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Terence McKenna's Mega Bad Trip
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Similar to what @blig-blug says, the tendency to either idolize or demonize somebody is misguided, and btw it's a hallmark of BPD and similar disorders. But perhaps if someone has been through the idolization process, swinging the pendulum to the other side a bit is necessary to balance out.
I could be called a "humanist," believing in the infinite complexity and beauty of being human, and that no human can ever be perfect. That's why I never resonated fully with the "enlightenment/guru" cultures, the putting certain people on a pedestal.
At the same time, being a subject of fame also seems to me like it requires a hefty dose of narcissism, if not outright NPD. Being highly regarded in a village or tribe where the person and everyone has real living relationships with each other is one thing, but being idolized by millions of strangers - just doesn't feel very wholesome to me. İt encourages fake personas, a charade.
I could be called a "humanist," believing in the infinite complexity and beauty of being human, and that no human can ever be perfect. That's why I never resonated fully with the "enlightenment/guru" cultures, the putting certain people on a pedestal.
At the same time, being a subject of fame also seems to me like it requires a hefty dose of narcissism, if not outright NPD. Being highly regarded in a village or tribe where the person and everyone has real living relationships with each other is one thing, but being idolized by millions of strangers - just doesn't feel very wholesome to me. İt encourages fake personas, a charade.
and if I manage to reach the end of the hole, if I peel off the last layer of the onion, I'd be sure to stop by the Nexus and let y'all in on the secret at the end of time
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Interesting. And oddly enough - this topic confirms my own thoughts and conclusions about Terrence.
Despite all the grudge that a good part of the community seems to be holding against Terrence, I'm very grateful of what he contributed. His ideas found me exactly when I needed it and helped me to get through my own struggles with cubes-induced bad trips.
Fast forward about a year of more conscientious psychedelic practices, and having became very familiar with works of characters such as Allan Watts and Ram Dass - I've gotten a very strong feeling that Terrence got stuck.... he just never made it past a certain point.
Incidentally - from where I'm standing Today - I would tend to agree with Denis - there is no such thing as a bad trip. And I'm typing that - having lived through a number of absolut hellish, terrifying experiences where I was literally was holding onto bits of nothing, hairs away from ending my life . Oh - back then - these felt like very bad trips alright. My today's perspective on things - however - is very different.
Incidentally, I'd be the first one to grill anyone, including Terrence - for casually throwing around terms like "5g"... and yet, this is right around the dosage I need for a cubes trip to be worthwhile.
Not trying to brag, not really trying to make any particular points - other than - everyone has his/her own path to walk.
Despite all the grudge that a good part of the community seems to be holding against Terrence, I'm very grateful of what he contributed. His ideas found me exactly when I needed it and helped me to get through my own struggles with cubes-induced bad trips.
Fast forward about a year of more conscientious psychedelic practices, and having became very familiar with works of characters such as Allan Watts and Ram Dass - I've gotten a very strong feeling that Terrence got stuck.... he just never made it past a certain point.
Incidentally - from where I'm standing Today - I would tend to agree with Denis - there is no such thing as a bad trip. And I'm typing that - having lived through a number of absolut hellish, terrifying experiences where I was literally was holding onto bits of nothing, hairs away from ending my life . Oh - back then - these felt like very bad trips alright. My today's perspective on things - however - is very different.
Incidentally, I'd be the first one to grill anyone, including Terrence - for casually throwing around terms like "5g"... and yet, this is right around the dosage I need for a cubes trip to be worthwhile.
Not trying to brag, not really trying to make any particular points - other than - everyone has his/her own path to walk.
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Tragic that Terrence seems to have lost the plot right around the time he started making 'fuck u' money and achieving new heights of fame; that's a recipe for disaster if i've ever heard one. Accounts of his history increasingly lead me to view him as an enthusiastic psychedelic researcher who ended up a wannabe Tim Leary type, Esalen institute charlatan broadcasting nonsense alongside his Beat buddies. He was part of my teenage pantheon of psychedelic gods! a minor one but still. At least r.a.w. has stood the test of time (i think?)
edit: Also, thanks for posting that dreamer042 i enjoying reading it!
edit: Also, thanks for posting that dreamer042 i enjoying reading it!
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I think there are aspects to psychedelics that no one else really touched upon as well as Terrence…Especially in relation to tryptamines, and the total otherworldly aspects of psilocybin and DMT…Terrence was in a league of his own.
Watts, Ram Dass, Leary and Huxley etc…they never really hit that mark the way Terrence did. Archaic revival is a brilliant read if you just take it for what it is. He stood out for a reason and still does. There have been a lot of Mckenna wannabes but it’s all mostly terrible and just awkward to listen to.
Watts, Ram Dass, Leary and Huxley etc…they never really hit that mark the way Terrence did. Archaic revival is a brilliant read if you just take it for what it is. He stood out for a reason and still does. There have been a lot of Mckenna wannabes but it’s all mostly terrible and just awkward to listen to.
If you don’t sound like the writing on a bottle of Bronner’s soap while interacting with the checkout clerk at the grocery store, then it might be time for some 5g in silent darkness.
