Sublingual DMT tincture: Story and Recipe. (NO BURN, NO NAUSEA)

[amor_fati]

Swim loves the idea of sublingual spice and harmalas and thinks a mid->low dose would be perfect (after some dose tweaking and tests) for a 3D movie type scenario.

Ha! Go easy. SWIM would imagine that harmaline or possibly even harmine would be bad idea for this, but THH would likely be ideal, as Espiridion reports it to be much more like mescaline. Definitely do some tests and wait for others' tests prior to attempting this, because SWIM could hardly bring himself to even sit upright during his experience.

So once his seed arrives he will be giving dmt n-oxide tinctures and windowpanes a go =p does anyone know why the yellow n-oxide is more active sublingually?

Reportedly, yellower spice is more active than whiter spice with these methods, so its a possibility.


SWIM wanted to say thanks to q21q21, Epiridion, and 69ron for turning him onto sublingual spice. He's pretty sure that there's no going back, and that the only way he would ever go back to traditional oral use is with a traditional brew. With this method, pharma can be much more validated as a wholly different experience from ayahuasca and legitimized in its own right. He's going to author a wiki writeup for the manner he goes about it, but it's going to be changing a great deal as more info becomes available; he wants this writeup to be as comprehensive as possible.

 

[69ron]

He's going to author a wiki writeup for the manner he goes about it, but it's going to be changing a great deal as more info becomes available; he wants this writeup to be as comprehensive as possible.

That will be greatly appreciated.

 

[amor_fati]

SWIM's still working toward being able to write a guide, but he'd like to add a quick note.

SWIM found that 35mg of THH missed the mark for 50mg spice, but his friend accidentally got a bit more THH (likely between 40-50mg) and had much more activity than SWIM. The next day, SWIM had aprx. 70-80mg of of about 1:1.5 harmine to THH, and it was incredibly strong. SWIM got the end of the short playlist he was listening to and decided to play around with audio hallucination (sort of the audio equivalent of CEV, since it's not indistinguishable from real sound...more like a voice in the head that you can "hear" quite clearly). Anyway, SWIM felt incredibly heavy and debilitated, the room was largely unrecognizable, and SWIM reached a sort of infantile state (happened with harmaline in prior experimentation, but in a different sort of way).

SWIM would guess that to adequately activate spice in sublingual use, one would have to take nearly as much of a harmaloid as spice, if not more--at least in the case of THH. SWIM wouldn't go much higher than 80mg of harmaloids and would keep it in the lower range with higher ratios of stronger RIMA's, like harmine and harmaline. Don't skimp too much on the harmaloids, or the few harmaloids and the bit of spice administered will be wasted.

SWIM recommends 30-40mg spice between 1:1-1:2 ratio with harmaloids, going easy on the harmaline and harmine.

Also, deep breathing seems to help keep SWIM's mouth drier during administration.

 

[starway6]

Oh wow.... 20drops harmaline, 5drops THH, 20drops recycled jurema-acetate, all sublingually...absolutely one of the most powerful pharma experiences of SWIM's life...

How did this info get lost in time sublingual spice!

This is older news but reading this far looks very interesting!