The paradox of significance

[Philosopher]

Inevitably every time I have a psychedelic experience my perspective on how significant we really are, changes immensely. On mushrooms I realized that in the scheme of al that is, if the earth did not exist, to the cosmos it would be as unnoticeable as a compound decomposing from single atoms. While on dmt I realized the same thing sometimes, last time I went micro. I learned the importance of each and every quantum piece of matter, which make up atoms and cells, living and nonliving. Without these ever occurring law abiding molecules we would never be. Neither would anything, for that matter.

I feel in my life as if this is what matters, what job I attain, my relationships, and my morals. But the paradox of significance is an infinite one. If a person sees more, they realize their insignificance. If one sees less they realize their significance. But if they have experiences both? They are placed on a continuum of importance, one can see their place in the homeostatic universe.

When I used mushrooms last I came to the thought that if I died, would everything cease to exist? It was so compelling that I thought for a moment of a suicidal experiment. It was just fleeting thought, I realized immediately the implications of this expire meant. Therefor it is an even bigger mystery. It forget which philosopher said this, but it rang true in my trip. " the only true philosophical question, is wether or not to kill yourself". This may seem bleak and morbid to our everyday perspective, but it was so thrilling to imagine how my consciousness could possibly be responsible for the construction of all matter.

Psychedelics have really changed my perspective on what is really important. I conclude, everything is significant. From the smallest ant to a distant galaxy's sun millions of light years away. The illusion is one of limited consciousness. What we see, seems the most significant. But that does not have any real merit in the perspective of all of reality.

 

[Korey]

When I was taking LSD weekly for about a year I started to naively believe that everythIng I experienced was a projection of my mind, yet those projections were also projecting me. I started to think going kind of crazy was fun, that's how influenced I was by the frequent experiences.

I'm glad I have my critical thinking back now.


Sure it's significant, still meaningless. I stand in awe of our and the universe's arbitraryness.

 

[۩]

The universe would not be arbitrary if it was used for energy harvesting, data mining, or possibility generating purposes among other things which can not be conceived.

Then there's the possibility the universe doesn't even exist at all.

Significance goes both ways and nowhere. We create significance. We are just as significant as we are not. This goes for anything we think exists.

I think spreading the word about our possibilities and the light that shines through our souls is significant. There are many who would argue I am wasting my time while I am having the time of my life.

 

[DeDao]

I think House is right when he says it's mostly in your mind.

The physical realm might be "outside" of us and other humans and creatures have minds of their own. BUT, we create the attachments to them. Labeling them, naming them, judging them. That surely is in our minds.

Fun topic. Tricky one though. :thumb_up:

 

[Archtypamine]

Inevitably every time I have a psychedelic experience my perspective on how significant we really are, changes immensely. On mushrooms I realized that in the scheme of al that is, if the earth did not exist, to the cosmos it would be as unnoticeable as a compound decomposing from single atoms. While on dmt I realized the same thing sometimes, last time I went micro. I learned the importance of each and every quantum piece of matter, which make up atoms and cells, living and nonliving. Without these ever occurring law abiding molecules we would never be. Neither would anything, for that matter.

I feel in my life as if this is what matters, what job I attain, my relationships, and my morals. But the paradox of significance is an infinite one. If a person sees more, they realize their insignificance. If one sees less they realize their significance. But if they have experiences both? They are placed on a continuum of importance, one can see their place in the homeostatic universe.

When I used mushrooms last I came to the thought that if I died, would everything cease to exist? It was so compelling that I thought for a moment of a suicidal experiment. It was just fleeting thought, I realized immediately the implications of this expire meant. Therefor it is an even bigger mystery. It forget which philosopher said this, but it rang true in my trip. " the only true philosophical question, is wether or not to kill yourself". This may seem bleak and morbid to our everyday perspective, but it was so thrilling to imagine how my consciousness could possibly be responsible for the construction of all matter.

Psychedelics have really changed my perspective on what is really important. I conclude, everything is significant. From the smallest ant to a distant galaxy's sun millions of light years away. The illusion is one of limited consciousness. What we see, seems the most significant. But that does not have any real merit in the perspective of all of reality.

Philosophy of suicide - Wikipedia

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[Jin]

anyways people don't kill yourselves , no matter what

if you're dead then you'll not be able to smoke anymore dmt , also as life is a trip if you like tripping there is no need to cut it short or abort

infact the truth of the matter is if you don't like tripping , you might not trip again
and if you don't like living then you might not live again so.........

love life , love tripping , and even if both of them turn out to be a little strong , just enjoy it ......that is what i do

i believe its a strong man who can party and enjoy himself , even if the whole world is going down , my wish is we all should have fun and enjoy ourselves even beyond the end of times , let us dance and have fun throught eternity and drop all these negative thoughts that keep us from enjoying life

enjoy the moment ..........each and every moment ,

 

[DeDao]

Jin, comparing tripping and life. Wise one he is. :lol:

 

[hixidom]

Seeing more does not make me feel insignificant. The way I see it, I am affected by everything I experience, and so everything I experience becomes a part of me, and by providing awareness, understanding, and interpretation, I contribute to an otherwise meaningless reality. I would say that, in a way, reality exists, so that we can perceive and enjoy it. I mean that in an anthropic-principle sort of way. We bear witness to something beautiful, and it is a something that would not be "beautiful" if we did not bear witness to it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...I guess that's what I'm getting at.

 

[anon_003]

I think significance is purely subjective. Individuals are the ones who attach significance to things. But in terms of the whole, macro to micro, all things affect one another, as you all are aware. I personally think that while everything is significant in the cosmos unraveling/transforming in the infinitely defined way it is, nothing other than the whole is more significant than any other part. I feel this way because no matter how you slice it, you will still have the sum of parts affecting and influencing each other, at any sort of scale, however miniscule the influence.