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[SnozzleBerry]

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swim did his first extraction using normans tek

first messed up by puting in the pre powdered root bark in before adding lye and water.

and also used 20ml water instead of 15 becouse its pre powdered bark


and when taking naptha out it was not yellow but got rly cloudy when taken out freezer after 3 hours
what could have happened?

 

[Earthwalker]

Hi, I am posting this up because I need help on Earthwalker's tek. The step that has given me trouble (or the one where I realized something went wrong on my previous steps) is on the Clean Up steps. When I pour my saturated naps onto the acidified water & swirl it around, I am expecting to see a brown fatty layer in beteeen. I don't see any brown fatty layer in between my acidified water & saturated naphtha. Does anyone know what I did wrong? I have tried doing this tek several times & this always happens with little to no yield at all. Any help would be greatly appreciated

The brown layer as I call it is plant dusts and minuet fat deposits but that's with very ultra fine powdered bark , all barks are differant and what you have there looks sweet :thumb_up:

If you're not getting any result change barks , as you're technic above looks sound , and you aren't going to see the dmt change sides from the naps to acidifyd water. , only once you add the lye it will go white and snowflake should appear then and then only .. But sounds like bunk bark to me mate , hope this helps
And tryptallmine has some good advice :thumb_up:

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Well guys, I got some good news. As soon as I poured the 200ml of water that had lye my acidified water turned milky as pictured in the tek, and that has never happened before the only bad thing is that I ran out of naphtha so I have the container covered until I buy some more
Thanks everyone for the help, I really appreciate it :thumb_up:

 

[Tryptallmine]

That looks much much better! Well done. I'll be very surprised if you don't get a good yield from that.

 

[tydel24]

Does anyone agree that too much vinegar water was uses there.? That may affect yield. I can posy ehat mine look like in a minute

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Someone told me to try & add 20% more vinegar because I was having trouble with the tek & maybe that would've helped

 

[Tryptallmine]

Someone told me to try & add 20% more vinegar because I was having trouble with the tek & maybe that would've helped

I think tydel's comment was in reference to the volume of water and acid in your cleanup step. I don't think there's any issue. I've found a 2:1 ratio of water to solvent is generally enough in the cleanup but I've gone 3:1 without problem. As long as its properly acidic it should pull all the alkaloids out of the solvent.

I had told you to add extra acid in another thread just in case you weren't hitting the desired pH window given you don't have a pH meter. It was only because I don't find Acetic acid to be a particularly strong acid. Getting the acid solution below a pH of 2 hasn't been overly detrimental when I've messed around with a few different pH levels so a little more is better than not enough.

Switching to HCl was one of the better things I've done so far. Seems to protonate DMT better, but I have no evidence to back that up other than my own observations.

 

[tydel24]

I see. I always have my acid solution down to lil over half a liter. I run this rough my NPS in 3rds. 3 times over over bout 20 min

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Hi everyone, I'm back with a noob question. I've had my DMT floating around in my jar now for a few days & it's not milky anymore. I wanted to know if the yield gets affected in any way depending on how long you have it floating around? I ordered some Naphtha online & it might get here today or next week that's why.

 

[DeltaSpice]

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.
Maybe some one can give me their 2 cents worth?
I performed an extraction with powdered MHRB last weekend. I've been using the same method for years . Its not a known tek or maybe it is, I haven't read up on all the different tek's.
From my 360 grams of powder I yielded 1 gram of super white spice haha I know... So I re washed the slag with more heat and got another 2 grams of spice , white with a tad of yellow ish . That's 3g in total.
Normally I'd get about 5 grams ,clean and washed spice.
What I think is that maybe the root bark is old, a few years old, although it looks good maybe it has deteriorated in some way due to its age , hence the low yield.
Does anyone know what happens to powdered MHRB when it gets too old?
Does the DMT return to hyperspace or some thing :surprised
I still have a kilo left, I pray it hasn't gone off.
Cheers..

 

[anonenium]

please look up cybs max ion tek, you are wasting allot.

as for your question about what happens to it, the stuff grabs oxygen and becomes an oxide, if you use xylene you can still grab it or you could throw wome zinc and an oxygen scrubber into the mix to remove all the floating oxygen, then do the extration, but test it out with a much small batch than 1/3 a kilo.

 

[bnutz]

Hello everyone.I've been having a problem with the freeze part of the extraction acrb 100g tek.I leave my pulls in the freezer for 24 hours and I'm barely getting anything more than a few specs of crystals in the pan.Is the problem with the root bark maybe because when I put it in the freezer it turns milky white instantly.Any thoughts?I'm new to this but I follow the steps correctly.Any imput would be nice thank you.

 

[bnutz]

Leave it in the freezer longer maybe.:?

 

[slewb]

Try evaporating your pulls longer. The solvent should be milky white before it goes in the freezer.

 

[Sabnock1990]

They are said to contain DMT and one strain even has some sort of an MAOI.

 

[Auxin]

'The Genus Desmodium'
Half way down the page [Link]

 

[DeltaSpice]

Does Vaporizing Changa work?
What I mean is will the Harmala vaporise.
I have a bong and a GVG, I just thought I'd ask before I filthy up my GVG plus I don't wanna accidently just vape DMT , my DMT vaping days are over. Its Changa or nothing for me.
Thanks

 

[smokerx]

Sure you can vaporize it my friend. This is even smoother then using pipe. I always go for pipe as I am lazy to clean up my GVG . I use GVG only for pure spice.

 

[DeltaSpice]

I'll give it a bash then, it would be rude not to .
I just feel sorry for my GVG , it was kind of a waste of money. I have tried only once to breakthrough with it and had no joy, on an excursion to the woods.
Nower days I only smoke Changa indoors with rizlas.
I'll try it out tonight :want:
Cheers.

 

[Servant]

Hello Everyone !!! I was browsing this site for a couple of weeks now and its just Great !! Very good info ,and thank you all of you guys for sharing it ,keep it going << :thumb_up: :thumb_up: :thumb_up:

The only thing i need is some info on Hexane .Hexane is the only non polar solvent i can find here and gonna extract with it.I also made an evaporation test and it looks very clean without any odors left.

Can you guys tell me if Hexane has the same ratio for extraction as Naphtha (1ml per gram of bark ***For example Noman's tek***)? Also does freeze precipitation method going to work with hexane? Any other info or tips on Hexane would be appreciated a lot :thumb_up: :thumb_up: :thumb_up: <<<<<

Thank you for your help

Peace , Light & Love everybody !!!

 

[endlessness]

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