haven't been having trouble getting layers to separate myself. I will be trying a few other solvents aside from shellite, as I am so sick of spice-less jars coming out of the freezer!!! I am also now trying to make my own NaOH - by electrolysis - to make sure it is relatively pure of nasty contaminants.
Spice - one taste and the world never quite seems the same again!
Hello, a man in my imagination will begin an extraction within the next few days following Q21Q21's second tek. He was the one who was going to rush this for new years but circumstances changed and he will be doing it now instead. He was going to perform a side-by-side test with the same bark to test for n-oxide but circumstances may be against this happening, unless he can figure out an easy way to substitute naptha in the non-polar wash of the tek to pull out n-oxide dmt. He will keep his updates here if that's cool.
Re making NaOH via electrolysis - yeah, not so keen to do it either, read about the chlorine gas it evolves and it seems a lot of hassle , likely to contain impurities. Very open to other ideas / suggestions - SWIM checked online, however it seems getting pure NaOH is becoming difficult, Haven't been able to find pure NaOH on the shelf at local shops, many online local places either don't sell it or don't ship, also SWIM doesn't want to start ordering chemicals online from overseas...;-} SWIM will be trying the local soap making supply shop soon, and thinks making home made soap might be fun, too!
Good news is SWIM now has some other solvents, and will be giving some other teks a go, including the D limonlene organic and Toluene jungle spice.
SWIM also intends to double check the species identification, and maybe explore another species, such as Desmodium.
SWIM has had so much practice now, he is proficient in the chem, and so less certain that the organic material is good.
We shall not be defeated.......!!!!
Good news is SWIM now has some other solvents, and will be giving some other teks a go, including the D limonlene organic and Toluene jungle spice.
SWIM also intends to double check the species identification, and maybe explore another species, such as Desmodium.
SWIM has had so much practice now, he is proficient in the chem, and so less certain that the organic material is good.
We shall not be defeated.......!!!!
