Same experience over and over. Why?

[fragariaananassa]

Hello fellow travellers!

I've just recently (the past half year) introduced my friend to psychedelics/drugs; mostly just mushrooms, MDMA and DMT. He has somewhat peculiar reactions to all of them, and I know for a fact that there's nothing strange about the drugs themselves, as I (and many others) have tried the same batches. I'm not the most experienced tripper myself, but I've done my fair share and heard quite a lot of my friends' stories as well.

With this guy however, the trips are quite different: not a lot of hallucinations with shrooms/DMT, no mysticism whatsoever. He says that he reaches this nothingness, zen-place, where he is at peace with himself and everything (and that's how he is sober, as well). He wonders why there's no fireworks, so to say. When he smoked DMT, we loaded up 50-60mg in a GVG. He wonders why he comes to this zen-place every single time he trips, on everything he's tripping on; have you guys had the same linearity in your experiences?

 

[Pandora]

Hello fragariaananassa,

Welcome to the Nexus. Not sure what to make of your friend, as I and many others, find N,N, DMT to be the epitome of novelty itself. Which is one reason I and some others have done it so many times, . It's novelty and unpredictability increase the appeal to some of us.

The only time I've encountered someone like your friend, it was a guy who readily confessed his body was saturated with cocaine and MDMA, both drugs that ask a lot of our dopamine systems. Beyond that, I just do not know. Unless it was a matter of technique, but it sure sounds like you know what's up. 50-60 mgs should destroy him using the GVG if he makes the first hit the biggest and holds it as long as comfortably possible, as well as making sure he gets his full dose into himself in under 90 seconds flat. Please keep us posted if anything changes.

Other than that I'd love to learn more about you. Can you detail your psychedelic experience a bit more? Have you extracted DMT or other things (e.g. mescaline) on your own yet? Do you grow entheogenic plants?

Please take a good look around - this place is a huge resource that has been assembled over a period of years by folks who know what they are doing and who really care. I suspect you may like what you find.

Again, welcome to the Nexus.

 

[fragariaananassa]

Thank you very much, Pandora!

As for myself, I actually already have a profile here on the nexus, but I forgot my password and me old e-mail is hacked, so I had to make up a new one. Is it a rich nexus indeed!
I tried drugs for the first time when I was 16 y/o, and it was 4-acetoxy-DMT. I did this a couple of times, all of them having a rather dark nature to them. I often tended to end up crying without really knowing why (I had been on and off depressed since I was 12, but never really realized why). My first experience with MDMA was extraordinary, though: it all started with the same, low, blue feeling, gradually falling lower and lower faster and faster, until I really just bursted into tears and started rambling all my thoughts and feelings. It all felt like a great big verbal vomiting session, totally out of control, it HAD to come out. And when is was over, althogh it mught seem cheesy, I knew who I was, I had found myself again, and ever since that day I've never fel depressed again. I'm still learning from that day, it was years and years of therapy in one night.
After this, I have tried DMT maybe 30-40 times. I'm really not sure. Shrooms ten times or so,with very different intensities. I'm easy on the drugs hard on the serotonin reseptors, so MDMA I've only done three times total. Smoked quite a lot of weed, adn tried 4-HO-MiPT a couple of times.
I've never extracted DMT etc on my own yet, but my now ex-boyfriend did it when we were together, and I will probably do it sometime myself, especially when I'm done with my degree in chemistry.

So anyway, I feel that I have a rough picture of what usually happens during a DMT trip, as I usually do it in sessions with friends and hear their stories as well. My friends here has me wondering, though. We'll try again later, maybe with pharmahuasca this time. He says that he really wants to experience a breakthrough, but I reckon this may be harder with pharmahuasca. What do you think?

 

[fragariaananassa]

Also, another thing about my friend: it have always taken him a very long time to feel the effects of the shrooms/MDMA. Three hours went by before he felt the MDMA at all! And, he comes off to he as somewhat sceptical and maybe even a little closed, psyche-wise, even though he claims that he is very open to new experiences himself. I took MDMA with another friend of mine who was of the same type as him, and he also had a hard time feeling anything at all before he talked openly to anyone. It was as though he held on to something. Can this maybe be the case here as well?

 

[topherfoster]

Im not that experienced at all. But too dark of rooms make my hyperspace harder to see I think? Or can alter how you view the trip?

Can try this: Leave a closet light on, but dont sit directly in view of the bulb. Or maybe theres too much light - so cut back?

Also different areas in a house or in nature can help boost it (I wouldnt do it directly under the sun though).

Again, just throwing random things out there that seem to help me (and others) "break through". Ive figured out exactly what makes the colors come in good. In a pitch black room - I'll end up just floating through space passing by neon colors and stuff...
Everyones different though.

edit: also technique is different too
My bro can blast off in 1 good hit. Same hardware I use... But I take 3 hits, no breathing in between (breath out and take the next hit when you breath in).

 

[clearlyone]

Hello fellow travellers!
He says that he reaches this nothingness, zen-place, where he is at peace with himself and everything (and that's how he is sober, as well). He wonders why there's no fireworks, so to say. When he smoked DMT, we loaded up 50-60mg in a GVG. He wonders why he comes to this zen-place every single time he trips, on everything he's tripping on; have you guys had the same linearity in your experiences?

This is now my situation. Most trips are now essentially the same in that they lead to the same empty but full, content, light filled space. That same sense is more or less present while sober - although less sensually obvious.

This sameness is Okay with me now. Several years ago there were entities, profound insights into potential alternative realities - all the novelty was there. Part of me misses that. Today freebase launches can be chaotic but it too (like shrooms and mj) settles down into the same space or ground. Senses are different but the peace and clear light is one and the same.

Your friend sounds at peace in this life and hyperspace.