social anxiety and DMT

[Tactic]

My relationship with DMT is just beginning, it happens coincide with a time when I am experiencing intense social anxiety in my everyday life - in a university setting. I can't stand to be looked at or even make small talk with people. This anxiety seems to be contextual. For example, I recently retured from a year of solo travel where I made many friends and felt very comfortable (by my standards) talking to everyone. What I'm experiencing right now is extreme and confusing.

I'm in a new place (sort of) where I feel very socially isolated and don't have any real friends.

I had my first breakthrough on Sunday. I was frustrated with the results I had been getting and stupidly took a unmeasured dose that shattered my mind. I came back disoriented and shaken, but still found the experience beautiful.

Yesterday I tried a lower dose (I have a scale now) and the threshold effects brought me a flashback of my previous trip, which I had mostly forgotten. The flashback is hard to describe but I have the feeling my consciousness was playfully/violently dismantled by tiny entities then reassembled.

Anyways, the flashback made me realize I have a healthy fear of going back into hyperspace, so I think I will wait a while. Curiosity will inevitably pull me back in.

While I take some time to integrate my experience, I would love if some of you could share your experiences of social anxiety/isolation as it relates to DMT.

 

[tele]

I think D could even help with anxiety, by facing at some times journeys that induce such deep anxiety that make the daily social anxiety seem like nothing compared to it. Learning to deal with it(anxiety) and facing one's fears. I think it can make one stronger and more confident, which is a thing needed at kicking social anxiety.

 

[q21q21]

D has helped me integrate some of the material from this audiobook but the audiobook itself I cannot recommend more.
It has taken me a few moths just to get to week 7 cause of some personal crisis but now that I am back on track life is so much brighter. (and alien friend of mine downloaded it from bittorrent, luck martian with no pirating laws)

MAKE SURE to do what the guy says and don't rush it. I listened to week 17 and then when anxiety struck I didn't know the tactics to help avoid, distract and eventually eliminate social anxiety cause I didn't learn the concepts thoroughly.

even just the 7 weeks have made a change that from my opinion made me from a very anxious person to a person that is no more anxious than average, in fact in many situation I feel that since I know about anxiety and I see it in other people I help them out.

If you ever want some advice on SAD then feel free to ask me something or share anything, I waiting a few months til my group therapy starts which I could probably do without just fine, but like I said I feel this can give me the upper-edge being more confident than the average person

 

[fractalic]

if you had to deal with some crazy out of this world entities, it shouldn't be a big problem than to deal with some ordinary humans, wouldn't it?

i actually had more or less the same problems, when i went on university after 7 years of traveling.
but i told myself that if i had no problem to communicate while traveling ,it shouldn't be much harder now.

try to remember, you are always still in your journey,it is only the setting which is a bit different.

 

[Sebastian]

You are probably doing fine! Or at least better then most in modern society.

What i have learned by now is that when you are a sensitive person (which is said can happen by the pineal gland activating power of DMT, but can also happen very well without DMT) and you have a decent notion of love, you can easily be confused by how confused the world around you is, just by feeling, no words or specific deeds are needed.
So in other words; go somewhere peaceful which matches your true being. A lot of walks in nature will help, take rest and some sort of meditation which suits your feelings best.

The world or the larger part of our society we are told to be the normal place isn't that normal and peaceful at all, which is okay on it self, but can become a problem when you strongly feel it in your heart but don't recognize and understand it well enough yet with your mind. To fix it in a normal situation you would recognize it and choose to go somewhere else, but unable to figure out whats going on and what to do you feel stuck and think you are loosing it.
Also a lot of people are walking around with a lot of "astral garbage" as someone called it once, heavy emotions spewing everywhere on a 'feeling level', when you are not well centered and have problems recognizing it properly, it can be really hard to talk with such individuals or even be in there vicinity.

At least that is how I experience it.
Often I try to refuse the flaws and pains of the modern society because it's a comfort to stay somewhere what feels as a well known place, while on the other (heart) level i feel highly uncomfortable because deep down I know all sorts of stuff doesn't match with true love.

In the end I don't feel DMT has a lot to do with it, although it can make things worse just like anything else you do on the wrong moment.
Check with your feelings and only use DMT when you feel peaceful and strong and you have the idea it can help you, don't use it in other situations.
I think it's only harder to make up your mind about one place (the place you live and work or go to school now) when you go visit outer realms without a strong home base.
To me it feels more sensible to first have a good base here on earth and go cosmic after that, in fact, it's probably the only way that would really work out positive.

And again; enough rest and nature are your best friends in this journey.

Hope this sort of helps, all the best!

 

[q21q21]

I should stress that although I said it helped me integrate some things, when I smoked it prior to learning about social anxiety and the methods to overcome it, it gave me no benefit whatsoever.

Also anyone who thinks social anxiety (or depression and all similar things) is something you can just decide to stop and just snap out of it with a little willpower immediately has clearly not experienced it, at least not at the severity required to know that is NOT a solution.

 

[Tactic]

Thanks for sharing guys,
I'm going to check out the audio book q21q21 suggested. I'm also starting Jungian analysis with a therapist next week.

 

[Phantastica]

Hi Tactic, i have very little experience with spice, and am currently taking a long break of total sobriety, so i can't comment on the effects that spice would have on SA.
I just wanna share something that i realized within myself regarding SA on a shroom trip a while ago. i too used to have this SA, and sometimes still feel it, but i realized that i was trying become better at socialization by trying to change my thoughts. this didn't work for me, because i realized that thoughts are simply by-products, of something else. that something else, is the human energy field. thus, in order to get rid of SA, i started doing chakra meditations, and yoga (and still do), in order to bring a change at the level of energy; since this is where true change can take place. i felt soooo much better afterwards and so alive that i wanted to talk to everyone. it felt amazing. another thing i recently started doing to improve my communication skills is public speaking courses. i joined a Toastmasters club, which is super cheap (~$36 per 6 months), and found it very helpful. i deeply urge anyone who feels they have SA to Find a club near their location, and join immediately. people here are very supportive, and believe me, you will feel frickin amazing once you break through that ice. anyways, gotta go..i actually have a toastmasters meeting that i need to attend to in 20min, so peace