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VG VaporGenie: How to use, where to get, advantages, etc

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Hiya, I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if I'm repeating a question. Three things about the GVG:

1. I'm worried that it's so fragile - in all my DMT trips I don't even remember the moment I've exhaled, so is there a possibility to drop it, lay on it and break it?
2. Why isn't it suitable for group use?
3. It will be hard for me to find a copper scrubber in my town, can't I just use some herbs?
 
autumnsphere said:
Hiya, I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if I'm repeating a question. Two things about the GVG:

1. I'm worried that it's so fragile - in all my DMT trips I don't even remember the moment I've exhaled, so is there a possibility to drop it, lay on it and break it?
2. Why isn't it suitable for group use?
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As fragile as any glass.

Give it only to those who know hyperspace and how to handle the pipe out there.

After using it, put it immediately next to you or keep it in your hands.
 
Well, I tend to move during trips - fetal position and whatnot - so how can I be sure I won't break it? And... how can I be sure I'll be able to place it next to me?
 
(Tele and Dragonaut000: thanks for your replies)

Autumnsphere: The way I have been doing it (but you also should note that I am a beginner here) is the following. I smoke DMT while lying in my bed. There I "measure" s spot on my bed, as far as I can reach with my right hand comfortably, and I put a large towel there. Then I hit the pipe/bong. As soon as I suspect that I will soon lose my cognizance of "this" world, I simply close my eyes, lean back, and with my right hand I deliver the pipe/bong to the safe spot on the towel.

I developed this primitive method in order to minimize possible accidents, burns, or smashing of my smoking apparatus. The purpose of the towel is that it will absorb potential leaks and heat from the smoking device so that I don´t accidently burn my bed in case the bong/pipe topples over etc...

I know this is a kind of primitive method of minimizing risks, but it has worked for me so far...
 
My bed is small, and I'm afraid I'll just lay on top of the pipe. But I have a bedside table, we'll see... I just don't wanna smash the divine apparatus, hehe.
 
I don´t want to push you to adopt my method of ingestion...

...but you could also lie on the floor, using mattress, cushions and pillows to make yourself as comfortable as desired 😉
 
autumnsphere said:
My bed is small, and I'm afraid I'll just lay on top of the pipe. But I have a bedside table, we'll see... I just don't wanna smash the divine apparatus, hehe.
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Right, what you wanna do is this.....

Rig up an elaborate pulley and lever system that culminates in a string/wire which you can attach to the back of your head via a stylish headband.

Set it up so that your GVG is lowered to a convieniant smoking position when you are sat up in your bed. Now you can take an enourmous toke and collapse backwards onto some pre-positioned pillows and take your journey.

As you fall backwards the pulley system will raise your precious GVG up to a safe level away from any movements you might make while wrestling with the infinte madness of existence.

Now, when you drop back into the room and want to take another hit all you have to do is sit up and this will lower the GVG back down to toking height and you will be ready to go.

simple:p

or you could just place it down on your bed side table
 
:d

Like Charlie Chaplin´s "Modern Times" (at about 0:12:00):

I can clearly envision 3rdI´s model here...

...Or here, perhaps even better:
 
Spot on, only mines a little more ceiling based. I've also got a set up in my kitchen that makes changa with only the pull of a lever
 
I also have one in the back room that removes hens teeth.

And another in the garage that polishes unicorn horns

:lol:
 
Is there any possibility to get only the ceramic GVG filter element or a 1:1 substitute?

I could get a pipe in the same exact style handcrafted for much less money than a GVG including shipping to Europe and customs handling / taxes would cost me which is extremely upsetting. Having no wholesaler for Europe for those specific glass products (while the usual VaporGenies are widely available) is nothing I generally want to support if it is avoidable even if the public opinion towards the product is pretty clear.
 
hey guys,

i finally went out and got myself a VG. The place I got it from was out of screens at the moment so i put a small amount of weed underneath the dmt, i sprinkled probably 20 mgs on top and held my lighter over the top. I noticed it has a very deep tunnel before it hits the ceramic. I held it over the top a few cms and didnt feel a thing, not even a rush. So i pulled the flame a little further in and was noticing that i was getting vapor but it was nothing close to the rush of hitting the dmt by freebase. I'm wondering if im doing something wrong?
 
It may take a few goes to get technique down and find the right flame position and inhalation speed for you.

Personally I have the flame (jet lighter, Turboflame Arc) touching the ceramic. I warm the block for a fraction of a second before starting to inhale. Inhaling faster will reduce the temperature (more cool air being pulled in).

What kind of lighter are you using?
 
giver of will said:
hey guys,

i finally went out and got myself a VG. The place I got it from was out of screens at the moment so i put a small amount of weed underneath the dmt, i sprinkled probably 20 mgs on top and held my lighter over the top. I noticed it has a very deep tunnel before it hits the ceramic. I held it over the top a few cms and didnt feel a thing, not even a rush. So i pulled the flame a little further in and was noticing that i was getting vapor but it was nothing close to the rush of hitting the dmt by freebase. I'm wondering if im doing something wrong?
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Screen is very important, research the matter in this very topic.
 
Ok, so I tried vaping some DMT in my GVG and I had some problems. I made the little copper pad thing and put the dmt on top of it. I then put the flame(turboarc torch) pretty much into the bowl and I saw all the dmt just melt and go right thru the copper pad. I then started inhaling as fast as I can and I held what little vapor there was for about 10 seconds. I then exhaled and didn't really see any vapor come out. I then layed down and closed my eyes and got some light CEV's for about 2 minutes.

I'm guessing that I put the flame to far into the bowl to fast and the DMT got to hot to fast and just melted? Should I keep the flame farther away from the bowl and let it heat up slowly?

Thoughts on this please. I don't want to waste anymore spice.
 
Don't inhale as fast as possible, try to take a nice long slow toke. If you pull to fast you are pulling a lot of air through.
 
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