Maybe I should do one more pull with naphtha to evaporate and see what happens
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I don’t want to evaporate away my limo because I will just reuse it for this strain but now I’m curious as to what’s still in it.
So as is this is actually 370ish mg. I have not cleaned it up yet just weighed a glass container and then transferred and reweighed the dish after.
Obviously I don’t really think I’m getting over .3% active tryptamines from this random aquatica strain. Still just a little tiny dab burnt off a pin into the air smells just like DMT so I can imagine 100 mg of stuff being in there.
I was going to dissolve in in iso and decant filter it at least but I don’t know how soluble 5-MeO-DMT is in iso…assuming it’s even in this extract.
Does gramine smell like DMT when vaped? Sooner or later I will get stuff for TLC. Maybe by winter.
Obviously I don’t really think I’m getting over .3% active tryptamines from this random aquatica strain. Still just a little tiny dab burnt off a pin into the air smells just like DMT so I can imagine 100 mg of stuff being in there.
I was going to dissolve in in iso and decant filter it at least but I don’t know how soluble 5-MeO-DMT is in iso…assuming it’s even in this extract.
Does gramine smell like DMT when vaped? Sooner or later I will get stuff for TLC. Maybe by winter.
Jamie some of the latest studies have suggest that gramine is not toxic . ? ? that it was high levels of 5meo making cows stagger ?
Also the grass breeding program in tunisa has straines of grasses with all 5meo and strains with only nnDMT with no gramine in them .
These grow true from seed not just clones .
I bet you already new that info .
Your exspirments are cool
Also the grass breeding program in tunisa has straines of grasses with all 5meo and strains with only nnDMT with no gramine in them .
These grow true from seed not just clones .
I bet you already new that info .
Your exspirments are cool
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bezevo I already have many plants from the tanit strain, and dry material to explore next.
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Because wild Phalaris strains aren't standardized, alkaloid profiles can swing dramatically. Working with unknown wild material makes accurate dosing tricky, mostly due to massive variations in 5-MeO-DMT concentration.
Acute Overdose Risk vs. Grazing Toxicosis
A 70 kg sheep eats ~2.1 kg of dry grass daily. In a medium-to-high alkaloid P. aquatica strain (assuming ~0.2% 5-MeO-DMT), that daily biomass contains 4.2 grams of pure 5-MeO-DMT.
A Note on Gramine
You cannot distinguish alkaloids like gramine and 5-MeO-DMT by smell, color, or appearance.
Gramine's acute toxicity at low milligram doses (e.g., in a typical 20 mg extract sample) is generally low, and its risks are sometimes exaggerated in online discussions. However, it remains an unwanted plant toxin that offers zero recreational value. While a few milligrams won't suddenly kill you, there is no reason to ingest it, and inhaling crude plant extracts carrying unpredictable alkaloid mixes is poor practice. Aim for strains with low gramine profiles whenever possible.
Breeding Line Status
In our labs we work on high DMT / 5-MeO-DMT P. aquatica strains for psychedelic use but it will not be broadly accessible until at least Summer 2027.
Field Testing Update (P. arundinacea)
We evaluated wild P. arundinacea samples across North America, Scandinavia, Central, and Eastern Europe. Wild profiles showed surprising homogeneity:
For anyone analyzing or working with these plants, P. aquatica remains the primary species of focus, though its high 5-MeO-DMT concentrations require extreme caution regarding potency and dose calculation.
Acute Overdose Risk vs. Grazing Toxicosis
A 70 kg sheep eats ~2.1 kg of dry grass daily. In a medium-to-high alkaloid P. aquatica strain (assuming ~0.2% 5-MeO-DMT), that daily biomass contains 4.2 grams of pure 5-MeO-DMT.
- An active smoked dose of 5-MeO-DMT is roughly 5–15 milligrams.
- The daily sheep equivalent contains enough active alkaloid to cause death in dozens of people.
A Note on Gramine
You cannot distinguish alkaloids like gramine and 5-MeO-DMT by smell, color, or appearance.
Gramine's acute toxicity at low milligram doses (e.g., in a typical 20 mg extract sample) is generally low, and its risks are sometimes exaggerated in online discussions. However, it remains an unwanted plant toxin that offers zero recreational value. While a few milligrams won't suddenly kill you, there is no reason to ingest it, and inhaling crude plant extracts carrying unpredictable alkaloid mixes is poor practice. Aim for strains with low gramine profiles whenever possible.
Breeding Line Status
In our labs we work on high DMT / 5-MeO-DMT P. aquatica strains for psychedelic use but it will not be broadly accessible until at least Summer 2027.
Field Testing Update (P. arundinacea)
We evaluated wild P. arundinacea samples across North America, Scandinavia, Central, and Eastern Europe. Wild profiles showed surprising homogeneity:
- ~90% present 5-MeO-NMT as the primary alkaloid.
- ~5% present NMT as the primary alkaloid.
- ~5% present gramine as the primary alkaloid.
- Trace levels only for DMT and 5-MeO-DMT.
For anyone analyzing or working with these plants, P. aquatica remains the primary species of focus, though its high 5-MeO-DMT concentrations require extreme caution regarding potency and dose calculation.
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I vaped some tiny amount yesterday. Too little to weigh so under 5 mg anyway. It’s definitely active with typical threshold tryptamine effects..including euphoria and yawning. It feels “psychedelic” anyway.
Not worried about gramine or hordenine etc because the extraction should have minimized the presence of those alkaloids anyway.
Not worried about gramine or hordenine etc because the extraction should have minimized the presence of those alkaloids anyway.
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