Weird side effect of changa + LSD

[Fancy_pants]

So I smoked some Changa while high on LSD.

About 5mins into the trip, the dmt style visuals slowed down and then everything started to go dark and slimy. My vision melted and everything I looked at just drooped down into greeny black sludge. There was a dark haze and my sense of colour was quite diminished - as if the contrast was turned right down so everything was a bit grey. It was gross and a bit scary. Never experienced anything like it. I rested and things came back to normal after about 20mins.

I smoked the same Changa again a few weeks later (without lsd). The same thing happened but with less intensity. Halfway through the trip everything started to go a bit wonky and oily and murky with less colour intensity.

What is this?

I put the first experience down to stress on my nervous system and visual cortex. But with the second, I am wondering if maybe the IPA hasn't fully evaporated out.

Has anyone ever experienced this before? Any insights?

 

[windyshaman]

I am probably a little too dmt-green, but here are my 0.002 cents:

It might have more to do with harmalas in Changa than with LSD.

When practicing at home - I am always running some very specific visuals on the tv screen. This helps with the OEV-s and gives me something to fallback to - when CEV-s aren't going my way.

Point is - the weirdest OEV-s I've ever experienced - relatable to what you've described - it all happened with Changa.

Changa has been a bit of jester for me - with a questionable sense of humor - and some unexpected dark sides.

 

[Fancy_pants]

I am probably a little too dmt-green, but here are my 0.002 cents:

It might have more to do with harmalas in Changa than with LSD.

When practicing at home - I am always running some very specific visuals on the tv screen. This helps with the OEV-s and gives me something to fallback to - when CEV-s aren't going my way.

Point is - the weirdest OEV-s I've ever experienced - relatable to what you've described - it all happened with Changa.

Changa has been a bit of jester for me - with a questionable sense of humor - and some unexpected dark sides.

Thanks windy,

Yes it happened when smoking the Changa alone so its not the LSD.

I do have Caapi leaf in my mix so could be the harmalas. Although last time I mixed it in it gave a wonderful snakey vibe. Not this..

Never have I experienced this. It really seems very different to DMT visuals of any kind. Quite a horrible melty-oozy-sludge situation.