official extraction help thread

[psilocybin]

Any questions or problems you may run into during an extraction can be asked to get other members input in this thread.

 

[TravisH997]

I'm currently doing my first DMT extraction right now.

I'm using this TEK: DMT extraction...rootbark to smokeable in roughly 3-4 hours...no grinding, powdering, freezing, etc. - The Psychedelic Experience - Shroomery Message Board

I didn't read over it well enough and completely forgot to let the Mimosa Hostilis soak in the water+NaOH solution for a couple hours before adding Naphtha. I'm following the advice to let it soak for three days for the first yield, will there be any problems in the extraction having missed the stage of letting it soak?

I'm using two pots as I don't have a big enough one for both, but one is sludgy and sort of similar to brownie mix while the other is pretty much a complete liquid. I'm using pre-powdered as the site I got it from states their powder as being 30% more potent due to removing "filler fibers", will this be fine?

 

[gammagore]

Travis dude, the lazyman tek is crap, you should have browsed around the nexus before you started the extraction.

Back to the extraction, do you not have access to any HDPE gallon/litre milk jugs? those work much better than pots, the problem you gonna have with pots is trying to separate the naptha off from the bark solution. I imagine that you will have alot of surface area for the naptha to cover, making it a very thin layer of naptha, wereas with HDPE jug there is a smaller surface area near to the neck(this is where the naptha would sit. Also somthing else to consider is what material are these pots made of that you are using?

Another thing you say is that the one of the pots is like a brownie mixure? it should be black, like soy sauce black, not brown. If its still brown you need to add more base.

Dont throw anything away till you have your final yield.

Good luck!

 

[bait_]

Hello all,

Using a variation of Noman's tek found STB tek and pictorial - UPDATED - The Psychedelic Experience - Shroomery Message Board

I have never had problems with it before but a recent attempt has left the naptha completely colorless after days of sitting.

I am inquiring as to possible reasons for this. Even if there was absolutely 0 spice in it wouldn't some of the fats and oils be pulled from the bark creating the color change?

Please help me out. This is for someone I am teaching how to do (so right now I am looking like a fool... at least in my eyes)

 

[TheTripDoctor]

Using STB tek, how does SWIM properly dispose of a jar full of water, lye and naphtha safely?

 

[endlessness]

Bait, not picking up color doesnt necessarily mean bad. I think it might not be saturated enough if you used that tek's naphtha amount. Check the FAQ for numbers on pre-evaporation and ideal pull size. If nothing crashes out with freeze better evap more and stick back in the freezer.

By the way, did you do an evap test on this solvent?

TheTripDoctor: FAQ what to do with the waste

 

[bait_]

The naphtha we are using is a brand called sunnyside (found at a menards) and am performing the evap test now but I think it will pass.

I'll evap down and see if anything happens.

Thanks again

 

[GratefulDad]

Sunnyside Naphtha is decent stuff. More color just means you got more tannins/fats/oils, and it usually happens with heat.

 

[DiMiTriX]

gamma,that pic remembers to swim of plastic precipitation that gives flat cristal circle stuff like mescaline

 

[TheTripDoctor]

Using this procedure, SWIM was wondering if all of the components will fit into a 1 quart mason jar?

1. Water 600ml
2. NaOH 75g
3. Powdered Root Bark 75g
4. Let sit for 3 hours
5. 113ml Naptha
6. Mix for 10 minutes, let separate three times
7. Draw
8. Freeze Precip.
9. Collect

Also after drawing and putting the solvent in the freezer, could he/she go straight back to step 5 with the basified solution and repeat or does there need to be a wait time?

 

[bait_]

yessir it will all fit in a qt jar

i like to space my pulls apart (a day) but i'm sure it doesn't need that much wait time.

 

[TheTripDoctor]

When swim added the powdered MHBR to the basic solution, clumps formed and it wouldn't sink, so swim stirred until he/she could get most of the clumps to mix with the solution but still some remained. Also a small layer of bubbles formed at the top. Will the clumps break up and are the bubbles (emulsions?) normal?

 

[gammagore]

^^^ yes its normal if there is not enough base. Ive never had that problem of it forming clumps though. Is it wet enough? Either way you need to add more base solution, add till there is no emulsion and its black black.

 

[TheTripDoctor]

The clumps are gone. Swim stirred and prodded them until they broke up. Swim put a vibrating controller against the jar for 15 minutes or so but there is still a small ring of bubbles along the top. What proportion of naoh to water, 1:8? Also will this affect the yield further down the road?

 

[gammagore]

Ive never really weighed it when adding more base to get rid of emulsion. Just make a strong solution of say 100-200ml or so, add some, mix it around and add more if needed.

And no it wont destroy the yield in any way, tis a sturdy molecule we are working with here

Also you say you only using 1 pull of naptha 113ml. Thats way too much naptha to use for 1 pull, member are using like .4ml/gram bark. Id prolly use like say 40ml or so, add it to the jug, mix around, let separate, mix some more let separate, pull. The add the next 40ml naptha and repeat. Once collected the 2nd and 3rd pull add to first and freeze(evap a bit if needed). Collect the goodies after a day or two(carefull you dont fall over when you see the snowglobe) Then go to step 5.

 

[TheTripDoctor]

Thanks, I'll relay that to swim. Should he swirl after adding more? That may have been what got him in trouble the first time.

Ya, he told me he's using this tek (

https://imgur.com/gqIkj

) and scaled it down for 75g mhbr.
So you're saying he should do the first pull, put in jar, the next couple, put in same jar then freeze?

 

[gammagore]

You can add the three pulls together and freeze or freeze each pull on its own. Not much difference either way I suppose.

 

[TheTripDoctor]

Swim added 150ml water and 20g noah to the mix. there are still a couple bubbles but a lot less than before. It looks almost exactly like number 4 in this picture

https://imgur.com/gqIkj

but higher up in the jar. It worked for the guy who took the pictures, so swim's not going to worry about it and hope for the best.

After the naphtha was added and mixed, it separated ok but was completely clear. It should be yellowish right?

Edit: swim shook harder and is freezing now. Half an hour in the crystals started forming. Thanks for all the help guys! Swim appreciates it.

 

[Slushie7]

I performed an STB extraction about three months ago; did one small pull and one large pull, and then managed to forget about the jar. The jar contains water, lye, mimosa bark, and a small amount of leftover naphtha I hadn't been able to fully pull out. The jar has been sitting under a bed for roughly three months, sealed and away from sunlight.

Would it still be safe to add fresh naphtha to the jar and perform another pull or two? My biggest fear is that the lye could have broken down into something (or broken down something in the bark) in the months it's been sitting there, rendering it dangerous, but I don't know enough chemistry to know with any certainty.

Thank you for any information you can shed .

 

[Noman]

Go for it.
At worst the lye will have broken down a bunch of plant crap in the bark that will be a pain to clean out, but it's worth a shot.

 

[gammagore]

After the naphtha was added and mixed, it separated ok but was completely clear. It should be yellowish right?

Not always, yellow means some oils and fats have been pulled too. As lond as you did the 3 cycles pf mixing and separating its good to pull.