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Valerian root promoter of dreams!

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Not shure what you mean in above post...but i was talking about its use for.... inhanced sleep.... and its effects on ....dreaming...
Where I am, there are high-dosed tablets, with 3-4 times the dose of the lower dose ones. I prefer the latter because taking five of them instead of the usual four is more viable than taking two of the stronger ones. Furthermore, I sometimes get away with taking three but always have the option of a fourth if three wasn't cutting it. More flexibility, quite simply.

The low dose tablets contain 150mg of a 5.3-6.6:1dried extract of valerian root, made using 45% w/w methanol. I suspect the variation in the proportion depends on the amount of soluble matter in each batch of valerian root. Unfortunately no comment is made on the valerenic acid content, but this could be part of the manufacturer's standardisation procedure.

When I've taken a higher than usual dose of this stuff, I've woken up in the night feeling surprisingly high, enough so that I couldn't feel annoyed at having my sleep disturbed. It took me a moment or two to work out what the hypnagogic state combined with physical and mental euphoria was all about (and to work out whether I'd be capable of standing up and walking to the bathroom).

I'm also uncertain of the contribution from my bedtime mixed herbal tea, which I've subsequently found to enhance cannabis.
 
I suffer from night terrors almost every time I fall asleep long enough to dream. Was thinking about using things like this to maybe " open it up and rewire it " in a sense . I can usually fall asleep but staying asleep is the problem.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? What helped?

Thinking of making a concoction of :

Valerian
Kava
Passionflower
Lemon balm
Chamomile
Blue lotus

To drink before I try to sleep...
 
I suffer from night terrors almost every time I fall asleep long enough to dream. Was thinking about using things like this to maybe " open it up and rewire it " in a sense . I can usually fall asleep but staying asleep is the problem.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? What helped?

Thinking of making a concoction of :

Valerian
Kava
Passionflower
Lemon balm
Chamomile
Blue lotus

To drink before I try to sleep...
Sounds like a promising herbal palette to work with. Do you have experience of using each of these herbs individually?

Mugwort is well-regarded as a dreaming herb, with a strong tendency to bring a positive vibe to dreaming. Even a bunch of it near ones bed will influence dreams, making it beyond easy to use.
 
Sounds like a promising herbal palette to work with. Do you have experience of using each of these herbs individually?

Mugwort is well-regarded as a dreaming herb, with a strong tendency to bring a positive vibe to dreaming. Even a bunch of it near ones bed will influence dreams, making it beyond easy to use.
Yes these ive tested and enjoyed so im not hesitant to try again. Haven't played wth mugwort before.
 
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The leagle sleep inhancer valerian ... pictured on post 16...is a leagle over the counter sleep aid ....that is the highest ... lab quality ... valerian ive ever found.... it has a very high

amount of valerenic acid ..1 percent per tablet..

valerenic acid is psychoactive !

its made in a lab using modern extraction methods...

On only one tablet..ive woken up at two or three in morning..in my dream body ... i got up steping out of my sleeping physical body ...

I then levetated through the roof high into the sky...like a baloon ..i sailed around the world looking down at forests...lakes...oceans ...mountains..citys..towns..

i have only taken one whole tablet once.......[one tablet will make you somewhat groogy].....most of the time i was taking 1/4 of a tablet just as a sleep enhancer...thats how much respect i have for valerians power...




just a little added info......

an old pagen beliefe about valerian was........Valerian is rooted in the Earth ........and rooted in the sky...



In old pagan traditions and historical folklore, valerian root was a multi-purpose herb valued for its perceived power to bridge the gap between physical and spiritual realms.


Spiritual Protection and Wardings
Valerian was widely believed to repel negative energies, spirits, and even "witches" (in later folk-magic contexts).
  • Warding Off Evil: Ancient Greeks hung bunches of valerian in windows to repel malevolent forces.
  • Protection for the Home: Celts hung the herb to protect their homes from lightning strikes.
  • Anti-Malevolence: In medieval Europe, it was hung in doorways to guard against harmful spirits and placed under pillows to prevent nightmares.
  • Conflict Resolution: Some believed that tossing valerian into the middle of a fight would cause the participants to stop fighting immediately.

Mythology and Magic
The herb's effects on the nervous system were often interpreted through a mythological lens.
  • The Stag of Hertha: In Nordic lore, the goddess Hertha was said to use valerian on her riding crop to make her stag run faster. Her stag's bridle was made of hops, and the combination of these two calming/sedative herbs was thought to help shamans and "witches" transition between the waking world and the spirit realm.
  • Love and Connection: Carrying the root in a sachet or "mojo bag" was believed to attract love and strengthen affection between individuals.
  • Graveyard Dust: In darker magical lore, the powdered root was sometimes called "graveyard dust" and used in hexing or potent counter-magic rituals.

Ancient traditions, particularly those influenced by figures like Hildegard of Bingen, saw Valerian root as embodying both earthly and celestial connections, with its sturdy, grounding roots connecting to the earth and its light-filled flowers reaching for the sky, symbolizing balance between the physical and spiritual realms, making it a plant for deep rest and intuition, rooted in earth but connected to dreams and spirit.
The Concept Explained
  • "Rooted in the Earth, Rooted in the Sky": This idea reflects the plant's dual nature: its strong, anchoring roots provide grounding (earth), while its delicate flowers and growth pattern reach towards the light (sky).
  • Balance: This duality symbolizes harmony, bringing together the physical world (sleep, grounding) with the spiritual or subconscious (dreams, intuition, calming the mind).
Who Believed This?
  • Hildegard of Bingen (Medieval Mystic/Healer): While not a specific "ancient people," this concept is often linked to her holistic view of herbalism, described by scholars as "Rooted in the Earth, Rooted in the Sky," a description applied to Valerian's form.
  • Medieval German Folklore: Tales suggest Valerian could soothe disputes, planting it between houses to encourage harmony, tying it to peaceful coexistence.
  • General European Traditions: Valerian was used for protection, warding off evil spirits, and promoting peace, linking its earthly scent and power to spiritual benefit.
Key Associations
  • Grounding & Stability: The roots offer physical anchoring and calm anxiety, drawing energy from the earth.
  • Dreams & Intuition: The upper part connects to the mind, dreams, and spiritual journeys, helping to navigate the nocturnal world.
 
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