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Whats the best vaporizer for spice?

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Swim just tossed every oiler he had because he is most pleased with enhanced leaf. His pipe that he uses is sacred and it has never felt right using these ugly contraptions. I mean Jesus some of these things appear like you need to strap into the damn things lol. And for God sake electrical tape? I mean Electrical tape for your DMT pipe? It takes me back to when I first started smoking weed and was all into toilet paper roll pipes and shit lol. I am suprised more people arent really concerned with their pipes being a sacred piece and not just looking at effectiveness. Anyway Enhanced leaf is the way to go and it is much more appealing to the first timer when trying to turn them on to it.
 
nodice said:
Swim just tossed every oiler he had because he is most pleased with enhanced leaf. His pipe that he uses is sacred and it has never felt right using these ugly contraptions. I am suprised more people arent really concerned with their pipes being a sacred piece and not just looking at effectiveness. Anyway Enhanced leaf is the way to go and it is much more appealing to the first timer when trying to turn them on to it.

There is sacredness, also, in invention and creation. There is sacredness in purity of process as well. SWIM's never taken to smoking anything at all, and while he's willing to give changa a try, there's certainly no automatic appeal in it for SWIM. Oilers are certainly crap, except for those who have mastered their use, but there is no singular exclusively superior smoking method unless efficiency is the goal; otherwise it's only personal preference.
 
TriAngleOptics said:
Has anyone had any experience with a vaporgenie?

jbark`s GVG diaries

Most experienced users here will tell you that pieces like the GVG(glass vaporgenie)/VG(vaporgenie) are some of the best pieces out there to vaporize DMT.
As for me i ordered a VG recently.(would have picked the GVG but money is a bit short at the moment :roll: )


Also you will find neat little selfmade vaporizers known as "the machine" and other in the WIKI.
Ingestion Methods - DMT-Nexus Wiki (1.2 Equipments and How-To)
 
This beutiful piece was purchased after smoking out of a friends simple ROOR steam roller pipe where he had stuffed the giant cylindrical bowl full of copper wire taken from a copper scrubber. hence turning it into a fancy machine. The head shop I went to wasn't carrying the ROOR steam roller I was looking for but they did have this thing, the guy called it a "chillum" my mind said "transport device!" I gatta say it works amazingly well. I never burn spice now that my method is perfected. I smoke out of it basically the same way you'd smoke out of a weed pipe except keeping the lighter about 3 inches further away. I can get THICK rips even when only 10mg is loaded. In other words I recommend a machine fancy or not they work very well.
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Personally I mostly just smoke changa/enhanced leaf blends out of my bubbler. It's the simplest method and eliminates all the need to deal with special devices and techniques to measure and vaporize crystalline substances. I do love my GVG and will echo that it is the ultimate hypercannon for freebase, the spiceship du jour if you will.

Over time I have gravitated away from seeking the the furthest reaches of inner-space and found I prefer the the more grounded, more controlled entry afforded by changa as opposed to the freebase roller coaster. I guess my point is that it depends on what you are seeking, if you wanna go chasing rabbits, vaping crystals is the way to go; if you want to ease in and have more controlled, extended sessions then using enhanced material is more conducive to such an experience.
 
Kartikay said:
If you're looking for actual vaporizers, not glass pieces, then look for something that can go a little below 200 degrees F, and the bowl isn't at a downward angle. With the downward angle, your spice might drip down into the machine when it melts. Best to set the temp a little under 200 degrees, too, as to vaporize but not risk burning.

Are you sure you mean Fahrenheit? That seems too low to me, couldn't get ANY vapors that low.
Around 175°C (~350°F) seems to be the best. That should be just under burning temperature, but vaping densely.

Downward angle can be tricky, but actually can work better if you make your work to prevent any dripping into the heater.
For example the Machine has a downward angle and yet there is no molten spice dripping on your finger and torch. It just needs a good thick bed. A steel sponge in the case of machine, that or light ABV in case of any other downward vape.

If you want cheapest possible, the machine is probably the best way to go.
If you want to spend some money to get a REALLY good portable vape for spice - get A GVG.
If you use weed and have a LOT of money to spend for a desktop vape for that and also extend it to the spice - preorder a VapeXhale Cloud EVO.
With that you get the best hits possible without burning even with the worst inhaling techniques. No lighter. Superior taste. It is downwars bowl, but very easy to make a sandwitch in it and thap every single spice particle there to be exposed to the heat.
Or it is possible to use upside down, then no beed is needed. This vape is very expensive and sadly not available right now, but if you take vaping seriously and want a good desktop, this will serve excellently both weed and spice. Of course it can easily be cleaned completely so these tastes don't mix. Some other downsides for spice are that it's big and glass, so one need to be careful, at best having a sitter to hold the vape. And that its desktop, so you need an electric outlet - tripping in nature posible only with an auto-battery plus adapter or something.
 
The Machine + Course steel wool + Spice + Arc Tabletop Lighter = :shock: 😁 :lol: :surprised :cry: :roll: :p :?:

I wanted a GVG but could not find one for sale (I am in the UK) so tried the machine and we have a strong and stable relationship.

It's :love:
 
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