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ChrisChris517

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Hello all.. just wanted the boards expert opinion on this tek I came across..

Here.

How to Extract:

Hi There,

i am a person who knows a little bit about spice.

Whatever you do stay the fuck away from youtube! That's step one.

This is a tek that is based on Noman's DMT for the Masses, which i first read in The Entheogen Review. There are significant revisions from Noman's STB (straight to base) tek, based on my experiences.

Here's the easiest way:

MATERIALS:

Two (2) or more half gallon mason jars
Two (2) or more smaller jars
A freezer
A scale
A gallon of Distilled Water
A bottle of Vinegar (acetic acid)
Food grade lye (NaOH)
Naptha - Ronsonol or VM&P, NEVER Coleman's
#4 or #5 coffee filters
A pyrex dish
Heavy duty (lye rated) gloves)
Goggles
Double cartridge respirator
Long sleeved clothing
Shoes & long socks
One or more fans
An eye dropper or pipette or syringe - some way to pull off a top decanted layer of material

ALSO NEEDED:

Good ventilation
Long handled stainless steel spoon or other stirring tool
All pilot lights turned off
All flames extinguished
All sources of sparks/ignition off/controlled

NOTES: You can make more by simply doing the same procedure, using more jars. It's good to have more jars on hand than you think you will need, just in case one breaks or to cover the unexpected.

If you spill any of the lye/water/mimosa solution, immediately pour vinegar all over it before attempting cleanup.


1.) Put all your safety equipment on, open ventilation, start fans, kill flames/sparks.

2.) Put about 850 mL water in the jar. Add about 125 grams lye (NEVER add water to lye, unless you like blinding explosions), slowly, by stirring (stainless steel tool). It will heat up. Use eye protection! You want the lye to go fully into solution - no visible lye in the water. Let it cool for 10-15 mins.

3.) Put about 100 grams of mimosa hostillis root bark - finely ground up - into the jar and seal tightly. Shake vigorously for 2 minutes. Set aside for 2 hours. Smoke a joint if you so desire. Chill out, but do set a timer and come back to the jar in a couple of hours.

4.) Before your full 2 hours are up, begin warming your naptha. About 20-30 mins before the end of the 2 hours, pour hot water from your tap into a pan. Into this hot water bath, place a container of naptha. The water should not enter the container (contamination) and the container should not be sealed (expanding fumes leading to explosion/fire hazard). Ensure good ventilation near an open window with a fan. No sparks or flames. Warming your naptha is not necessary for success but it will increase your yield. After 10 minutes, dump the water out and replace with fresh hot from the tap. You can even do it a third time but that's it. I am beginning to believe it is actually possible to over-heat naptha. If heating, it's best in the 85-110 F range as far as I can determine.

5.) Measure about 40 mL naptha and add to the jar with the water/lye/mimosa mud. Seal this jar tightly. Slowly, gently and carefully rock/roll (do NOT shake) this jar for at least 4 minutes (or more, like 8 is better if you are super gentle and arthritic like i am). Meditate on intentions.

6.) Wait 10-15 mins and come back. You should see 2 layers.

If you do NOT see the layers: Gradually add more lye, about 20-50 grams at a time and alternate with more water about 25 mL at a time. You want the solution to be black and soupy but not too thick to separate. You CANNOT hurt the DMT by adding more lye - it just makes the DMT more likely to migrate over to the non-polar solvent (naptha).

7.) Decant the top layer into a smaller jar. Sepratory funnels are fun but difficult to use for a solution this thick. Syringes and eye droppers or pipettes seem best for beginners. It is important to remove only the top clear layer and to leave the bottom mud layer (contamination) behind. Do a double decant - suck off the top clear layer quickly into another jar. Now from that separate jar, do a second decantation - being very, very careful to precisely suck off just the clear naptha - leave all dark spots and oily residues behind. Place each dropper/syringe full of second collected decantation into your pyrex dish. Ensure good ventilation and wear your respirator throughout.

8.) Repeat steps 5-7 above AT LEAST 3 times. That is, do at least 4 total non-polar solvent (naptha) pulls to get all the spice out of the root bark. Put all the collected naptha from the second decanting into the pryrex dish.

9.) Now, you want to evaporate approximately 50% of this naptha in the pyrex dish. Best way is to place in front of a window with a fan on it. Seal the room and walk away. Come back in a couple of hours. You should see significantly less volume and the naptha should now be cloudy in appearance. Great news! The naptha is now saturated with your DMT.

10.) Transfer this saturated naptha into a new, clean jar. Seal the jar tightly.

11.) Place sealed jar in the back of your freezer. Freezer should be turned UP - should be cold enough to make your ice cream rock hard. Put the jar near the back where the cold air comes in. Close the freezer and try not to peak for 12-48 hours. Sure, you can wait 8 hours but why not wait 48 to get ALL of the DMT, every last precious and magical molecule, to precipitate.

12.) Pull the jar out of the freezer and place a coffee filter over a container large enough to hold all the naptha. Pour the freezing cold naptha through the coffee filter. There will be some crystalline DMT caught in the filter.

13.) Scrape the contents of the jar out onto a pyrex dish using a knife and/or razor. Use a razor to scrape the coffee filter. Take these wet crystals and dry with a fan on low setting (don't want to lose the material when it's powder!) and watch it. Work it off and on with a razor by spreading and chopping over a period of a few hours. You want ALL of the solvent smell to be gone.

14.) Your final product should be white or off white crystals which chop up to powder. This is the freebase form of N,N, Dimethyltryptamine.

If for any reason it seems unclean or the wrong color, the best solution is to recyrstalize using heptane (Bestine) which can be found in art supply stores. Here's a link to the basic procedure: Hip Forums

Hope this helps. Feel free to send or post questions.

Peace & Love,
Spice Cat
-Meow
 
SWIM Just complete an extraction via Noman's Tek and got great yields.
your Tek sounds fairly good but SWIM has a few suggestions...
1)Don't use jars use small square/rectangular GLASS food storage containers and place plastic wrap on the top to seal the opening, they'll be easier to scrap clean and dry.
2)put your Lyr,Mimosa,water mixture in as narrow as a jar as possible to make your naptha layer easier to pull off.
3)SWIM thinks that might be too much water but could be wrong about that, maybe someone else can weigh in on that.
4) it maybe more advantageous to place the whole mixture in a hot bath as well as heating the naptha to increas yield, just be cautious of pressure build-up but should be minimal.

Other than that it seems sound, be safe and have fun!
 
Hey man, thanks. I appreciate your response and the tips.
But who's SWIM? Are you SWIM? I've seen you posting quite a few times around here and am curios.
 
No problem SWIM is happy to help.
If you want look Here this is the Tek SWIM used and worked great, just add a little extra Lye not much like say 125g of Lye to every 100g of Mimosa. Should work great for you if you follow the above advice you'll get 1-1.5% yields.

--Sykosis is most definitely NOT "SWIM"--

Good luck!
 
Ohh, haha. My mistake.. I'm new around here if ya can't tell.

1-1.5% yields? Seriously? It was my understanding (could definitely be wrong) that NN-DMT only makes up 0.57% of MHRB? What else would I be getting? Or am I just wrong there?

Sorry for all the questions.. just eager to learn!
 
Alkaloid contents differ widely between different plants and it's been said that alkaloid content might even fluctuate during the day. So bad quality bark usually contains low amounts of DMT and good quality usually above 1% with up to 2% yield.

You'll pull other things from your mimosa said. Some of these might be other alkaloids present in mhrb but also plant fats. You can reduce the amount of plant fats being pulled along by doing an A/B and doing one or two naphtha pulls on the acid solution before adding the lye. The wiki contains detailed TEKs that explain how to do it.
 
And on an added sidenote: a double cartridge respirator seems a bit overkill to me. Safety first obviously but no extremely toxic fumes are produced during extracting.
 
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