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Hello fellow travelers, Since I'm new to this forum and also to DMT I've got some questions. 1. In this forum I see a lot of people talk about aya, is this a short for ayahuasca? 2. I've ordered some stuff for my first DMT trip. And I'm wondering if I understand everything correctly about it and if it's good or not: I've ordered the two following: a. Mimosa hostilis (the DMT container) b. Peganum harmala (the MAO container) They say the way of using it is as follows: a. Make a small tea out of 5 grams of grinded Peganum harmala b. Do the same with 10 grams of the Mimosa c. On an empty stomach drink the Peganum tea d. After 15 minutes, drink the Mimosa tea e. After about 45-60 minutes the experience will begin 3. How long does the trip last? 4. Is the moon really smaller at the horizon as compared to the mid-sky? Well, except for the last one I love to see answers. :p
 
Welcome Traveller! Glad you managed to find this lil intergalatic forum on the far side of hyperspace! :p As for your queries: 1. Yep 2. a) You don't need to use 5 grams, 3 grams is enough and you can just pop the ground seeds in your mouth without having to make a tea with it, you can just wash it down with a softdrink or water. b) Yep, just mix the ground rootbark with around 2 litres of fresh water with a few squeezes of lemon boiled down to roughly 400ml to 200ml should be fine. c) Yes or just eat the ground seeds washed down with a drink. d) I would give it a bit longer but everyone is different, I would wait around 30 to 40 minutes before ingesting the Mimosa brew. e) Welcome to DMT Land, make sure seatbelts are securely fastened and all luggage is in the overhead compartments. :p 3. It usually lasts between 4 to 5 hours but this can vary depending on the dose and a person's size and weight. 4. I beleive so, it happens when the cow jumps over it. :p Also I would make sure to follow the diet requirements and definetly keep away from not ingesting any of these things on this list prior to trying Aya, serious danger to self can occur otherwise: Erowid MAOI Vault : Foods to Avoid Erowid MAOI Vault : Drugs to Avoid Also I wouldn't drink to much too soon for your first time, just gradually sip it as that will slowly build up the intentsity of the experience and will let you get a feel for the trip. Other than that happy journeys and let us know how it goes for you. :)
 
Thank you very much for the answers! I've still got some questions though, just so I can have the best and most safe experience: [quote:6fd5d72820="blackclo"]a) You don't need to use 5 grams, 3 grams is enough and you can just pop the ground seeds in your mouth without having to make a tea with it, you can just wash it down with a softdrink or water. [/quote:6fd5d72820] Good advice, the less MAO you have to use the better I guess. Do I have to chew the seeds or just swallow it as a whole with some water? [quote:6fd5d72820="blackclo"]b) Yep, just mix the ground rootbark with around 2 litres of fresh water with a few squeezes of lemon boiled down to roughly 400ml to 200ml should be fine. [/quote:6fd5d72820] So I start with two liters of water and put the mimosa bark in it and let it boil until there is about 200-400ml of the holy mixture left? Is it also adviceable to grind the bark into very small pieces, maybe even with a coffee-grinder? [quote:6fd5d72820="blackclo"]Also I wouldn't drink to much too soon for your first time, just gradually sip it as that will slowly build up the intentsity of the experience and will let you get a feel for the trip. [/quote:6fd5d72820] Again, this is the advice I need, thanx. As for the diet: I'm fasting the whole day with only drinking water en start using the holy mixture at about 18:00. I'm not using any medication. Also I've read that it's better not to drink alcohol until some days after taking the holy mixture, is this correct? I know, lots of questions but I hope you enjoy giving the advice. ;)
 
Hi, welcome. I like to make an acid extract of both plants and cook the liquid down to dry and encapsulate it. Much easier injestion and why be traditional with non traditional bark and rue? Use blackclover's method, just (carefully) take it down to dry. I don't like dosing on an empty stomach. The drug makes me intensely aware of being hungry and it's horribly distracting. Some rice or noodles in broth a few hours prior is my advice. I'll probably get yelled at for this, but I drink beer before during and after Aya sessions. Works for me. Here's the most spot on guide I know for diet do's and don'ts: http://www.blackclover.com.au/bboard/viewtopic.php?t=137 I wait until I feel the rue to take the mimosa. I figure that way, if anything horrible is going to happen MAO wise, I'll know it by then and not be tripping on DMT on top of it. I've found that the rue lasts a lot longer than the DMT, so you can take it quite a while before. It's quite pleasant in it's own right, many vine users don't even add DMT. The DMT kicks in EXACTLY 45 minutes after ingestion for me. Regarding chewing/grinding/whole rue seeds, they must be ground very fine and they are like grinding BB's. You'll need a coffee grinder. They will not digest. Your bark likewise needs to be ground fine. It is fibrous and you'll need to break it into short sections that your coffee grinder can handle. It will break down into a pink powder under some wooly fiber with some stray hard little nuggets. The pink powder is fine as smoke and you should let the grinder sit after running it and allow the powder to settle. It's also astringent as hell and impossible not to breathe if you don't wear a mask. Wear a mask - trust me. BTW - you don't have to refer to it as the holy whatever. She doesn't ask that sort of supplication. 😉 And I always thought that the moon on the horizon was bigger because there is more atmosphere to magnify it.
 
[quote:8134c886a4] Good advice, the less MAO you have to use the better I guess. Do I have to chew the seeds or just swallow it as a whole with some water? [/quote:8134c886a4] You don't really have to chew em. But you probably should grind them up nicely in a coffee grinder, they will work much better that way. [quote:8134c886a4] So I start with two liters of water and put the mimosa bark in it and let it boil until there is about 200-400ml of the holy mixture left? Is it also adviceable to grind the bark into very small pieces, maybe even with a coffee-grinder? [/quote:8134c886a4] That's right, 2 litres boiled down with some lemon juice to about 200 to 400ml give or take. Yes you should grind up the bark as much as possible, the more the better. [quote:8134c886a4] As for the diet: I'm fasting the whole day with only drinking water en start using the holy mixture at about 18:00. I'm not using any medication. Also I've read that it's better not to drink alcohol until some days after taking the holy mixture, is this correct? [/quote:8134c886a4] Yes you should try to really avoid all the stuff on those two lists in my previous post as it can cause dangerous complications otherwise. Noman may be able to handle a few beers during his trips but everyone is different and it's better to be safe than sorry. If you have any other queries don't hesitate to ask. :)
 
Thank you for your replies Noman and blackclo. On this moment I'm boiling the grinded mimose, only forgot to add lemon juice, is this a problem? I'm halfway now I think with boiling it down. Maybe I add a liter of water again together with the lemon juice? Already got some nice relaxing music ready (Liquid Mind) and altough I've not eaten the whole day I'm not hungry so there should be no problems with the MAOI. I probably start within some three hours with the aya. I'll let you all know about the experience. Kind regards, The Traveler p.s. good idea to stop calling it holy all the time Noman. I got the idea because someone told me they were calling it Holy Smoke and I liked that phrase. ;)
 
[quote:138ca9247b] On this moment I'm boiling the grinded mimose, only forgot to add lemon juice, is this a problem? I'm halfway now I think with boiling it down. Maybe I add a liter of water again together with the lemon juice? [/quote:138ca9247b] I don't think it will be a problem, the lemon just extracts the dmt from the bark a little better but it should still work fine without it. I hope your first journey is insightful and wonderous, I know mine was! :)
 
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