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Which substances can take you to another dimension besides DMT?

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I've tried high doses of mushrooms, Peyote and LSD and I've never breakthrough to another dimension. The most amazing thing about these substances is that, from my point of view, they have the ability to alter this reality as well. But anyway... the things I get are emotions, visuals, lessons, gifts, punishments, answers and questions.... but never other dimensions or entities.

It is proven that DMT can transport most of its users to another dimensions, have hypersex and interact with aliens, plus the things mentioned above.

Are there any other substances than can take your consciousness to another dimension as easily as DMT?


Since the beginning I've suspected that DMT may be a key to a real and independent plane of existence, but I'm wondering if there are other keys that can take you there as well. I'm slowly losing interest in substances that modify my perception of this reality, and gaining interest in substances that clearly transport the consciousness to another dimension.

Thanks for your attention.
 
Salvia and bufotenine can get you over.

Also in my experience, you can very much breakthrough with mushrooms.

I've also had some very abstract breakthroughs on MDA, but that's more like a weird delirium that's probably not a good thing.
 
I have had breakthroughs on mushrooms for sure and some LSD experiences that came very close to breakthroughs, at least, with inability to distinguish eyes open vs. closed, body boundaries, etc.

Edit: and ketamine, for sure.
 
Mushrooms for sure! Salvia I'm guessing you can, though every time I've tried Salvia I feel like a hallucination has just spanked me round the chops and I end up pretty confused. I'm never actually sure if I enjoyed the experience or not... :?
 
Yes on my first Salvia experience, with a waterpipe full of 20x extract, I unexpectedly brokethrough to an absolutely insane space...or more accurately series of spaces, each like a page in an infinite book I was being flipped through, sort of like radial gravity, and each space with its own beings. The entire time I didn't remember I had taken a drug.

However DMT breakthrough spaces have consistently been easier to connect with what's here on Earth; I often feel like I'm visiting old, sacred festival grounds, or meeting with the ancestors. I recall Daniel Pinchbeck discussing "the DPT realm". Could all of these breakthroughs be a connection with another "realm" or plane of existence, what the Aborigines call Dreamtime, modified by the specific properties of the chemical in question? So that "Salvia space" is the same as "DMT space", etc...just viewed through different lenses or signals?
 
Ya, on salvia I have gone to places. I once had a conversation with the molecules that made up my body while in a sort of void.
 
^^no you dont. If you need 10 grams sounds like you have some weak cubes.

5 grams will always do it for me..and 2-3 if I have dry psilocybe cyanescens.. Salvia will break you through..bufotenine will break you through..ive had it happen with LSA+cannabis and mescaline+cannabis...oh and ayahuasca.
 
T-45 days - or so - to SWIM's first spice/aya launching. Until then, SWIM has wonderful cactal-driven memories of sitting in his garden admiring the babmoo as he is fully conscious of simultanaeously being in multiple times and places at once ... seeing flashes of color, shapes, people and events from the past. Or, just looking at a rock in his Zen garden and knowing that "his" and "its" existence are identical ... and identical to all of existence. These moments SWIM attributes to the multidimensionality of San Pedro. Admittedly, those moments do not seem too much like the "hyperdimensionaity" of spice, as reported on here, and SWIM cannot wait to experience THAT! At least until he returns from ayajourney #1, SWIM feels that San Pedro may offer experiences that are more grounded in, or familiar with, what the journeyor already knows about life. And that aya/spice goes beyond that?
 
and for that matter, while meditating or in sleep paralysis and similar states, especially when you already know you are meditating or in sleep payalysis, it is completely possible to experience other dimensions without the aid of any "substance". One can even experience multiple meditative or sleep paralysis states/dimensions at the same time. Ultimately, I think it's meant for us to be able to put all this together, maybe a little help from a chemical or three, until we are "there". Neem Karoli Baba, per Ram Dass' book, said of LSD something like, "Ahhh, a long time ago in (some place he mentioned) some people knew how to use this medicine, but that knowledge is lost now." Hopefully, not so lost now.

Hey, LeBron to Miami? WadeBoshJames? There's a new drug for hoops fans!
 
If you do decide to take Salvia, be careful. Some people have a pretty adverse reaction to it - my brother for example. When he smoked some, he got extremely confused, anxious and angry. When I tried to approach him to calm him down, he told me to "F**k off" and continually called me a "c***"! After he realised what he was saying when the effect of the Salvia wore off he apologised profusely and made me hug him! He said he'd never called anybody a c*** with so much meaning and venom before! I can't remember the strength of the Salvia, maybe x5?
A similar thing happened to him before then too, when he was in Amsterdam. After smoking the Salvia, he thought that his friends were trying to screw him over and attempted to escape them by jumping down the stairs of their apartment. His friends stopped him thank god! He's never going to touch Salvia again!]
I guess if you decide to try Salvia make sure that you're in a safe place!
 
I see... so let's say... would this list be correct?


Easy to breakthrough

medium to high doses of:

• Dimethyltryptamine [confirmed]
• Bufotenin [confirmed]
• Salvinorin [confirmed]
• Ketamine [confirmed]
• Ibogaine ???


Not so easy, but possible

High doses of:

• Mushrooms [confirmed]
• LSA / LSD ???


picatris said:
With smoked 5-MeO-DMT one transcend dimensions!
It's a quantum leap above DMT
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Are you sure? I think I read somewhere here that 5.Meo.DMT is not precisely very visual?


fractal enchantment said:
mescaline+cannabis...
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Wow! That is amazing... I don't know how you do it but mescaline + cannabis has never let me breakthrough... maybe you are more sensitive?


@elbowcups: Thanks for the recommendation. I definitely will have a sitter when trying Salvia plants and / or extracts.

@lisergify: Very interesting post. It's something worth thinking about...
 
I had not smoked in about 6 weeks at the time. I ate a bag of peruvian torch chips and smoked about 6 hours in..seriousily the trip went from a nice mellow mescaline glow to literally being spliced into various dimensions of time all at once. It was freaky and I had to try real hard to convince myslef I wasnt really now a time traveler and that I would come down. I ran away from my freinds on the beach and walked many miles through the woods and along roads, until I arrived back at their house later on for thanksgiving dinner:d ..it was a fun/weird/freaky day, and I never smoked cannabis with cacti again.
 
I’ll echo what others have said about salvia. It is quite capable of taking me to a completely different reality.

lysergify said:
Yes on my first Salvia experience, with a waterpipe full of 20x extract, I unexpectedly brokethrough to an absolutely insane space...or more accurately series of spaces, each like a page in an infinite book I was being flipped through, sort of like radial gravity, and each space with its own beings. The entire time I didn't remember I had taken a drug.

However DMT breakthrough spaces have consistently been easier to connect with what's here on Earth; I often feel like I'm visiting old, sacred festival grounds, or meeting with the ancestors. I recall Daniel Pinchbeck discussing "the DPT realm". Could all of these breakthroughs be a connection with another "realm" or plane of existence, what the Aborigines call Dreamtime, modified by the specific properties of the chemical in question? So that "Salvia space" is the same as "DMT space", etc...just viewed through different lenses or signals?
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That’s interesting – for me it’s the opposite:

The entities in salvia experiences are almost always human, and usually humans I know (relatives, friends, etc.) The circus or carnival theme has occurred often, although lately I find myself moving through many parallel realities – similar to our own, yet clearly different. The experiences are generally “earth-bound” and happen in time and space.

With DMT, the entities are extremely alien. The environment is equally alien. It’s like nothing I’ve ever seen or could ever imagine. It seems very much like a place beyond time and space. It’s easy to interpret this place as the “afterlife”.
 
clouds said:
fractal enchantment said:
mescaline+cannabis...
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Wow! That is amazing... I don't know how you do it but mescaline + cannabis has never let me breakthrough... maybe you are more sensitive?
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Me too! I love cacti and I had "breakthrough" experience when I smoked some cannabis after 2-3 hours into the trip.

I think that the magic of DMT or salvia lies in it's ability to catapult you into another dimension. People struggling with those experiences only show how strong those effects are. I would ask what are the most powerful psychedelics on Earth. Is ketamine a psychedelic? Or salvia for that matter?

On an esoteric forum someone said that salvia is cool because it "gives you an instant astral travel". So maybe it's the way to understand what is happening under influence of those powerful psychoactives.
 
clouds said:
picatris said:
With smoked 5-MeO-DMT one transcend dimensions!
It's a quantum leap above DMT
Click to expand...
Are you sure? I think I read somewhere here that 5.Meo.DMT is not precisely very visual?
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All answers are naturally subjective. Although yes , smoked 5-MeO-DMT is not the most visual substance. But if I'm not certain of many things in life, I'm certain about 5-MeO-DMT potential tor transcend all and everything one may know.

It was James Oroc, I guess, that coined the term "The God Molecule" for 5-MeO-DMT, which I believe is quite appropriate. There is no other one that resembles it.
 
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