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hello guys, my friend wants to do lazyman's STB tek and asking about if he could freeze precipitate instead of evaporating the naphtha. Because he read that he needs to do about 4-5 pulls and 400ml solvent per pull. That's too much to waste. What if he freeze precipitate and then collect the solvent to further use? then he wants to re-x to grow crystals and purify it. Is that okay? some advice?
 
sorry i did not say that swim is going to extract from 500g mhrb. that's why 400ml is needed for each pull. or 100ml is enough? if there is the clouding effect then the naptha is saturated with spice, right?
SWIM thought that jars should be used instead of a large mixing bowl because the solvent is evaporating very fast and its easier to mix the solvent and the bark mush by tilting.
 
I haven't used the lazyman tek, but after reading it just now, it doesn't look like a very safe tek, especially for beginners. Also a 500g extraction is pretty hardcore if you're just getting started. It leaves a lot of room for error.

I'd recommend doing several 100g extractions until you get it down. Then move up to 250g extractions. I hope this doesn't sound arrogant but I've been extracting for awhile and I'm sure a 500g extraction would be a pain in the ass even for me.

This guide is what I got started with and works excellent. You can do an extraction in just a few hours excluding the freeze precip.

Either way, I hope this helps and be safe whichever route you choose to go.

And to answer your questions, if you do decide to go the lazyman tek route w/ 500g you might want to stick to the tek and use 400ml. With that amount of bark, it should saturate it pretty good. And you are correct that if there is a good clouding effect, it should be saturated.

If it doesn't precip anything in the freezer, then you might need to evaporate it down some and stick it back in there.

Remember to keep it in the freezer at least 12 hours but sometimes 24 is needed. Also make sure the freezer is on the coldest setting.

Once again, I hope this helps and Welcome to the Nexus. :)
 
thank you very much it was a very useful information. did only 1 extraction yet (q21q21 tek 2). If swim wants to use this guide can he use glass jars instead of the plastic kettle? And is it okay to just shred the bark to 0,5" pieces then just destroy the cells with the NAOH+water (lazyman's tek)? (because the MHRB is only availabe in whole part and a household blender is not the best for it)
sorry for the noob questions but swim wants to find the perfect method for extracting a lot of spice to send his friends to the cosmos:)
 
Evaporating vinegar and d-limonene. :roll:
My vinegar has a thin layer of limonene on top, is that safe? Does evaporating limonene yeild any spice? and if it does then why use vinegar to separate dmt from it? :shock:
Edit: Forget this post. I'll evap and see what happens.
2nd Edit: Please don't consume d limonene this way as it might have serious side-effects.
 
hey all, I have a emulsion problem :oops:


i have 2 jars with very clear brown naphtha. i did a quick search and saw this.
1. Add more lye water
2. Put jar inside another bowl to prevent catastrophic failure, then put on top of a sub/large speaker and add some bass heavy tunes.
3. Bowl of hot water that you put the jar in to increase the temp of the liquid/emulsions.
4. Wait a few days, and sometimes emulsions will clear by themselves.

Those 4 usually can kill any emulsions i have came across, you may have to try all four of them though if its a real nasty emulation.

they have been sitting for a almost 2 days now, i tried putting a space heater on them as well as adding a spoonful of lye into 20ml water and poured 10ml of that into each jar. still brown.

going to give them 2 more days before i just extract as is and do sodium carb washes. i try to avoid washes because i can never fully get all the sodium carb out so it freezes in with some crystals and i always lose small amounts.


any general advice would be appreciated.
 
Hi everyone! First post!
I just wanted to say that this site is fantastic! Really looking forward to immersing myself.

My friend Bob-Jane T-Mart just pulled an allnighter and finished his first extraction tek! He told me he used the dmt handbook (a/b) and used acacia acuminata bark. About 2 Kg's. He finished it about 5 hours ago but left the leftover whatever you call it after syphoning it 3 times he did not get much Shellite out (golden yellow clear liquid) compared to what the tek had.
He came back to it later and found that more shellite (much more then before) has separated.

The yellow shellite is sitting in the frezer; should he separate the extra shellite now separated or should bob jane just leave it? If so should Bob Jane T-mart disturb the existing freeze precipitate or just put it in another bowl.

Thanks!
 
endlessness said:
no need to wait a few days, add more salt, more lye, and tap on the container/vibrate, and it should clear immediately


did not even budge it.


this is what i did, with the 2 jars giving me grief, i took out as much naphtha as i could and put it in the garage to let it evap, i checked on them 15 minutes later, a solid half inch evaporated and the naphtha was golden yellow :!:

with all the lye at the bottom, i poured them back into the original jars. they immediately got cloudy and back to brown color.

i went to work at that point, 7 hours later i came home and both are yellow! i gently relocated them to the kitchen and one got cloudy again. so sensitive =\ wonder why the other jar stayed perfectly clear.

never the less i am thrilled.
 
Hello! someone pls help me!
SWIM is trying to recrystallize his spice but has a problem. He dissolved his spice in warm naphtha and then put it in the fridge for 2 hours, then he put the spice/naphtha containing shotglass to slowly evaporate.he put tinfoil on the top with some holes on it.
there are already some crystals but not that much as it needs to be. What should swim do? Just wait some days until all of the naphtha slowly evaporate and all of the crystals will be there?? or do i have to put it back in the freezer?? thanks for the help
I was looking for the answer but i can't decide which is correct and how to do it.
 
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