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Possible death of forum member from consuming Pachycereus Pringlei cactus

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The Pachycereus Pringlei has been a mystery for quite some time. Alexander Shulgin knew this cactus to be psychedelic but he could not identify any known psychoactive compounds in the cactus. His best hypothesis was that there was an isoquinoline compound in the cactus that was acting as an MAOI and was activating an unidentified phenethylamine compound in the cactus which resulted in a psychedelic effect.
During Shulgin's experience with this cactus, some of the people who consumed the cactus with him got horribly sick from it.
It has been debated online whether the combination of MAOI compounds is safe with the consumption of cacti due to the presence of Tyramine and other compounds that may be harmful when ingested with an MAOI.

There was a forum member named lemmy who, in 2019, took an interest in the Pachycereus Pringlei cactus. His account dates back to 2008 but he abruptly stopped posting altogether in 2019 after he planned to consume the cactus. He said he was going to try it and then he was going to come back to share his trip report, but he never returned.
A reasonable conclusion would be that this cactus may have killed him.

The consumption of Pringlei is rare and not well-documented or studied. The very few trip reports seem to have dysphoric effects. I would not recommend anyone attempts a trip with this cactus
or any cactus that has not been well-documented or studied.

Lemmy, if you're reading this and still alive, please make a post so we can know what happened.


Link to the original thread with lemmy's last post: Pachycereus pringlei - Experience reports - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
 
"I've got a business to run, 7 days a week and a family to raise."

If true, this is an incredibly sad outcome. He also mentioned moving soon and seeming unsure of where life was going to take him, I think it's entirely possible that life simply caught up with him and he didn't have the time or means to post here. However, with something as mysterious and seemingly dangerous as Pringlei I don't think death is out of the question at all.

I don't have any input of substance whatsoever, but thank you for sharing this story. Hopefully it leads to a less tragic conclusion than it seems.
 
wow ! that's messed up if he died .. in the past i did they SAFTY ! OVER KILL REASURCH !

Well for obvious reasons .


BEZ
 
Pandora said:
Sometimes people leave the Nexus suddenly for reasons known only to them, never to return. Of course I hope he's okay but I would also point out that correlation is not causation.
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Yeah definitely not confirmed but I find it odd that he specifically planned on sharing his trip report and that's the point when he stopped posting.
Either way, I hope this serves as an important lesson for everyone that experimenting with human consumption of understudied plants can be extremely dangerous.
 
Just thought it would be relevant for me to state here that I have ceased experimentation with phalaris species except for brachystachys, which has been the only reasonably active species which has not given me life threatening side effects. İf I don't post, it's not because I died. I am healthy and happy and wish the same for everyone. 🙏🌈
 
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