Want to break through but always get scared.

[Trippyguyy96]

So I have some white crystal dmt . And I really wanna have a break through but I can't ever push myself to get past the second hit. I just get so disoriented and I just can't find it in me to force myself to keep going. And advice here? Anyone else have this problem?

 

[TheGreenPhantom]

Take it slow. Get used to the head-space. When you're ready for more, it'll happen. There's no rush.

I usually just lye in bed for about 5 minutes before blast-off to get my anxieties settled. Focus on nothing. Let go of my concerns. And then—

 

[brettsta]

So I have some white crystal dmt . And I really wanna have a break through but I can't ever push myself to get

Everyone has that problem, even the seasoned veterans at times , myself included.
Many DMT users never get there , they stay in the periphery of DMT , the in-between world , and never get to see the main event .

Like I tell myself, stop being a pussy and get on with it !! , The fear is only an illusion, it can't hurt you
Good trip or bad , your be back perfectly fine either way .

I deep breath for 15 min in silence, it definitely helps , and this is important, when you take second hit ,
don't linger, don't hang around , exhale and quickly get on with the next , without getting sidetracked or caught in the moment .

And remember as long as your in a safe environment , your ok .
And if it does get a bit heavy , just concentrate on your breathing.

And one more thing , in my experience 95% of breakthroughs end in the most incredible experience of love.

 

[northape]

A breakthrough is overrated, imo. Just work with the medicine, and it'll happen at some point. Chasing the dragon leaves you stuck in the chase itself.
Work on your fears, open yourself to the state, and everything will come in due time. Safe travels.

 

[Trippyguyy96]

Take it slow. Get used to the head-space. When you're ready for more, it'll happen. There's no rush.

I usually just lye in bed for about 5 minutes before blast-off to get my anxieties settled. Focus on nothing. Let go of my concerns. And then—

I have kind of noticed that I'm more able to handle it if I do a big first or second hit and let myself come down from that then try again after it. Idk it's always like the first one of the day is stupid Intense.

 

[Trippyguyy96]

I have kind of noticed that I'm more able to handle it if I do a big first or second hit and let myself come down from that then try again after it. Idk it's always like the first one of the day is stupid Intense.

Still haven't broke through tho. I'm gonna probably try again today. This stuff I made from mimosa is so much different from the other kind iv tried that was sticky stuff from acacia confusa. This stuff like hit me like a freight train lol

 

[northape]

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Hi all,

EDIT: apologies, I just realised that the thread title doesn't accurately reflect the body of the thread! I'm happy to focus on the anxiety part of vaping DMT, but I'd also love to hear the broader context of you experience, and I have sketched a few motivation questions for that below

I'm new to DMT, I've only had a handful of mild experiences and I have a few questions for those of you who are more experienced.

I would like to learn about your relationship with DMT. More specifically, I'm talking about freebase DMT, not harmala mixes.

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[Trippyguyy96]

Everyone has that problem, even the seasoned veterans at times , myself included.
Many DMT users never get there , they stay in the periphery of DMT , the in-between world , and never get to see the main event .

Like I tell myself, stop being a pussy and get on with it !! , The fear is only an illusion, it can't hurt you
Good trip or bad , your be back perfectly fine either way .

I deep breath for 15 min in silence, it definitely helps , and this is important, when you take second hit ,
don't linger, don't hang around , exhale and quickly get on with the next , without getting sidetracked or caught in the moment .

And remember as long as your in a safe environment , your ok .
And if it does get a bit heavy , just concentrate on your breathing.

And one more thing , in my experience 95% of breakthroughs end in the most incredible experience of love.

So once you do breakthrough does the whole being disoriented go away? Part of me thinks I get like that bc my subconscious is still present in reality and I can feel reality trying to be ripped away. Im hoping maybe once I go all the way it won't be like a nerve wracking in between place. If that makes any sense.

 

[froggydays]

For breakthrough you can best use freebase I think, with vape to hold in so many tokes can be a bit uncomfortable imo.

If you breakthrough you won't be aware of your body or surroundings anymore so there is no "disorientation" possible in that sense.

As such you will really need to be lying down as mentioned above.

Anyway, it can be very scary as you said but at a certain point there is no going back...

 

[brettsta]

A breakthrough is overrated, imo. Just work with the medicine, and it'll happen at some point. Chasing the dragon leaves you

Overated ? That depends on what you mean by breakthrough , yes I've had a few mild ones, but if we mean breakthrough as being fully immersed deep within the Realm , then no it certainly is not overated , more underrated, what I / we have experienced is the impossible, and we haven't even come close to the full glory splendor of that place and I say that place as a separate place to my reality? Because I feel maybe it is ?
When I'm there I get a distinct feeling we all existing in the same place at the same time . Just on a different frequency. We will never know for sure , and I'm ok with that .

 

[northape]

Overated ? That depends on what you mean by breakthrough , yes I've had a few mild ones, but if we mean breakthrough as being fully immersed deep within the Realm , then no it certainly is not overated , more underrated, what I / we have experienced is the impossible, and we haven't even come close to the full glory splendor of that place and I say that place as a separate place to my reality? Because I feel maybe it is ?
When I'm there I get a distinct feeling we all existing in the same place at the same time . Just on a different frequency. We will never know for sure , and I'm ok with that .

Oh, I agree with you, but you've missed the vibe of my post. Our young friend is set on achieving some kind of breakthrough he knows nothing about.
I used words in an attempt to bring him back to a much saner approach to this medicine. It's not like a breakthrough is not available to him, but chasing it is counterproductive.
Better to let the Universe decide when you're ready. He'll see what he needs to see when the time is ripe. Let's not be too stuck on concepts, but think of the bigger picture here.

 

[brettsta]

So once you do breakthrough does the whole being disoriented go away? Part of me thinks I get like that bc my subconscious is still present in reality and I can feel reality trying to be ripped away. Im hoping maybe once I go all the way it won't be like a nerve wracking in between place. If that makes any sense

Yes but not always , Often you will breakthrough perfectly normal and sound minded no disorientation,
But sometimes I won't lie, it can be a proper mind fuk , the secret to DMT is taking the positive with he negative,
When you can handle the negatives whatever it throws at you , your all good

 

[northape]

When you can handle the negatives whatever it throws at you , your all good

And here is exactly what I was worried about. It sounds good to you because you have some experience under your belt.
Some trips are so devastating that they can break an unprepared mind. It's much better to go slow and adapt over time, ime.
Peace

 

[brettsta]

Oh, I agree with you, but you've missed the vibe of my post. Our young friend is set on achieving some kind of breakthrough he knows nothing about.
I used words in an attempt to bring him back to a much saner approach to this medicine. It's not like a breakthrough is not available to him, but chasing it is counterproductive.
Better to let the Universe decide when you're ready. He'll see what he needs to see when the time is ripe. Let's not be too stuck on concepts, but think of the bigger picture here.

Yes I totally get that , I do tend to say it as it is ! ,and I'm not use to being around those new to the spice ,
Noted

 

[northape]

Yes I totally get that , I do tend to say it as it is ! ,and I'm not use to being around those new to the spice ,
Noted

No worries. I just don't want to see another guy who comes back a week later with a heartbreaking story to tell.
I see your forward approach to sharing, and it's all good. Someone needs to play the role of a devil's advocate here, too

 

[Trippyguyy96]

Yes but not always , Often you will breakthrough perfectly normal and sound minded no disorientation,
But sometimes I won't lie, it can be a proper mind fuk , the secret to DMT is taking the positive with he negative,
When you can handle the negatives whatever it throws at you , your all good

Yea that's good to here. It's the in between part that gets me. It's so hard to try and let go of reality as the only reality you've ever known is being torn from you. I wish I could just do it all in one big puff or something. No matter what I tell myself I always end up tapping out on the second hit

 

[brettsta]

No worries. I just don't want to see another guy who comes back a week later with a heartbreaking story to tell.
I see your forward approach to sharing, and it's all good. Someone needs to play the role of a devil's advocate here, too

Since 2013 I imagine you've seen a lot , I see you have a very important role to play on here , the voice of reason

 

[brettsta]

Yea that's good to here. It's the in between part that gets me. It's so hard to try and let go of reality as the only reality you've ever known is being torn from you. I wish I could just do it all in one big puff or something. No matter what I tell myself I always end up tapping out on the second hit

Its taken me years getting use to the breakthrough, and even then , I'm the same as you , I've been struggling lately with the fear . Cross that breakthrough bridge later sometime , and enjoy it as it is , and try it outside in the woods with friends, its amazing.

 

[northape]

Since 2013 I imagine you've seen a lot , I see you have a very important role to play on here , the voice of reason

Yes, I've seen my share. Even with all the experience, a single journey can get so deep that it breaks you. So, I've become kind of cautious.
I don't know about being a voice of reason, but I try to approach this medicine in a long-term fashion. You don't need to hurry to the other side; it comes to all of us.

 

[Trippyguyy96]

Thank you everyone. I'm gonna try it in a dark room and with my eyes closed. I think it was the sudden, extreme visuals are what got me. And I felt that dizzy feeling you get if you've ever hung upside down or laid on your back on your bed with your head hanging off upside down and you suddenly sit up really fast that rush of dizziness, Kind of like a hardcore rollercoaster drop, just really overwhelming .Lol Im not doing it any justice but Im gonna take it slow and eventually get there, hopefully. I got plenty of mimosa to make more so I'm not on a time crunch to do it before what I have starts to turn sludgy.Almost outta naptha tho.