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The beauty of not breaking through

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Hello all,

This is my first post. I've been loitering around the Nexus for a month or two now and have learned many many skills and gained much knowledge from member's insights. I thought this would be a good place to start with posting my thoughts.


i'm new to DMT only having used it for around 3 months now. In my first experience with DMT, i was a little naive. I was not fully aware of the dose i took. i was advised to take it all (200mg) on a pipe using the sandwich method. The experience was amazing, i wouldn't know where to begin describing it. from what i have read it was a breakthrough experience. i went into it kinda knowing what i was getting into, but when i was there it was something that i couldn't have never imagined.

Since my first experience with DMT, i did more research and came across the nexus.I have learnt how to extract my own DMT and have had around another 6 trips since my first. However, none of the subsequent trips was as intense as the first and have been sub-BT. I'm thinking that i'm not taking full advantage of my hits and being a bit of a pussy about it.

Although the experiences have been mainly pleasant ones. i've had a couple of uncomfortable experiences after I've had my initial trip. I've rehit the pipe taking smaller hits after coming back and these haven't been so pleasant. I wouldn't consider them bad trips, but they wasn't pleasant. The visuals were slower moving dark shads of purple, grey, black, red and didn't really do much or resemble anything. Its more focused on uncomfortable feelings of emotion and restlessness.

I think i'm having "subs" because my preflight anxiety is not allowing my to go any further into it. I am a calm composed person and think i handle it well but i think it must be something to do with my first big hitting experience which is holding me back.

The sub experiences are good but i feel like i'm cheating and i should be aiming 'higher'.

Thanks fellow travellers.
 
I find it unlikely that you could take 200mg in one hit, and in the event that did happen, I would pity you. 200mg is waaay too much, and whoever told you that must not know much about DMT. I would infuse some of that DMT into herbs to make enhanced leaf, and it will be far easier to consume in that form. When smoking/vaping DMT optimally, 25-35mg on average is enough to send most into dimensions not imaginable.
 
Thanks for the input. I took the 200mg in 3 parts. 3 hits per trip. Since having done a lot more reading, I know this was a bit of a waste and have stuck with smaller doses since. I've not done much research into making changa. I've just got to grips with extracting. I've had 2 successful extractions now and I have a decent supply to experiment with doses and methods of administration. How often do people smoke/vape? I'm finding that I'll go in every 2 weeks for so. Even with sub doses.
 
Hypernaut1111 said:
How often do people smoke/vape?
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Sometimes I will take what I consider a "brain supplement" dose (10 mg or less) as often as daily, sometimes a couple times a day.

I will sometimes do this type of dose daily for days/weeks on end, sometimes just once or twice a week, and sometimes I will go months between, it really depends on if it calls to me, or if I feel particularly wound up and need a reset.

It often really feels like a brain reboot, and I have found it very beneficial.


When I first started down this path, I was in a honeymoon phase where it was couple times a day, every day, for quite a while :)
 
Wow. i had a bit of a social last night. Me and my partner had a friend over for a few drinks and we decided to get the spice out. We dabbled and snorted some small lines to start with. This was interesting, i'd say it was slow releasing and lasted longer. Although i had no vivid hallucinations, the lights, colours and objects in the room were breathing, and we had the warm heavy body sensation.

Me and our friend decided to load some spice into a pipe and pass this between us taking small hits. My friend does not deal with large hits very well. He seems to find it difficult to let go and go with the trip, he tends to get up and pace around. We was smoking steady through the night enjoying the 'body high' and altered state. As the night went on i had a much larger hit and held it in as log as possible. Although i'd still say it was a low does it was still very profound. i burst into an uncontrollable laughter and i felt amazing! i described it as my brain having an orgasm. I can't remember much about the visuals i had, but they defiantly happened. I remember seeing black and white candy canes, it was like i was in a cartoon fairground. Maybe this was why i was laughing so much.

Because my partner was unwilling to smoke the spice, she continued to snort it. Shortly after my trip she began laughing uncontrollably looking around in amazement and awe. Its like it hit her from out of nowhere. She described orange and green diamonds on the walls moving and changing shapes and colours. She didn't know what she was laughing at. she said she enjoyed the experience but got a little scared towards the end because she didn't know when it was going to stop. I'd say it lasted around 5-8 mins.

It was an interesting night to say the least.

So yea, i'm coming to terms a little better with low dose sessions and don't feel as though every time has to be a big hitting BT experience. There is a lot one can gain from these low dose sessions.
 
Hypernaut1111 said:
Me and our friend decided to load some spice into a pipe and pass this between us taking small hits....There is a lot one can gain from these low dose sessions.
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I also really enjoy those long low-dosing sessions!

I am pretty new to dmt and am in a bit of a honeymoon phase currently. I've had a few breakthrough experiences, all profound and beyond words. My last one gave me a scare; it wasn't bad but really shook me to the core.

After that I took a couple days to contemplate. I've been very anxious to breakthrough again, but I've found that taking a bunch of smaller doses has really helped with that. I'll put 20-30 mg in my oil burner and vape it slowly over the course of an hour or two.

The visuals are very mild and it keeps me in this pleasant spice-trance that has allowed me to explore the dmt headspace without fear. I think the next time I decide to try and breakthrough, I will be much better prepared because of these low-dose experiences :)
 
In todays early morning hours I took 25 mg DMT. One single hit, I kept the smoke in my lungs for 23 seconds and after that nothing happend for about 15 seconds.

But then the visuals came with a mind blowing speed and there was this magnificent sub break through experience. It was on the verge of knowing you are aware of lying on the couch or being launched.

But I am surprised. This trip is one of nine sequent ones with a strong ancient China influence. The scenery, the atmosphere, the cartoon like women, the colors, the ships, temples, in fact everything.

What are your experiences? Are you folks also confronted with trips that have the same patterns as background?
 
Mine are generally very very abstract in every way.

However on a couple occasions I have had a very distinct South American jungle type of feel to it, and on one occasion an unmistakable ancient Egyptian theme all around, including visions of Ra holding an incredibly bright object with out stretched arms, I interpreted this to be the gift of DMT itself.
 
yo fur,

I did the same for a long while, as I had a lot a lot of spice at my disposal for a long period of time. Multiple small trips per day seemed to be more easily/quickly integratible than the odd deep trip. Recently revisited the spice with a small, 10mg or so dose, after about 7 months since my last heavy experience, which was still a sub breakthrough. Had about 200mg of extremely professionally extracted deemster leftover from 1.5ish years beforehand. Split it with my friend, not caring to weigh each individual dose, we just split it down the middle of the pile in the index card I had made it portable to the nature spot in. We each took two hits and it became too much to try to hit our bowls a third time, but I did not break through. Very south american plant-ish, with this incomprehensible 'non-existent' colour mass pattern mandala in the center of my vision that I literally cannot recall because of its various sheens, reflections, angles, it must have been the doorway, and the death of my venture was of astonishment at the mere doorway to hyperspace. The trees were all ornate, gold with purple leaves, seemingly far off in the distance, surrounding 360 degrees of this doorway. Wish I had taken that third hit. Probably the most intense experience of my life
 
Your description of the south american feel is very reminiscent of my own experiences.

I often get a strange South American style bright pastel colored, thick lined, mandala effect, red/purple and yellow are the prominent colors for me usually in that mandala pattern.

Also when it takes this South American feel, and is a strongish near breakthrough level (but not quite) dose, I often have a sense of some kind of jungle shaman presence that is usually looking over me kind of in a "taking care of you" way. Often obscured behind what seems like leaves or perhaps just part of the mandala pattern. Often when it is particularly intense.

I can't really see the entity in detail, its more of like a feeling of its presence behind the confusion.
 
speakinwhispers said:
Hypernaut1111 said:
Me and our friend decided to load some spice into a pipe and pass this between us taking small hits....There is a lot one can gain from these low dose sessions.
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I also really enjoy those long low-dosing sessions!

I am pretty new to dmt and am in a bit of a honeymoon phase currently. I've had a few breakthrough experiences, all profound and beyond words. My last one gave me a scare; it wasn't bad but really shook me to the core.

After that I took a couple days to contemplate. I've been very anxious to breakthrough again, but I've found that taking a bunch of smaller doses has really helped with that. I'll put 20-30 mg in my oil burner and vape it slowly over the course of an hour or two.

The visuals are very mild and it keeps me in this pleasant spice-trance that has allowed me to explore the dmt headspace without fear. I think the next time I decide to try and breakthrough, I will be much better prepared because of these low-dose experiences :)
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Your experiences with spice are pretty much identical to mine... I didn't measure the dose (now that i have a scale it was probably around 50mg) and i did it on a dab rig and it blew my brains all over the wall:shock: haha so needless to say i was nervous/anxious about breaking through again so i proceeded to take a cpl spaced out smaller hits (~10mg per hit) and it Greatly eased my pre-flight anxiety and i was able to go ahead and administer a breakthrough dose...
 
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