Stb changa in a mhrb rue mixed soup

[DK_one]

Ok, not sure why it came to my mind, but if my end product is planned to be changa.
Would it be possible to do a stb with both plants in the one same soup?

Like Noah water with overload of Noah like a typical mhrb stb soup and add Syrian rue seeds and the mhrb into?

Since I not want separated alkaloids/bases?
Or do I need other setup? (Maybe cuz stb not suiting Syrian rue)

Secondary Q:
I got freebase nndmt, would it even work to add crushed Syrian rue into Xylene for X amount time to pour over leaves later and add the freebase?


Looking for a easyway changa.

 

[Transform]

Ok, not sure why it came to my mind, but if my end product is planned to be changa.
Would it be possible to do a stb with both plants in the one same soup?

Like Noah water with overload of Noah like a typical mhrb stb soup and add Syrian rue seeds and the mhrb into?

Since I not want separated alkaloids/bases?
Or do I need other setup? (Maybe cuz stb not suiting Syrian rue)

Secondary Q:
I got freebase nndmt, would it even work to add crushed Syrian rue into Xylene for X amount time to pour over leaves later and add the freebase?


Looking for a easyway changa.

Unfortunately the low solubility of harmala freebase alkaloids in non-polar solvents makes this route difficult to put into practice effectively. You'd need to find a water-immiscible solvent that dissolves the harmalas well enough.

I've theorised that dumping freebase DMT crystals into a neutral solution of harmala salts will coat the crystals with a decent amount of freebase. These would be an nearly instant changa crystal, so you might like to give that a try.

Just remember that some of the DMT will have gone into solution and save the liquid for recovery either directly or by including in your next extraction.

 

[DK_one]

solution of harmala salts

A bit more specific?
Mean a h2o salt solution?
Or a citric acid water solution?

Got a 10*. Rue extract brown powder guess it is freebase?

 

[Transform]

solution of harmala salts

a neutral solution of harmala salts

aqueous, kind of implied

Rue extract brown powder guess it is freebase?

Well, does it dissolve in neutral water? "Guess" is only a starting point here, and "10× extract" might not contain any alkaloids at all.

If it only dissolves after adding acid, its containing a significant proportion freebase alkaloids becomes much more likely a possibility.

 

[DK_one]

This was like a tip maybe a milligram if not a lot less and shot of water


Will check later if something will settle, but am I wrong when I say it looks like dissolved?

 

[Transform]

This was like a tip maybe a milligram if not a lot less and shot of waterView attachment 109539View attachment 109538


Will check later if something will settle, but am I wrong when I say it looks like dissolved?

Wait for solids to settle, then check the solution for fluorescence if you can. Stoppering the tube will help to minimise interference from CO₂ dissolving and potentially causing a little solubilisation of otherwise insoluble freebase. Maybe not for harmine, but possibly for harmaline or THH (if there's even any of the latter).

 

[DK_one]

Till no no settlement

If u ment uv light for fluorescence it is fluorescent.

Like liquid mycelium.... :/

Can do a pic later

Oh always forget that h2o is a solvent

 

[DK_one]

How long should I wait for settlement?
Nothing is happening.

Maybe I should add some more extract? Roy we're just the smallest amount I was able to pick

 

[Transform]

How long should I wait for settlement?
Nothing is happening.

Maybe I should add some more extract? Roy we're just the smallest amount I was able to pick

Probably a noticeable scoop of the extract using a microspatula would be… sensible. You have to be able to see it in order to observe whether it's dissolving.

The fluorescence does seem promising (and maybe you bioassayed the extract already?)

 

[DK_one]

Added like 50mg to it like 2+ hours ago
The dissolve took a bit of swirling

After two or more hours this is the look.
No real settlement or residue and the best shot of the fluorescence I was able to snap.
There is like a upper or on top layer which is more reactive to the UV....

Am I correct that could dissolve in this shot of water and pour a weed(non active) with it?

Or pour over the fb crystals like you mentioned....

 

[Transform]

Does the glow look brighter irl? Here's a filtered rue brew for comparison.

 

[DK_one]

Will try more and in an other container tomorrow...

Also is the nm or light spectrum of importance?
It's a really cheap flashlight from AliExpress I got, think a low 405nm or what the unit was.....