I've had about 4 breakthroughs so far. The first one I remember a few minor details from, mostly just crazy colors and not much substance or significance. That trip was enjoyable, however every other time has not been. The other three I have absolutely no memory of. All I remember is taking the first hit, and then finding myself in the same spot 4-8 minutes later with some shroomy looking visuals. The only time I do remember is if I don't breakthrough, however I have found every sub breakthrough experience to be straight up scary. I really do not enjoy those trips at all. Basically I'm starting to wonder why I'm even bothering, since I don't enjoy sub breakthrough experiences and don't remember breakthroughs. I gave one of my friends a breakthrough dose and they did remember their trip. They also reported flying through a city, which pissed me off as I have yet to see any actual objects or entities, just crazy colors and one time (the first time) I briefly saw a cartoony face. I also am filled with dread any time I consider smoking any, mostly because of the numerous sub breakthroughs. I have had about 10 of those. Every time I smoke I always take the first hit and lose any ability to take more, regardless of if I broke through or not. Everyone else seems to enjoy it...am I doing it wrong or is DMT just not for me?
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Whats the point if I can't remember it?
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Sounds like you're terrified, and possibly wondering why you are even doing this in the first place?
Might be a good idea to meditate on this. Clearly you are drawn to the spice for some reason. It's natural, it is a profound substance.
You want to explore it and yourself and see the possibilities that can form from doing so.
You feel the intensity of the first hit and as it begins to overtake you your mind gets the better of you and you do not execute to the algorithm.
Take a look at the link in my signature, it offers a lot of helpful hints.
If you truly do want to see what lies on the other side, you have to chief that pipe like there's no tomorrow and hold those hits in as long as you can. 20 seconds is a good place to shoot for. You have to consciously remind yourself every step of the way what you are doing. Clear the bowl NO TURNING BACK
Pipe isn't working out? Get a bong!
Bong isn't working out? Make Changa!
Changa still isn't working out?
Smoke Changa on LSD or mushrooms.
Still haven't had a breakthrough?
Double the dose.
Drink ayahuasca.
There are options.
P.S. Over time it gets easier to remember the DMT experience as you actually have to grow new neurons to store that hyperspatial information. It takes some people longer than others. Instead of being afraid, BE AWARE be vibrant be alert in hyperspace take mental notes observe everything ask questions and believe nothing.
Might be a good idea to meditate on this. Clearly you are drawn to the spice for some reason. It's natural, it is a profound substance.
You want to explore it and yourself and see the possibilities that can form from doing so.
You feel the intensity of the first hit and as it begins to overtake you your mind gets the better of you and you do not execute to the algorithm.
Take a look at the link in my signature, it offers a lot of helpful hints.
If you truly do want to see what lies on the other side, you have to chief that pipe like there's no tomorrow and hold those hits in as long as you can. 20 seconds is a good place to shoot for. You have to consciously remind yourself every step of the way what you are doing. Clear the bowl NO TURNING BACK
Pipe isn't working out? Get a bong!
Bong isn't working out? Make Changa!
Changa still isn't working out?
Smoke Changa on LSD or mushrooms.
Still haven't had a breakthrough?
Double the dose.
Drink ayahuasca.
There are options.
P.S. Over time it gets easier to remember the DMT experience as you actually have to grow new neurons to store that hyperspatial information. It takes some people longer than others. Instead of being afraid, BE AWARE be vibrant be alert in hyperspace take mental notes observe everything ask questions and believe nothing.
Hmm, that post was actually quite helpful. If I made some kind of dmt enhanced leaf would it slow the come up? Like would I be able to take the entire dose before I started to feel anything? I am more comfortable with smoking, being a weed smoker since the age of 15, so I'm thinking changa might be easier.
Look into the faq and wiki on how to make changa with caapi leaves. you basically just grind them, pour solvent on them, add dmt in a 1:1 ratio to weight of herb, evaporate, and stir. Viola. Smoke 100mg of that!
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Could I perhaps use cannabis as the herb? I know some people say it clouds the experience but my only positive dmt trip was while I was high. I'm sure it wouldn't help with the memory aspect of it, but perhaps it would take away some of the anxiety? Also the only breakthrough I retained memories from was while high.
Since you are having issues with clarity in hyperspace, it may be wise to try both caapi leaf changa and cannabis enhanced leaf to see what you like better. Take your dmt and make half and half for example.
Cannabis works for some, others it doesn't. It doesn't affect hyperspace for me in any way, but I am a heavy user.
The anxiety is something you have to tackle with your mind, your body, and your breath. RELAX and meditate before you do this.
Another thing. Sit in the dark for like 30 minutes before you smoke DMT. This may seem weird to some people, but prolonged exposure to darkness helps these things kick in way stronger.
Cannabis works for some, others it doesn't. It doesn't affect hyperspace for me in any way, but I am a heavy user.
The anxiety is something you have to tackle with your mind, your body, and your breath. RELAX and meditate before you do this.
Another thing. Sit in the dark for like 30 minutes before you smoke DMT. This may seem weird to some people, but prolonged exposure to darkness helps these things kick in way stronger.
Good advice from House as usual.
I would agree avoiding cannabis helps, my deepest breakthroughs came from using spice on top of some tea leaves(from a tea bag), instead of weed as I usually did.
I would also add to meditate before the experience and try to clear your mind. Focus on your breathing, deep breaths in through the nose, out through the mouth. Do this for about 5-10 minutes(longer if you want). Then hit the spice quickly, as you fade into hyperspace, pay attention.
Pay Attention!
I cannot stress this enough, my problems with remembering trips came because I wasn't paying attention. I was so caught up in how "awesome" everything was that when I came back to Earth, I forgot everything. Once I started actually paying attention, that means looking with your eyes(even if they're closed) and imprinting the details in your memory. I find spice doesn't impair your thinking as much as it causes hallucinations so this shouldn't be too hard to do. try concentrating on what's happening, like it's an important lecture or something(it basically is).
I would agree avoiding cannabis helps, my deepest breakthroughs came from using spice on top of some tea leaves(from a tea bag), instead of weed as I usually did.
I would also add to meditate before the experience and try to clear your mind. Focus on your breathing, deep breaths in through the nose, out through the mouth. Do this for about 5-10 minutes(longer if you want). Then hit the spice quickly, as you fade into hyperspace, pay attention.
Pay Attention!
I cannot stress this enough, my problems with remembering trips came because I wasn't paying attention. I was so caught up in how "awesome" everything was that when I came back to Earth, I forgot everything. Once I started actually paying attention, that means looking with your eyes(even if they're closed) and imprinting the details in your memory. I find spice doesn't impair your thinking as much as it causes hallucinations so this shouldn't be too hard to do. try concentrating on what's happening, like it's an important lecture or something(it basically is).
dmtk2852 said:
In line with what dmtk2852 is saying, if you see something that in hyperspace that you'll hope you'll remember afterward, you'd better reallocate all your focus to whatever it is in front of you right now cause it probably won't be there in a few seconds (or look the same anyway). DMT can show you some pretty special/sacred things, but it also uses "smokescreens" by throwing up all kinds of seemingly extraneous stuff so before not too long, you've completely forgotten everything you've already seen...and the trip isn't even over yet! If you see something interesting, focus on it, try to come up with descriptions no matter how lame or inadequate they may be of your surrounding so that they're more easily recallable via memory later. I can understand this doesn't apply to blackouts where nothing might as well have happened, and if blackouts are a consistent issue, then you'll have to lower your dosage.
Sounds like a mg scale can help you hone in on your "sweet spot".....without one its literally a shot in the dark-hit or miss...and those misses sure are disappointing when your wanting to breakthrough. A gvg can help you get it all in one hit if that is a factor.
Oh yeah...and don't give into the astonishment!
Oh yeah...and don't give into the astonishment!
