..i’ll make a few notes, now that this thread has reached an unprecedented number of views..(a lot more people read than write)..keep the good information coming in..acacias are important to the future of humanity, and environments, for a few reasons..
there are all sorts of things going on out there in the wider acacia world since this thread..african and middle eastern species like A. nilotica are being utilised as entheogens by people; some american specie seem to be getting some overdue experimental attention now; and shadowy and mysterious ‘research’ institutes (with equally shadowy funding) are doing experiments with acacia ‘elixirs’ and dmt ‘tests’ with acacias..hmm
the thread was originally a humble attempt to get people to stop abusing and misusing a few very under threat and traumatised in the wild species, by offering more common alternatives; to encourage growing and sustainable approaches; and to bring awareness that the acacia is a unique and indeed sacred family of plant medicines that should not be treated at as ‘dmt’ sources, or casually exchanged for ‘ayahuasca’ (a completely different pair of plants, including in character and content, and tradition)..much of the disrespect and abuse of acacias came about after the rise in popularity of ‘changa’, which served some as both a means of commercial distribution, and also completely obscures the actual plant which is giving most of the insight - often in aus an acacia
..some good things have come out of the thread, especially a huge increase in the growing of different species, and their appreciation in general..however there are still some not great things that have happened..there has been in increase in the abuse of A. acuminata in the wild, and also some people trying to give other people this tree as ‘ayahuasca’, with very little experience, and certainly very little knowledge of the parameters of acacia, especially toxicologically, as well as spiritually..
..there are some key major points i’d like to make about acacias -
firstly, that, being very diverse in complex chemistry (beyond alkaloids), they are highly important in medicinal uses in general, both traditionally and in modern research (there’s much info in the thread)..there is an inherent danger that the constant attention given to them for simply dmt will bring unwanted negative attention to their ongoing medicinal use and research (for a wide range of physical conditions), and i encourage awareness of this diversity within acacias..
it can also be overlooked (including by regulating authorities) that dmt and other tryptamine may and probably do have simply physical therapeutic use, with the entheogenic effects being a ‘side-effect’ of higher dose..there was recent research suggesting dmt as an example may physically be an immune system regulator..
secondly, in a number of cultures around the world acacias are a highly sacred and culturally important tree..in this modern age we increasingly lose any meaning or understanding of what the word sacred means..but the metaphor i sometimes use in talks is how would you treat your grandmother, or friends, or want them to be treated..
also, i have chosen in the thread to ignore the re-naming a few years back of African, Asian and American species (to Vachellia, Senegalia etc) for the same reason a number of key botanists objected to this at the very international meeting where this was voted for..the cultural and historic importance of the name acacia, especially in Africa and the middle-east..also, ‘acacia’ means ‘thorns’, and the species with thorns are primarily here, not in Australia..
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i had mostly retired from posting much here, partly out of meditating on the consequences of information (as someone once said: ‘a little knowledge is dangerous’ ) ..and also to finish writing a book of the acacia..much of the delay has been in deciding what to say and what not to..but also it was time to pull back from the net a bit as really, for all the information in here, the thread and ‘nen888’ are still a mask..a mask for deeper knowledge, experience and understanding of the acacia tree..
the book can go a little bit deeper into this..though some things will always be oral tradition
for so many reasons we are fortunate to have the acacia tree in the world, an so many other forms of life rely on them other than humans..as said a while back in the thread they are a ‘total tree’ - medicine, food, building, soil and environmental restoration, and an aesthetic as well as sacred resonance..
thank you to all who have shared here, and grown and looked after and honoured the trees..
and gratitude and respect, of lifetimes, to the trees, for all that they do!!
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please be kind to trees...
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there are all sorts of things going on out there in the wider acacia world since this thread..african and middle eastern species like A. nilotica are being utilised as entheogens by people; some american specie seem to be getting some overdue experimental attention now; and shadowy and mysterious ‘research’ institutes (with equally shadowy funding) are doing experiments with acacia ‘elixirs’ and dmt ‘tests’ with acacias..hmm
the thread was originally a humble attempt to get people to stop abusing and misusing a few very under threat and traumatised in the wild species, by offering more common alternatives; to encourage growing and sustainable approaches; and to bring awareness that the acacia is a unique and indeed sacred family of plant medicines that should not be treated at as ‘dmt’ sources, or casually exchanged for ‘ayahuasca’ (a completely different pair of plants, including in character and content, and tradition)..much of the disrespect and abuse of acacias came about after the rise in popularity of ‘changa’, which served some as both a means of commercial distribution, and also completely obscures the actual plant which is giving most of the insight - often in aus an acacia
..some good things have come out of the thread, especially a huge increase in the growing of different species, and their appreciation in general..however there are still some not great things that have happened..there has been in increase in the abuse of A. acuminata in the wild, and also some people trying to give other people this tree as ‘ayahuasca’, with very little experience, and certainly very little knowledge of the parameters of acacia, especially toxicologically, as well as spiritually..
..there are some key major points i’d like to make about acacias -
firstly, that, being very diverse in complex chemistry (beyond alkaloids), they are highly important in medicinal uses in general, both traditionally and in modern research (there’s much info in the thread)..there is an inherent danger that the constant attention given to them for simply dmt will bring unwanted negative attention to their ongoing medicinal use and research (for a wide range of physical conditions), and i encourage awareness of this diversity within acacias..
it can also be overlooked (including by regulating authorities) that dmt and other tryptamine may and probably do have simply physical therapeutic use, with the entheogenic effects being a ‘side-effect’ of higher dose..there was recent research suggesting dmt as an example may physically be an immune system regulator..
secondly, in a number of cultures around the world acacias are a highly sacred and culturally important tree..in this modern age we increasingly lose any meaning or understanding of what the word sacred means..but the metaphor i sometimes use in talks is how would you treat your grandmother, or friends, or want them to be treated..
also, i have chosen in the thread to ignore the re-naming a few years back of African, Asian and American species (to Vachellia, Senegalia etc) for the same reason a number of key botanists objected to this at the very international meeting where this was voted for..the cultural and historic importance of the name acacia, especially in Africa and the middle-east..also, ‘acacia’ means ‘thorns’, and the species with thorns are primarily here, not in Australia..
.
i had mostly retired from posting much here, partly out of meditating on the consequences of information (as someone once said: ‘a little knowledge is dangerous’ ) ..and also to finish writing a book of the acacia..much of the delay has been in deciding what to say and what not to..but also it was time to pull back from the net a bit as really, for all the information in here, the thread and ‘nen888’ are still a mask..a mask for deeper knowledge, experience and understanding of the acacia tree..
the book can go a little bit deeper into this..though some things will always be oral tradition
for so many reasons we are fortunate to have the acacia tree in the world, an so many other forms of life rely on them other than humans..as said a while back in the thread they are a ‘total tree’ - medicine, food, building, soil and environmental restoration, and an aesthetic as well as sacred resonance..
thank you to all who have shared here, and grown and looked after and honoured the trees..
and gratitude and respect, of lifetimes, to the trees, for all that they do!!
.
please be kind to trees...
.
are you able to point me in the right direction of field testing these acacias is the cheapest method , I don’t currently have $150 for a TLC kit atm but would to get one in the future They seem very handy for testing of other drugs ect , including the shitty drugs that our town acquires! The only reason I seek DMT is because 1. Almost impossible to find unless you goto a high quality rave/doof were you may find someone , 2. I have had great experiences with my depression with mushrooms and dmt . because of my SSRI antii depressant I cant take molly anymore , and acid is just as hard to find as dmt , our town is being flooding with dirty drugs , ice , synthetics ect, 3. The mushrooms told me I should do this for my self and my friends and family , I may not be able to save everyone from the crappy drugs but I can save my self and friends ! 4. When I am hullicinating there is no greater pleasure knowing you can have your own supply for when ever you want .
