Questions regarding frequency of DMT use

[Panpsychic]

Ok I can handle nasty for the greater good , so if the brew is made correct, how much longer will it make the experience?

You are talking straight DMT is 5-10 mins, with properly dosed rue tea (at least 3 grams or more for a dose) taken between half an hour to an hour before, it can be extended to a good 25-40 mins. And its not just the duration, its the depth also.
Seriously I cant believe you haven't been on this stuff before with the Deem. I am genuinely excited for you.

I also find that a strong Ginger ale (non alcoholic) cuts the taste well with Rue tea taken from the fridge.

 

[The Sofa Traveler]

Ok I can handle nasty for the greater good , so if the brew is made correct, how much longer will it make the experience?

Depending on the dose it would extend the experience up to 2/3 times. It's not only about experience length though, it also modifies experience quality, which becomes more channeled and grounded, with a somewhat slowed down pace that makes it easier to recollect the insights and what happened. The comedown is very gradual compared to pure DMT and helps for better integration and recollection too.
It might dramatically change your perspective and view on DMT and how you can use it. I remember the first time I had a rue tea with DMT I was like "wow, I was missing half the recipe all this time". I never looked back and only take DMT with harmal* since. It's a game changer, not only a booster or experience time extender.
Not to mention it's also a powerful medicine which has a very ancient track of spiritual and shamanic use. Maybe be even older than the ayahuasca vine, of which it's an analogue.

*name given to Peganum harmala/Syrian rue in some Arabic countries

 

[brettsta]

You are talking straight DMT is 5-10 mins, woth properly dosed rue tea (at least 3 grams for a dose) taken between half and hour to an hour before, it can be extended to a good 25-40 mins.
Seriously I cant believe you haven't been on this stuff before with the Deem. I am genuinely excited for you.

Yeah me too , 25-40 sounds great , I fine tuned a technique lengthening from 10-25 with multiple vapes
But yea fuk man I've been missing out on rue , I'm going to be a good guinea , to be honest , my brain
Says ERROR when I try to consider the experience being anymore incredible .

 

[new_science]

The first time I combined oral rue (tea made with 4g) with DMT, the experience lasted well over an hour. Still feeling effects around 90 minutes in. I cannot explain this, and I wouldn't expect it to happen a second time. I mention it because it is very difficult to predict where these medicines will bring you and for how long. Lay your expectations to the side for now and build them for the future from your initial forays. Even still, it is generally best to trip with as few as possible. Enjoy your exploration

 

[The Sofa Traveler]

The first time I combined oral rue (tea made with 4g) with DMT, the experience lasted well over an hour. I cannot explain this, and I wouldn't expect it to happen a second time.

Yep, I remember also over 60mn experiences, even up to 75-90mn. Not exactly a continuous trip of constant intensity but rather waves that went away then came back. Like you think it's all finished but no, another wave comes by surprise.

 

[brettsta]

Depending on the dose it would extend the experience up to 2/3 times. It's not only about experience length though, it also modifies experience quality, which becomes more channeled and grounded, with a somewhat slowed down pace that makes it easier to recollect the insights and what happened. The comedown is very gradual compared to pure DMT and helps for better integration and recollection too.
It might dramatically change your perspective and view on DMT and how you can use it. I remember the first time I had a rue tea with DMT I was like "wow, I was missing half the recipe all this time". I never looked back and only take DMT with harmal* since. It's a game changer, not only a booster or experience time extender.
Not to mention it's also a powerful medicine which has a very ancient track of spiritual and shamanic use. Maybe be even older than the ayahuasca vine, of which it's an analogue.

*name given to Peganum harmala/Syrian rue in some Arabic countries

Sounds like it brings a little order to the chaos, I'm up for slowing it down a bit , smell the roses .

I can hear the Rue is calling

 

[brettsta]

*name given to Peganum harmala/Syrian rue in some Arabic countries

I do have a question, i don't know if it's just me , but occasionally when it takes a turn for the worst , when I have pushed a little too far , and you end up in the wrong place !! that black place where your mind is spaghettifide
or worse. How do you deal that if your in there for over 30 min.

 

[ommani]

However, from what I have seen and the reverence with which you approach DMT

Unlike some other people who shall remain unnamed, but can generally be referred to as the heathen.

 

[Panpsychic]

It's not only about experience length though, it also modifies experience quality, which becomes more channeled and grounded, with a somewhat slowed down pace that makes it easier to recollect the insights and what happened. The

The 'Channeled' aspect is most interesting with Rue. For me this is a very strong aspect, in that the experience becomes very much a case of being guided by 'On High' so to speak. I feel that this clear presence directing things is one of the main effects the Rue reveals and facilities the work that the DMT helps one to address.

I do have a question, i don't know if it's just me , but occasionally when it takes a turn for the worst , when I have pushed a little too far , and you end up in the wrong place !! that black place where your mind is spaghettifide
or worse. How do you deal that if your in there for over 30 min.

I would say it much less likely when you add Rue. A lot of the disorienting and overwhelming experiences come from the suddeness of straight DMT and being launched into hyperspace. The is much more of going there with a vehicle, the journey being itself guided and beamed to by a greater presence.

 

[brettsta]

The 'Channeled' aspect is most interesting with Rue. For me this is a very strong aspect, in that the experience becomes very much a case of being guided by 'On High' so to speak. I feel that this clear presence directing things is one of the main effects the Rue reveals and facilities the work that the DMT helps one to address.


I would say it much less likely when you add Rue. A lot of the disorienting and overwhelming experiences come from the suddeness of straight DMT and being launched into hyperspace. The is much more of going there with a vehicle, the journey being itself guided and beamed to by a greater presence.

So it's going to lower the entropy, calm it down . That sounds like just the ticket .

With rue by my side I could be king of hyperspace, where did that fella go , he was interesting.

 

[Kuroth]

Wow. This thread really came to life.. Thank you all. Will save this thread link.. Still reading and processing it all.. So much to learn for a newbe..

 

[Transform]

also find that a strong Ginger ale (non alcoholic) cuts the taste well with Rue tea taken from the fridge.

Good point - and, paradoxically, I've found rue tea which is so hot you can only just drink it to be more tolerable than brew which is merely warm.

 

[blig-blug]

Good point - and, paradoxically, I've found rue tea which is so hot you can only just drink it to be more tolerable than brew which is merely warm.

It seems to get worse and worse the colder it is. I used to cook larger batches and save it in the fridge, and it became thicker and much more disgusting.

 

[brettsta]

Wow. This thread really came to life.. Thank you all. Will save this thread link.. Still reading and processing it all.. So much to learn for a newbe..

yes it grew legs and took of , hopefully that answers you questions and we learnt all about Syrian Rue .

 

[ommani]

Rue tea blends well with honey and peppermint, in my experience, which can offset the bitterness, and may aid with digestion.

 

[new_science]

ommani, that's not allowed, you have to drink it straight or the demons stay inside of you. It's like purging on psychdelics, if you don't vomit the trip doesn't count and you have to try again.

 

[ommani]

ommani, that's not allowed, you have to drink it straight or the demons stay inside of you. It's like purging on psychdelics, if you don't vomit the trip doesn't count and you have to try again.

This is what happens when I try to write a serious post lol

 

[new_science]

Sometimes I am afraid that our jokes will be taken seriously by readers. Then I mix some more boboga with my bufotenine. After a few lines, I forget whether I'm on reddit or chocobeastie's homepage, where his biography includes a desire to be a producer of pornography.

 

[ommani]

Sometimes I am afraid that our jokes will be taken seriously by readers.

I’m walking being serious here !

Then I mix some more boboga with my bufotenine. After a few lines, I forget whether I'm on reddit or chocobeastie's homepage, where his biography includes a desire to be a producer of pornography.

An admirable goal that could be described as a modern iteration of the Hero’s Journey.