What psychedelic is most likely to cause bad trips?

[polytrip]

I think that the reason cannabis does this to many people, is that it obviously impairs your ability to think rationaly more than other psychedelic substances. Especially when combined with other psychedelics.

People who smoke a lot of marihuana sometimes also tend to avoid social situations because of how they feel unable to communicate.

 

[jamie]

No that is not just it..cannabis makes me shake and have really really really horrible overstimulated body anxiety..sort of like a speed type of high with real psychedelic introspective overtones..my heart races so fast it feels like I am dying. I have even had muscle spasms from it.

If I start smoking all day aftr a few days I build a tolerancy but I dont lie smoking barely ever anymore..one every few weeks these days is it. If I take one small hit I get stoned for about an hour and feel good and happy, but even if I take just 1 hit and it's too big or I hold it too long I start freaking out..I mean really badly I end up taking off on my own and pacing around in the woods..I hate it. It's not psychedelic in the way other entheogens are..I leaned alot from it but I just have no desire to get high like that with cannabis anymore..it's a real nightmare trip for me.

 

[69ron]

Yeah fractal enchantment, same for SWIM. That's one reson he quit smoking it.

 

[kemist]

ILPT has to vote for shrooms He never had really high dose of lsd but lsd and lsh always give him noorotropic effects and racing thoughts which are amazing. He has lsd fewer times then mushrooms and always treated it with respect and was in pretty good mindset. His thoughts were racing but never turned to be negative, always just enriching and possitive giving more wisdom.

He has bad trip only once (if he doesn`t count salvia) and it was with mushrooms. He tripped in his campus room with room mate in watching telly. The dose wasn`t high enough and he ended up stucked half way in trip and half way in reality. there were only negative thoughts going on and on for good five hours. The conflict between reality and mushshroom imaginary was huge and very mind ripping. It turned him to be better person as it was very introspective, but the price he paid was ultimate. The trip was hell on the earth, very disphoric and negative. He wasn`t dare to touch any psychedelic for months after. He was carefull about good setting ever since.

 

[mattritt]

I believe set and setting to be the main reason for a bad trip. Though some psychedelics do seem more predisposed to it by their nature. Mushrooms for me are the only ones I've had a truley shattering bad trip on. Ive had alot of really intense and difficult experiences with LSD. Though none I'd label as truley "bad" in the sense that the mushroom trip was.

The bad trip I had on mushrooms was mind shattering, I literally was going nuts. It was my first time and I took an eighth of some really good mushrooms and had a great time for the first hour or two. Even wondering to myself how people have bad trips. Then as time went on the movie I was watching began to bring up thoughts about life and my life and such. It went on and on getting more intense and I just couldnt handle it. I literally understood too much and it scared the fuck out of me. I learned soooo much though from the trip and began to process it afterwards. Even up to a year later I was realizing stuff I learned during it. I credit that trip for saving my life aswell. I was just doing any drug I could at that point, pill or whatever and mushrooms were just the next thing to try. They grabbed me and said, "FUCK THAT, we have plans for you." Ive researched psychedelics ever since and stayed away from anything else. Mushrooms tend to confuse people more which is why I voted for them to be more likely to cause bad trips.

Now for LSD, I have had some extremely intense experiences that I would say have been VERY difficult and have had bad MOMENTS on it. To say though I've had a bad trip on LSD though I wouldn't say. Though I do see the potential and at some point during all my trips as if to open the door and offer it to me, it shows me that true insanity is only a step away if I so choose or so stumble my way into. At this point Ive found LSD to be too powerful of a substance for me to work with. It tends to linger with me too. I get alot of HPPD from it it seems. I will still notice that im coming down more and more in the weeks after. Im not exactly a fan of this. I feel that a true bad trip on LSD would be completely destroying to the mind. One, because of the duration of the trip coupled with the extreme time dilation, that atleast I experience. And two because of the sheer intensity of a strong LSD trip. For this reason I would vote for LSD to be more likely to cause HPPD and that it has the potential for much worse bad trips.

As far as phenethylamines I have yet to have anything close to a bad trip. Ive only tried lower dose mescaline, MDMA, and 2C-b, but I have some 2C-e that I'll be experimenting with soon. Though I have gotten molly once and rolls that I think were cut with meth and it was horrible experiences.


EDIT: Kemist, your experience sounds alot like mine, except I jumped back in that weekend and had an AMAZING trip. Truely Turned me on and Tuned me in.