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Ongoing Salvia divinorum Oral Trial — Salvine Tek

JosBoaz

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Purpose of This Thread
This thread will document experiences with different dosages using the Salvine Tek, developed by @stuartroelke

The primary purpose is to record the subjective effects, intensity, duration, and other relevant observations associated with different dosages, creating a consistent and centralized record of my experiences over time.

This thread serves two functions:
  1. Personal documentation — providing a digital, centralized location for my logs and observations.
  2. Data sharing — making the observations accessible as additional data points that may be useful to the developer of the Salvine Tek when evaluating and refining the method.
Other members are welcome to contribute their own reports to this thread if they are inclined to do so. Additional reports from different people may help provide a broader picture of how the Salvine Tek performs across different individuals and dosages.

Source:
Haphazard Oral Administration Thread (Salvine Tek)

Source:
Proton Drive PDF - Salvine Tek Crude
 
Date: 30 August 2026
Salvia dose: 500 mg (0.5 g) Salvia divinorum leaf powder
Route: Oral
Method: Salvine Tek V02.00
Observation period: ~4 hours

Preparation

  • Salvia divinorum leaves were powdered using a blender.

Administration

  1. 1 × 1,200 mg lecithin
  2. 30-minute wait
  3. 1 × 1,200 mg lecithin
  4. 30-minute wait
  5. 500 mg Salvia divinorum leaf powder + 200mL water
  6. Followed by 500 mL water
Total lecithin: 2,400 mg
Total Salvia powder: 500 mg
Total water: 700 mL

No ethanol, EVOO, or bile salts were used.

Effects

  • No strong or sustained psychedelic experience.
  • Effects appeared intermittently in waves; a pronounced energy sensation, distinct from the sensation produced by harmala, was felt approximately 2–3 times during the 4-hour period, each lasting about 5–10 seconds.
  • The primary noticeable effect was a pronounced energetic/body sensation.
  • The sensation was clearly noticeable but relatively short-lived and repeatedly appeared and faded.
  • No significant visual effects were noticed.
  • No major alteration of consciousness was observed.
  • Overall intensity remained extremely weak.

Assessment

The 500 mg dose produced detectable but weak psychoactive effects. The intermittent waves of pronounced energetic sensation indicate that the preparation was active, although it did not produce a sustained psychedelic state.

Subjective intensity: extremely weak
Primary effect: Transient waves of pronounced energetic sensation
Visual effects: None
Overall: Active but substantially below a medium experience
 
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plain salvia leaf ... isnt going to have much actives in it..but there are other salvia species that are quite strong..i use to get it from a botanical farm in canada..for plain leaf it was amazingly strong! they were very proud of their product..
 
Excited to see someone taking this seriously! I can’t thank you enough for your precision and dedication despite the complexities.

There have been mixed results from others, including one difficult experience at an unmeasured dose (they had approximated by counting leaves). Additionally, about 50% of people have attempted Salvine Tek through methods never recommended in the document; I clearly need to make V02.01 clearer and less meandering. My personal anecdote about flan caused numerous people to try Salvine using a small quantity of cooked eggs as the phospholipid source, which—in addition to digesting slowly—would be severely lacking in phosphatidylcholine (I recently learned that each egg yolk might provide ~100-150mg). This is another reason why I spent more time investigating purified phospholipids. My flan experience was only perceptible enough to guide me, and I will likely remove it from future documentation as a means of prioritizing ideal administration methods.

500mg is an interesting dose—I only realized how inconsistent it can be within the last few months. The newest version of my dosage chart keeps pushing toward 1g being an easily perceptible threshold. I'm also second-guessing what to recommend as a stronger dose (currently fluxuating between 2g-4g). I find myself redoing a lot of tests lately. Perhaps I had been consuming something that was unknowingly potentiating the experience, or my homegrown leaf is exremely inconsistent. I tend to blend ~20g at a time to homogenize material (following FIFO with supply).

If you fail to feel anything at 1g then we may have our first well-documented problem. My hypotheses would be related to water intake, digestion, quality of leaf, and/or source of phospholipids (I've primarily been using soy-based). Your comment about "feeling it in waves" makes me wonder if you were drinking water prior to those more perceptible moments—hydration can impact the strength for me (another necessary point to emphasize in V02.01). It's also important to note that there might actually be noticeable tolerance with Salvine (anecdotal), so it would be a good idea to wait a day or two between tests.

plain salvia leaf ... isnt going to have much actives in it..but there are other salvia species that are quite strong..i use to get it from a botanical farm in canada..for plain leaf it was amazingly strong! they were very proud of their product..

The leaf to gram ratio can be ~10:1 for Salvia divinorum, meaning the the quantity of plain leaf salvia being used is large (20-40 leaves for a medium to strong dose). Documented oral use is rare in Mazatec history, but I have read of shamans using ~50-100 leaves for slurries that are meant to be swallowed. Throw a bioavailability enhancer in there... you might start to see my point. A poor estimate is that 1g of Salvia divinorum leaf powder could contain ≈ 1-4mg of salvinorin A. Perhaps a decent analogy is that 20 leaves is like smoking a bowl of 20x, the key difference being distribution of effect over 1-3 hours (comparable to DMT vs. pharmahuasca).

There are some speculative considerations about enzymatic activity, as enterohepatic circulation—facilitated by phosphatidlycholine—may re-acetylate salvinorin B (based on what @Volshebnik shared about fermentation acetylating compounds in Panax quinquefolius). This would mean that loss could be significantly reduced compared to what we are used to with typical pharmaceuticals. I'm not sure it would be possible to prove this outside of a complicated clinical trial, though.
 
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@JosBoaz I'm gonna watch this thread super excited to hear more about Salvine experiments. thanks for sharing. in a year i'll have plant material. meet you here then

@1Starway7 Although less is much better than too much with Salvia. I'm getting recognita & glutinosa (weaker than divinorum)

@stuartroelke with phospholipid do you think a non toxic extraction could be added to the Tek?

Peace and love
 
@stuartroelke with phospholipid do you think a non toxic extraction could be added to the Tek?
It’s possible to extract potent, easy-to-scrape resin by leaving powder in an excess of ~99% methanol for 14 days and then evaporating. However, the capsule version—once proven to be viable—will likely require a fast extraction with chilled acetone followed by decanting and nonpolar solvent defatting. That could introduce impurities if done poorly (or when using cheap naptha products without a distillation step).
 
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Date: 31 August 2026

Salvia dose: 1,000 mg (1.0 g)
Salvia divinorum leaf powder

Route: Oral

Method:
Salvine Tek V02.00

Observation period: ~4 hours



Preparation
Salvia divinorum leaves were powdered using a blender. Before the first experiment, I only placed approximately 4 g of dried Salvia divinorum leaves into the blender. This was based on the author's recommendation that powdered salvinorin A may degrade more quickly and that it may therefore be preferable to either store the powder in a freezer or prepare it on demand:

“Powdered Salvinorin A may degrade faster. It’s probably best to store salvia powder in the freezer or make it on demand.”
However, I will pivot to a different preparation method for future experiments. Rather than blending only a small quantity immediately before use, I will blend a larger quantity at once in order to produce a more homogenized material in terms of potency.

The author describes this approach as follows:

“Blending a larger quantity creates a more homogenized material in terms of potency. I tend to blend ~20g at a time to homogenize material.”
Accordingly, future batches will be prepared by blending approximately 20 g at a time, with the resulting powdered material stored for subsequent experiments.


Administration

The administration was initially attempted by mixing the 1,000 mg of Salvia divinorum leaf powder with 200 mL of water.
However, this was unsuccessful because the powdered plant material remained buoyant and did not mix effectively with the water.
As a result, the plant material had to be filtered from the water, and I ultimately reverted to the administration technique used during the previous experiment.

  1. 1 × 1,200 mg lecithin
  2. 30-minute wait
  3. 1 × 1,200 mg lecithin
  4. 30-minute wait
  5. 1000 mg Salvia divinorum leaf powder + 200mL water
  6. Followed by 500 mL water
Total lecithin: 2,400 mg
Total Salvia powder: 1000 mg
Total water: 700 mL

No ethanol, EVOO, or bile salts were used.


Effects

The effects of the 1,000 mg dose were more pronounced than those observed during the previous 500 mg experiment on 30 August 2026. After approximately 1.5 hours following ingestion, longer-lasting periods of pronounced energetic sensations became noticeable.
Compared with the previous 500 mg experiment, the energetic sensations were:
  • More pronounced
  • Present for longer periods
  • More noticeable after approximately the 1.5-hour mark
The effects nevertheless remained primarily characterized by energetic/body sensations, rather than a strong or sustained psychedelic experience. I periodically closed my eyes during the observation period to assess whether closed-eye visuals (CEVs) were present. No CEVs were observed.


Comparison With Previous Experiment

The previous experiment was conducted on 30 August 2026 using 500 mg of Salvia divinorum leaf powder. During that experiment, the primary effect consisted of intermittent waves of pronounced energetic sensation, occurring approximately 2–3 times over the observation period and lasting roughly 5–10 seconds each. The 1,000 mg experiment produced more pronounced effects, particularly in terms of the duration and persistence of the energetic sensations.


Administration Observations

During the previous 500 mg experiment, the Salvia divinorum powder was placed directly into the mouth, followed by a large sip of water.
For the 1,000 mg experiment, I attempted to suspend the powder in 200 mL of water before administration. This proved impractical because the plant material floated rather than remaining dispersed in the water. Consequently, the powder had to be filtered from the water, after which I used the previous administration technique. Because the plant material became wet during this process, this suggested a possible modification for a future experiment.


Possible Modification for Future Experiment

A possible modification would be to add only a very small amount of water—perhaps a few drops—to the powdered plant material, just enough to cause the material to adhere together. The intention would be to form the powder into a small “blob” rather than attempting to suspend it in a larger volume of water. The blob could then be placed into the mouth with a spoon, positioned toward the back of the tongue, followed by a large sip of water. This would effectively retain the administration method from the previous experiment while potentially making the plant material easier to handle and swallow.


Interval Between Experiments

This was the second Salvine experiment, conducted only 1 day after the previous experiment on 30 August 2026.
The developer of the Salvine Tek advised me to wait at least 3 days between uses. Despite this recommendation, I was considering taking 2,000 mg today, again only 1 day after the previous intake, and subsequently waiting 3 days before another 2,000 mg experiment. Following that, I was considering increasing the interval to approximately 7 days before the next experiment.


Assessment

The 1,000 mg dose produced more pronounced effects than the previous 500 mg dose.
The most notable difference was the appearance of longer periods of pronounced energetic sensation, which became particularly noticeable approximately 1.5 hours after ingestion. The experiment therefore suggests an increase in observable effects relative to the 500 mg trial, although the experience remained primarily characterized by energetic/body sensations rather than a strong sustained psychedelic state.
 
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It could be interesting to try making a tea from the leaves. In the past, I had some success doing that and slowly sipping the tea for buccal absorption. It was not strong at all, but that probably was due to low absorption. The tea tasted kind of good with some honey.
 
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