Spiritual experiences, you say?

[River of Thoughts]

hehe you can NOT put a DMT experience into words. Simply words are NOT enough to explain it, I've read and written many experiences but it NEVER does the experience justice. The forums are loaded with experiences. Start reading, searching and researching instead of being lazy about it and asking everyone to post in your thread.

I spent 2-3 YEARS of reading on trip reports and research the effects just to take the courage to experience it myself.

Put some effort into it... it is truly rewarding.

 

[Guyomech]

Search the Nexus for the poll: Are the entities real? Yes or no

It's a fascinating discussion that goes right to the heart of your question.



You ever see that movie, The Neverending Story? In it, the main character encounters this series of tests in the course of seeking his goal. Some of these tests, if you fail, are deadly. And there's this crazy old guy who has been hanging around this thing, studying it his whole life from a distance, never actually making the effort to try it... Slowly going crazy. You can study DMT all you want but without trying it, you're that crazy old guy.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

Also let me warn you that there are real "spirits" involved with DMT.
-Spirits that could care less whether you believe in them or not

Come on now...endlessness already pointed out to you that such absolutes have no place here.

 

[River of Thoughts]

All I can tell you from my personal experience with DMT was that Unity Conciousness exists and I've felt every being/universe/dimension that exists. How do you explain that into words? I don't know... the feeling is too vast for words... think of all the information that exists in our perceived reality multiplied by infinity. Gotta try it and you will end up laughing and crying like a maniac because you realize our vocabulary is inadequate.

 

[Guyomech]

Orwell pointed out that we can only describe and discuss that which our language allows for. And yes, your first psychedelic experience will show you how massively epic the hole in our language is, and you will be amazed and appalled at how that limited language has limited the scope of your world. And you will make moves to try fixing that.

 

[Shamasi Wiz]

Check these: DMT - Quality experience reports - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

And these: Memorable Threads from The DMT Nexus - Open Discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Loads of us have already shared what you're asking for. It's all waiting there for you. Enjoy.

 

[amazingino]

If you say, "DMT lets me communicate with otherworldly beings." And I say, "Is there any evidence of these beings outside of the DMT experience, and if not, is it possible to assume that these beings exist only in the mind and are produced by the intoxication of the mind via DMT, and therefore are an effect of the molecule rather than the spirit?" I don't want to seem argumentative or disrespectful to the site. But if thats not an issue, I don't mind discussing any of that here.

What evidence do you have that your ordinary, everyday experiences are “real”?

What evidence do you have that anything exists outside of your consciousness?

^ this

An experience by definition is subjective, it cannot be objective. We share lot of subjective experiences with each other, it doesn't make them objective.
So stop trying and smoke some

 

[joedirt]

Here is a rational description for you.

DMT with closed eye's is like watching the back of your eyelids light up into the most amazing colors and patterns you've ever seen promptly to give way to a dream like vision that can feel real/unreal to various degrees. On large doses complete loss of body sensation is achieved, loss of breath awareness can happen. Most people panik a little the first time this happens.

DMT with open eyes is like watching every object in the room jump into motion while color trails grow bolder in color and eventually fill the room until eventually you arrive in completely different world that may or may not be anything like the place you were moments ago. On large doses ego loss, and death/rebirth are often experienced.

Beyond that, pretty much anything you can possible imagine and more is possible. It's utterly different for every person that tries it. It can be the most amazing experience of a persons life or the most terrifying of a persons life.

To be honest I feel pretty comfortable saying that anyone who has not experienced a break through dose most likely has zero understanding about their real nature. The reason I can say that is a large dose strips away everything that you call you. Your like dislikes, your beliefs/unbeliefs, fears/concerns/anxieties/joys, everything that you think of as you is stripped away, but you are still there calmly aware. If you get lucky and get a white light dose you can literally feel this (I don't think it's yours) awareness grow to consume everything and merge with unity.

But seriously what I just wrote is meaningless in comparison.

Peace

 

[universecannon]

This subjest had been discussed
ad nauseum on nexus . There is a wealth of info regarding this coming at it from many angles , keep reading .

It's true that unless you see for yourself you simply cannot grasp the magnitude of what this stuff is about .

I can tell you no matter what you believe it will rattle those beliefs to your core.

If you haven't experienced it you don't know what your talking about its that simple I,m afraid .

 

[cassini]

aSkeptic
-Spirits that could care less whether you believe in them or not

wait... 'COULD care less' ?

 

[nexalizer]

Here is a rational description for you.

DMT with closed eye's is like watching the back of your eyelids light up into the most amazing colors and patterns you've ever seen promptly to give way to a dream like vision that can feel real/unreal to various degrees. On large doses complete loss of body sensation is achieved, loss of breath awareness can happen. Most people panik a little the first time this happens.

DMT with open eyes is like watching every object in the room jump into motion while color trails grow bolder in color and eventually fill the room until eventually you arrive in completely different world that may or may not be anything like the place you were moments ago. On large doses ego loss, and death/rebirth are often experienced.

Beyond that, pretty much anything you can possible imagine and more is possible. It's utterly different for every person that tries it. It can be the most amazing experience of a persons life or the most terrifying of a persons life.

To be honest I feel pretty comfortable saying that anyone who has not experienced a break through dose most likely has zero understanding about their real nature. The reason I can say that is a large dose strips away everything that you call you. Your like dislikes, your beliefs/unbeliefs, fears/concerns/anxieties/joys, everything that you think of as you is stripped away, but you are still there calmly aware. If you get lucky and get a white light dose you can literally feel this (I don't think it's yours) awareness grow to consume everything and merge with unity.

But seriously what I just wrote is meaningless in comparison.

Peace

Good stuff, thanks for putting in the time to write this.

 

[acacian]

What decides what experience you have?

.The dose you take
.Your internal setting (you essentially - and your preconditions of the world around you ) and external setting i.e the environment in which you dose
.Attitude and intention for the having the experience
.Your reaction to it

You can't choose what your experience will be. The universe is a constant - it doesn't just pause at a convenient time for when you smoke dmt. Its like when you breakthrough, you walk in on a dimension of the universe that always is and always has been operating whether or not you are present for it. However you do get out what you put in, thats for sure. Be sure your intentions are pure and surrender no matter what, and you will be shown great things

 

[DiaMondTongue]

I have a question for you aSkeptic...

What would you accept as proof to your own reason and common sense, regarding what we have been discussing?

 

[DiaMondTongue]

I watched (not as a human, but as a disembodied point of observation with no point of reference to tie 'me' to my former state) as the Universe reached the pinnacle of its expansion and loop back on itself in at least 12 dimensions, before revealing to me everything I ever needed to know and more! Releasing every emotion within 'me' simultaneously and exposing the not so hidden power and energy of 'the divine' within me and anyone who cares to look into themselves!!!!!! Then I returned as 5 mins had passed in the material plane and had a nice brew and some choccy biccys.

Of course, I can't prove objectively that's what happened... Because I've washed my cup and the bin man has taken the empty packet.

 

[Eliyahu]

cassini.....
Could, couldn't, same difference right?? or no?

Sorry -SnozzleBerry-

My hide got a little chapped....

because I feel like aSkeptic is a tamperin' with things he should not be tampering with.

I don't know for sure that spirits absolutely exist and are definitely mad at aSkeptic...

I am just speculating

 

[Godspark]

I'd like to know what causes the experiences you all have. Why you experience something one time, and then something totally different the next time. What decides what experience you have?

Quantum Tunneling maybe?

 

[new_science]

You don't need to experience everything first hand to research something

This is where you are incorrect, unfortunately. Have you ever had a psychedelic experience, beyond marijuana? DMT is the mother of alternate realities. There is this world, and that world. They are disparate experiences and existences and I am afraid we cannot convey that adequately to you, by ANY means of language known.

The DMT nexus is so valuable because nowhere else can people who share this vision communicate with another, so different it is than every day life. DMT is a just a drug, yes, but it is an endogenous and shared one--between species--at that. It is important on a molecular level. Please do not assume that reading a couple books by people who have not done DMT themselves makes you an authority on the subject, findings MUST be empirical, it is the only way. So please do not think we are being snooty or dismissive, it is just not something you can learn about so easily. Such is life, you must grab it for yourself.