robertus-spagyricus
Rising Star
Ok, well I just read through that thread. Interesting,
It gave me more of an understanding of people's interests on here and where Spagyrics might intersect with the Entheogenic path.
Firstly I'll just say - that woman is/was a dick - coming on here and making judgements and being concerned about selling her product in an arrogant fashion. Personally as a spagyric alchemist I'm very suss on peeps who wanna sling their wares, I mean jeez. More relevantly though, she didn't really do ANYTHING to explore, explain or clarify (as in to share information, utilitarian-like) the ontology and rationale behind Alchemy and spagyric medicines and how it might relate or be complimented by that of the entheogenic. In the end her expertise meant nothing - she went on for a while but provided zilch, apart from a gem here and there in amongst the dross. This is the opposite of what I wanted to do here (and guess what - I aint selling anything!)
It raises a series of questions, but I guess the reason why I initially expressed (perhaps unsuitably) that skeptical materialist/scientific turseness wouldn't really have a place in this sort of discussion, was because the reasoning behind Alchemy and it's practice of spagyrics is quite metaphysical. It 100% includes all of the relevant scientific knowledge, and indeed scrutiny, but also extends it's rationale to realms further than modern chemistry 'has room for'. This is because it deals with the 'life force' of each plant, mineral and animal.
That might not be welcomed here - I presumed it wouldn't have been by Burnt - so it's really up to y'all if you're interested. I accept that you may not be. I'll explain further once I hear some response.
One last thing - yes, polytrip, an Entheogen is a molecule. But tell me, is the 'Theo' part of 'Entheogen' a molecule? Or indeed, is it 'matter'? This sort of philosophical discourse isn't really what I wanted to get into, and I have no interest in discussing or arguing such things as everyone is entitled to their opinion which is no business of mine.
It gave me more of an understanding of people's interests on here and where Spagyrics might intersect with the Entheogenic path.
Firstly I'll just say - that woman is/was a dick - coming on here and making judgements and being concerned about selling her product in an arrogant fashion. Personally as a spagyric alchemist I'm very suss on peeps who wanna sling their wares, I mean jeez. More relevantly though, she didn't really do ANYTHING to explore, explain or clarify (as in to share information, utilitarian-like) the ontology and rationale behind Alchemy and spagyric medicines and how it might relate or be complimented by that of the entheogenic. In the end her expertise meant nothing - she went on for a while but provided zilch, apart from a gem here and there in amongst the dross. This is the opposite of what I wanted to do here (and guess what - I aint selling anything!)
It raises a series of questions, but I guess the reason why I initially expressed (perhaps unsuitably) that skeptical materialist/scientific turseness wouldn't really have a place in this sort of discussion, was because the reasoning behind Alchemy and it's practice of spagyrics is quite metaphysical. It 100% includes all of the relevant scientific knowledge, and indeed scrutiny, but also extends it's rationale to realms further than modern chemistry 'has room for'. This is because it deals with the 'life force' of each plant, mineral and animal.
That might not be welcomed here - I presumed it wouldn't have been by Burnt - so it's really up to y'all if you're interested. I accept that you may not be. I'll explain further once I hear some response.
One last thing - yes, polytrip, an Entheogen is a molecule. But tell me, is the 'Theo' part of 'Entheogen' a molecule? Or indeed, is it 'matter'? This sort of philosophical discourse isn't really what I wanted to get into, and I have no interest in discussing or arguing such things as everyone is entitled to their opinion which is no business of mine.