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staresatwalls

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just got back from louisiana, going back tomorrow. i'll be on a boat cooking for people sending bursts of sound into the gulf looking for even more pockets of oil for minimum wage 84 hours a week. i'll start making more as i learn HOW to cook but as soon as i save up fifteen grand or so i'm going to take a tour of egypt with john anthony west


he was on the rogan podcast and he thoroughly got my attention and i figure while i'm making "bank" i should do this. well anyway as soon as i save up enough to do this and ten grand i'm moving up to vancouver bc canada where i will continue the rest of my life and hopefully put the majority of this money into an earthship.

anyways i'm going to be gone from society for 28 days starting tomorrow. AND i have to cut all my hair off... hahahaha

what sort of bullshit have you put yourself through to get what you want?
 
Ive had to suck it up from a vile manager and not speak my mind. See I challenged her too many times and she layed off me but continued with her evil ways and you just let it go, others werent so lucky and allowed her to bully them, she calmed it down with me because I wouldnt allow it! So take no shit! Now I am living in a beautiful foreign country with amazing people and well shes long forgotten. Now im working again as hard as I can teaching english and the goal is to work until christmas and go live in cambodia for 3-4 months. Deserted tropical islands, musrhooms, lsd, weed, a music studio. Sometimes you just need to suck it up to get the things you want and work work work 😉
 
hell yeah guys it'll be nice to actually have a venue of getting paid for working hard. i'm not blaming the economy in the u.s. but work is shit around here w/out tons of credentials which i've paid a lot of money to get for this job. will do jamie; i've heard you reside in that area. we should go snow boarding when i get up there
 
staresatwalls said:
what sort of bullshit have you put yourself through to get what you want?


^^Thats the key question.Keep your eye on the prize, and the memories of the road travelled to get there will fade.

[/quote]. Now im working again as hard as I can teaching english and the goal is to work until christmas and go live in cambodia for 3-4 months. Deserted tropical islands, musrhooms, lsd, weed, a music studio. Sometimes you just need to suck it up to get the things you want and work work work [/quote]


^^Infinite I, Cambodia is fantastic.One thing to watch though is the potential effect a medium to long stay can have in seriously messing around with ones idea of what 'normality' is! :surprised :thumb_up:
 
StaresAtWalls:
I'm in the same line of work as you, except I'm the Chief Eng.

To be doing anything with the attitude you have is a waste of time. Enjoy what time you have doing whatever it is you are doing.
If this is 100% impossible you should not be doing this.
It kinda goes back to how you view things. Yeah, I'm gone 8 months a year at sea, I could see negatively, but shoot, why not see the 4months a year I have to do whatever I want?
Not to mention we get to see some of the most beautiful areas in the world.

If you have done Dmt, you must have noticed that to some extent you create your own reality... do that now as best you can.

good luck
 
corpus callosum said:
^^Infinite I, Cambodia is fantastic.One thing to watch though is the potential effect a medium to long stay can have in seriously messing around with ones idea of what 'normality' is! :surprised :thumb_up:

Sounds great LOL Everyone I meet always say good things about it!

To be doing anything with the attitude you have is a waste of time. Enjoy what time you have doing whatever it is you are doing.

I understand your point about having a positive mental attitude but a lot of people do jobs they hate because they have to pay their mortgage and are basically trapped. Its all well and good saying things like that but it doesnt wash for most people in the real world Im afraid!
 
Ringworm said:
StaresAtWalls:
To be doing anything with the attitude you have is a waste of time. Enjoy what time you have doing whatever it is you are doing.


i'll enjoy the being on a boat as much as i can. hopefully i'll get my passport soon and then i can get jobs around the world and really enjoy it. i hope i encounter another nexus member on the boat :thumb_up:

see you guys in a month :)
 
i refer to it as the "comforting cage".

Im sitting in a pink cubicle as we speak with some kind of communication machine strapped to my face all day. Ive been here for 4 years, its a customer service call center. For 4 years i have been talking to about 100 different people everyday, and most of them are blaming me for their stupidity. It can be extremely stressfull. To top it off im not even the first guy they talk to, i only talk to the people that are pissed off enough to request a manager lol, and they usually have to sit on hold for about a half hour before they talk to me, they use that time to think of the most original and unique insults possible. Everyday i ask myself on my way in the door, "why am i wasting my life away in this cage!?"

Theres a flip side to it though. I wake up in the morning with a beautiful lady, (she actually just recently started working here as well so our schedules are the same) we usually have about 2-3 hours before work to kill. So we will make a pot of coffee, and sit out on our back porch listening to the birds chirp, sipping our coffee and smokin our herb. Usually we will let our little kitty and our turtle run around in the yard while we sit and talk. When we get home we have a nice comfortable little house to relax in. On the weekends we can usually afford to go camping at the lake, or at least take my little inflatable boat and a 6 pack out for a few hours since we are only about a half hour away.

So i guess my point is I hate my job, but it allows me to live comfortably right now. I can always afford to eat good food, do fun things and smoke good herb, not to mention all those expensive art supplies. Hopefully someday ill be able to afford to live like this without spending 40 hours a week in a pink cubicle but right now its what i got so ill make the most of it. I dont need a job, If you say you are trapped by your job you are either lieing to yourself or you have kids lol. I could always throw a backpack on and hitchhike around the country, couch surfing and spanging, and im sure that would be exiting and have moments of bliss but i just dont think that lifestyle is right for me.

Like i said, hopefully someday i wll make money doing what i love, somethign to do with art, I will be mostly self sufficient, living on my own land in harmony with nature, and i will really have some freedom, my life will be much better than it is now. The first step to growing however is learning to be greatful and appreciative of what you already have.
 
As long as you're still young you have nothing to worry about. It's part of the process. Think of it as a metaphorical equivalent to the challenging moments at the start of a DMT journey, the part where you have to let go and surrender before things clear away and you can start the journey proper.

I have a great job- I tattoo people and publish art books. But I had to start my career in an apprenticeship situation with a very flawed (and completely strung out on heroin) boss. It was a grueling two years, but I never lost sight of the larger goal. With the right attitude, you can make the most of these challenging transition periods... Lemonade outta lemons, and all that.
 
I understand your point about having a positive mental attitude but a lot of people do jobs they hate because they have to pay their mortgage and are basically trapped. Its all well and good saying things like that but it doesnt wash for most people in the real world Im afraid!

*laughs*
So wait, because I choose to enjoy my job I do not live in the real world?
I come to work essentially to make money to pay for nice things like mortgages as well.

I agree, I would be mildly depressed working indoors.... that is why I have avoided that type of work at all costs. YOU and only you determine your reality. Not happy at your job? find another one. It isn't like this is my first job and it was all just perfect, I had to try different things out, I even ran my own business. After 7 years of self employment I had to start over again in this field, I was not happy about starting at the bottom again. After running my own show I didn't really want to be taking orders/cleaning toilets/ etc but I worked hard, moved myself into a better position.

Having been offshore for 5 years now, I can not imagine getting on a boat for 28 days with the mindset of "wow this sucks so bad, I can't stand to do this." Man! that'd be a long month.

Stares at walls, work hard, impress everyone with your skill and awesome attitude, get as many licenses as you can hold and see where ya get to. If you have a master goal in mind work towards it. Try to take pleasure in the little things.

Good luck!
Rw
 
Laugh all you like mate, I wasn't talking about you, though please continue im really interested in how much of a success you are in life! :roll: I was talking about people I know like my mother my father, friends etc. Not happy go find another job?? Yes life is so easy like that! again this is the real world, there aren't a lot of jobs in my country, especially for older people like my parents. There arent even many jobs for younger people, you cant just go find another job sometimes people need to make do with what they have. Ive recently left my job of 7 years because I was sick of it so I have some sort of understanding but this blaise attitude I see a lot here is clearly not part of the world I am from. I often see people here say things like that, go live in the forest, only drink spring water from a natural spring, grow your own food, go find a new job if you dont like the one you have, coming from a northern british city this sort of talk isnt the real world.

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Ahh, I see.
I thought you were referring to what I was saying. you quoting what I said misled me for some reason.
I'm sorry your parents have no chance to change their situation in life. Lambs to the slaughter I guess, eh? shh shh don't fight it.

though please continue im really interested in how much of a success you are in life! Rolling eyes
I wrote about how I failed miserably at several things before I found something I could be happy in. This involved me loosing everything and starting over more than once. I can see how that appeared to be bragging about some sort of success I enjoy.
 
Guys, chill.

True points from you both:

1) Some of us have more opportunities than others, and many have little to none

2) In many, possibly most cases, a good attitude, hard work, excelling at your work etc. will increase your range of opportunities and rewards

I don't see any contradiction here.
 
I absolutely hate my job. But I cannot simply find another one. And if I were doing anything, let alone getting on a boat, to make minimum wage I would hate it as well. I forced myself to enjoy this job for quite awhile. It did help with certain things and even increased my productivity. But the truth is, unless your content with what you are doing and if it makes enough for your standard of living you are just lying to yourself.

Your both correct, you both have different situations that require the mode of thinking your using.

I see no reason to care about your job if you see it as useless, temporary, shitty, or even hindering.

I only care about what I'm doing if I'm doing something I care about.
 
I'm told in MBA programs they teach you about "competitive advantage" - a business or an individual can increase demand for his/her products or services by building a competitive advantage over others. If you can find something you're better at than anyone else, and people will pay you to do what you enjoy - because it benefits them. I was in a grind a couple of years ago ("bad" job, nasty coworkers), stuck through it, it turned out to be a good thing because it paid the bills for a few months while I made plans for something bigger, better, juicier financially, more "spiritually" satisfying, etc. Hope it works out for you.
 
Guyomech said:
As long as you're still young you have nothing to worry about. It's part of the process. Think of it as a metaphorical equivalent to the challenging moments at the start of a DMT journey, the part where you have to let go and surrender before things clear away and you can start the journey proper.

I have a great job- I tattoo people and publish art books. But I had to start my career in an apprenticeship situation with a very flawed (and completely strung out on heroin) boss. It was a grueling two years, but I never lost sight of the larger goal. With the right attitude, you can make the most of these challenging transition periods... Lemonade outta lemons, and all that.


That is awesome its always good to hear from people that are actually making a living with their art, sometimes it feels like that is impossible. Maybe when I get around to posting some of my work ill shoot you a pm, I would really like to hear what you have to say about it being a successful artist yourself. Also do you have a link or somethign you could post to see some more of your work?
 
www.hyperspacestudios.com
www.tattooeducation.com
www.protonpress.com

My wife is my business partner. It's a cool arrangement, as we are both interested in pushing in the same direction. Being self employed can be great, but I'll tell you, the hustling never stops. But at this point we really like almost everyone we do business with, and we enjoy the work itself most of the time. We also both work ourselves to exhaustion frequently... Partly to keep that "competitive advantage", partly because we are ambitious and enjoy the work. But seriously, no rest for the wicked.

In addition, we live month to month without much in savings... Surplus is invested into our business. But we put our faith and confidence into the things we are pursuing- that's enough security for me. At least for now.
 
well, if you guys have jobs that you actaully enjoy than that is great..working for yourself is the best thing..many people do not have jobs they enjoy and the monetary system currently have is a royal joke IMO..People always tell other people to go get a job they love if they dont like the one they have, but this is IMO more of a nice little sentence than anything else and not a reflection of the reality of the situation...sure it is nice to make a living but let's get real here for a moment..making mimimum wage in most places where I am on the west coast as least just does not cut it..making over minimum wage does not cut it..and there is not much of a selection of jobs even available. You are lucky if you have the shittiest job you can get in Vancouver..ask anyone who moves here.

To be honest, I would rather be living off of my own land and rigging up my own solar power etc than be working some 40hr a week job. It is a lot of work but I would just rather be doing that.

Ive been through it. The land of the free my ass. I have worked so many damn construction jobs, general labour jobs..I have done carpentry to iron working..I never enjoyed any of it, but I went becasue I like to eat and sleep under a roof. I have had less intesne jobs but you cant even pay rent with work like that. I like to build things for myself sure, but I cant go along happily building some crap I could not care less about while being paid far less than I deserve to come home with my back feeling like it is about to break. All I got in the end from doing that for the first 7 years of my working life was a sore body.

I did not like it and I tried to do something about it and start my own business and basically ended up with lots of debt..nothing about trying to build something like that for yourslef is easy..there are just walls and walls of people and organizations with their hands out along the way.

I dont like the system and I do not believe in it. It is not set up for people to "be anything they want to be". It is set up for people to go do what the system makes available for you to do, often times not even ethically and at wages far below what your time is actaully worth. This is the way it really is. You can go to college, I did..and then life happened and I realized I am not a millionaire with the money for university and dont really care for student loans I will be paying for forever.

I am determined to make my own work within this system, but it is not easy and they dont seem to be making it any easier. It is designed to eat up small business owners. This is just the sad reality. Nothing about it is really encouraging.
 
"To be honest, I would rather be living off of my own land and rigging up my own solar power etc than be working some 40hr a week job. It is a lot of work but I would just rather be doing that. "

Well me too, but how do I get a peice of land without working a 40hr a week job? Too bad this country is not in its first few years anymore and we couldnt just go claim a nice chunk of land as our homestead. Actually I think there are still places that you can do that in alaska but the growing season would probably suck. Anybody know antying about that?

Youre right Jamie the system is rediculous, a friend explained it like a game of monopoly with altered rules the other night. He said, Lets play monopoly, only instead of distributing the money evenly I get all the money, and all the properties, because Im the bank, I own everything, railroads, jail, everything. Now the older people get a little money because they have been working their entire lives, but the younger people acutally start out owing me money. Now everybody gets the pass go pay as their monthly income, but youre going to have to pay taxes and rent anywhere you land anyway, but dont worry you could always take out a loan from me for that.

Thats the game were playing, sounds kinda hard to win that game.
 
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