Which B. Caapi vine should I get? Help!

[Ford Prefect]

So, I'm ready to order some Ayahuasca but I dont know which strain to try. Can any of you fine-vine folks shed some light on the matter. I've heard the effects can vary from strain to strain. Are the effects really different? Do some varieties make you purge more? Are some more visual, etc.?

The cielo strain seems to be popular (or is that yellow?)... I've heard the red and black are quite "resinous". The white is supposed to be "magical". Unfortunatly the suppliers cant really elaborate on anything because nothing is sold for consumption. Blah, blah, blah :roll:

I guess i'm just afraid of throwing up alot and being far too uncomfortable to have a good experience. I tend to puke when using psychs... It's sorta wierd when I dont, actually. I find it cleansing though, and usually erupt with laughter when its over. But this is a new territory and I dont know what to expect.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Also, any advise, dosage or safety info for a first timer would be great. I've seen alot of conflicting info on that, so please chime in. I intend on useing it without DMT first, or maybe fb a little when i'm comfortable. Then trying it again whith a charcruna or mimosa brew alongside. thanks guys!

 

[jamie]

sounds like you might want to start with white.

 

[Agave]

I would caution against black vine to start with as it can get quite overwhelming in short order.

 

[obliguhl]

Also, any advise, dosage or safety info for a first timer would be great. I've seen alot of conflicting info on that, so please chime in. I intend on useing it without DMT first, or maybe fb a little when i'm comfortable. Then trying it again whith a charcruna or mimosa brew alongside. thanks guys!

Check out this recent thread: Looking for a gentle first Ayahuasca experience - Ayahuasca - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[Ford Prefect]

So at I***AM***SHAMAN dot com i found B. Caapi available in small quantites for a decent price. So I bought a small amount of "white" for starters. Then a decent amount of yellow and "Mckenna's" Red. I still want to try the "cielo" but they didnt advertise that. So I'll find that next time, I guess. I want to do more research about the "black". Any info would be great.

 

[un-known-ome]

I recently had the opportunity to taste the black vine after only ever having tried the yellow vine and the black vine certainly punches above its weight. At 56 grams, I needed no admixture to have a psychedelic experience. It did cause more stomach discomfort, however. The sight and smell of the black vine brew foreboded of a powerful experience, and once I had gotten it down, some external force intervened and stopped me from drinking any mimosa as if it had seen into the future and wanted to protect me. That is not entirely true, but I absolutely sensed the potency of the black cappi vine and knew not to drink anything else. I have white vine stated away, and soon the day will come that I get to indulge myself.

 

[Para]

I started with black caapi and I think I'll go back to it (now I take cielo); its effects are more potent and I can 'abandon' the body more easily.
I like black caapi, it separates me more from the ambient, I felt like it closed more tightly the door to the external perception, preparing me better to the light carrier.

I bought them from ~m_a_y_a~

 

[McCoyBoy]

i've only tried black caapi so far and it is amazing. get ready to feel mother nature

 

[endlessness]

Can you guys please name the vendor you bought the different caapi from, but in a "hidden" way (like the edit in Ford Prefect) to prevent search bots from identifying it? Im wondering if these experiences are related to one vendor only or to different vendors.

 

[rOm]

Cielo or yellow vine (it is the same from what I hear) and white are generally softer. So they're generally good to start with.
I'd go red then and black after, though maybe there isn't much difference between white, cielo and red, the black apparently is always way stronger, thus for more experienced drinker.

 

[BecometheOther]

Last weekend i had a brew with yellow black and red in it.
My conclusion: they are all good!


You generally cant go wrong starting with cielo or yellow ayahuasca, and this is the strain recommended for beginners.

If you are getting different kinds of ayahuasca imported from the jungle, then you need to be very cautious when testing them out: some black cappi is not much different from yellow, where some other black cappis are EXTREMELY POWERFUL even at doses of less than 50 grams with no admixture.

The moral of the story is a serious one. when importing plant materials, test at a very small dosage first to make sure your expectations of the potency are at least close. This applies not only to ayahuasca vines, but any admixtures you may be useing as well, expecially chaliponga or charcuna.

cheers and good luck!