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lorax

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has anyone ever done this? i did this once and it was VERY VERY intense! We were sitting in the room of a friends friend when i did it. the others were just on plain shrooms without anything else. it was something around 8:30 to 9 pm.

we were sitting smoking hash. i took my harmala capsules about an hour before taking the mushrooms. then i took the mushrooms. i took a hit from the bong and everything started to get very weird. i watched the face of one of my friends and i started to see that his skin was made up of different layers of interwoven "stuff" i could see through his skin and saw his muscles moving as he talked. i could see his flesh. then he started grinning about something and his eyes left their sockets and started coming twoards me being attached to rainbow strands of transforming rainbow colors. at the same time the eyes came twoard me his teeth began to grow out of his mouth and his tongue became a snakes tongue slithering in and out of his mouth.

this was too much for my mind as i had never before experienced hallucinations which i could not differ from real life materialism. i got a VERY weird feeling i couldnt describe and in the same moment grabbed the trash can which was sitting next to me on the floor and vomited heavily into it. all the guys didn't know (neither did i) what i had gotten myself into and all were like oh shit.. wtf??!

i managed to steer myself to the bathroom where i rinsed my mouth with water. i kept my eyes shut during the rinsing of my mouth and thought to myself this is just the beginning! when i opened my eyes after rinsing my mouth everything including me,(my face, hands and tshirt) was covered in blood and disgusting bits and pieces of flesh. i closed my eyes again and rinsed again. when i opened them everything was clean again. i took a hell of a crap and felt kind of cleansed. i came out of the bathroom hoping that i didn't leave a mess. i still had the picture in my head of it all being covered in blood and guts.

i went back in the living room where they were waiting (a friend was emptying the trashcan with my vomit and i felt very bad for him having to do this for me as i was incapable of it at that point) he told me it was alright and that i shouldn't worry about it.

i lay down in a very nice big leather chair and sunk into my dreams. i saw vast landscapes of biomachinery with transforming colored surfaces. i saw plants, strange beings and constructions. when i opened my eyes i could see the inner being of my friends. everybody had a certain plant attached to his inner part. i told them all what they looked like and with my trip being so intense they told me that i had kind of sucked them into the same vortex and they also had experiences like never before on mushrooms. i must have been directing their trip as i was mumbling what was going on the whole time. kind of like a shaman chanting the stuff that happens in his dreams.

after about 4-5 hours in the chair i got up to take a piss. i was reborn. i talked the others into going outside with me. so we went to the park. i felt like a child. we were on the playground. the same one i played on as a child. i felt joy like never before after puberty. we went on the swing and the merrygoround laughing our asses off.

it was morning by that time.(around 6 o clock) my visual part of the trip continued till about 10 or 11. the rest of the day i was still filled with joy and very weird thoughts. i got really bad acne that day from all the shit the trip had cleansed from me.

this trip convinced me to not take anything for about half a year. i felt so clean in my mind. i also stopped eating meat, fast food and other bad things at that point.

anyone else had any experiences like this with that combo?
 
I dislike rue+shrooms.

I've tried it once, while the effects were indeed potentiated strongly, the overall effect of the two was jittery, electric (not in a good way), metalic, and uncomfortable. I'd rather just up the dosage of mushies than take the rue with it.

that's just me though many enjoy the combo.
 
I dislike rue+shrooms.

I've tried it once, while the effects were indeed potentiated strongly, the overall effect of the two was jittery, electric (not in a good way), metalic, and uncomfortable. I'd rather just up the dosage of mushies than take the rue with it.

that's just me though many enjoy the combo.
 
I have a huge passionflower vine in my yard, never seemed to get any kind of effects out it though. Also heard if you dont dry the leaves whole you will end up with cyanide in the leaves from chemical processes which take place when leaf is mascerated. What dosage were you using for potentiation of mushrooms??
 
That trip sounds Way too intense for me. I like the intensity of a dmt trip because right when i start coming down is the perfect time idk how long i could stay in dmt land with a positive mind for.
 
polytrip said:
Passionflower can potentiate mushrooms just as much, but in a very positive way.
rue is not the ideal potentiater of any tryptamine, i guess.
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SWIM really likes the effect passionflower has on mushrooms. It produces an extremely dreamy pleasant experience. It’s more ayahuasca like, more spiritual.
 
I too dislike Syrian Rue + 'Shrooms.

Next time try Shrooms + any of the following-

Passiflora incarnata
Chocolate Theroborma Cocoa
THH
Caapi
 
Rue+Mushrooms is SWIM's favourite combination! He always does mushrooms combined with rue (or rue-extracted alkaloids)

But considering other people's opinions, better be careful. Definitely worth a try however, just as an experience.
 
Yohimbe+shrooms is one you don't want to try. The combination causes extreme anxiety and paranoia. You can’t sit still for a moment. However, yohimbe is very nice with HBWR.
 
I think that whenever you use something to potentiate tryptamines, you better take something with as little as possible side-effects.
When you use passionflower you better use the right sort. Some types of passionflower are indeed toxic.
 
Hey 69ron, i was thinkning about trying yohimbe one of these days as its easily obtainable at thelocal head shop, what is the experience like on its own?? Is it visual?
 
Theobromine is NICE:) It goes well with pretty much all tryptamines, especially HBWR.

Theobromine is a vasodilator like yohimbe, a much weaker stimulant than yohimbe, and also considered by some to be an aphrodisiac like yohimbe. Both produce pleasant tingling sensations in the body. Although they share many of the same characteristic effects, theobromine is less toxic, and the feeling you get from it is very different. Theobromine produces euphoria and tingling sensation mostly. Yohimbe is slightly psychedelic.

Yohimbe is visual on its own at high doses. The visual effects are minor though and the dosage needed for visual effects will make you nervous and jittery. I’d stay away from high doses of yohimbe. Low doses are extremely good for increasing stamina, far better than caffeine or theobromine. With yohimbe you can keep doing physical activity many times longer than you normally can without feeling worn out, and the following day you feel fine.

Yohimbe goes better with HBWR than any other compound. Like yohimbe, theobromine counteracts the sedative effects of HBWR and counteracts the vasoconstriction effects of HBWR (and mushrooms), but it doesn’t add much to the psychedelic effects, and isn’t quite as effective at counteracting the sedative effects. Yohimbe also increases the visual effects quite a bit. It’s a great combination. Some people like HBWR + theobromine + yohimba. The combination is extremely euphoric, but large doses should probably be avoided.

For use with mushrooms, theobromine is much better than yohimbe. It is in fact common for shamans to drink strong cocoa prior to ingesting mushrooms. Yohimbe is a strong stimulant and its stimulant effects combine with the stimulant effects of psilocybin producing a very unpleasant state, while theobromine’s stimulant effects are very weak, and so it mostly serves to counteract the vasoconstriction effects of psilocybin. It slightly increases the psychedelic effects.
 
fractal enchantment said:
Hey 69ron, i was thinkning about trying yohimbe one of these days as its easily obtainable at thelocal head shop, what is the experience like on its own?? Is it visual?
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It is visual at high doses. Everyone I know who’s tried it has experienced visual effects at high doses. But the dose needed makes you nervous and jittery, and some people notice their heart beating more than usual.

Yohimbe is a vasodilator. It can make you look a little more red than normal (from more blood getting to your skin). This effect is pleasant and causes tingling sensations in the body. This is also useful for ED problem in some people. Like Viagra, yohimbine (the main active compound in yohimbe) is an approved drug for use with ED.

What’s it like?

That’s hard to say. It’s primarily a stimulant. It’s stimulant powers are more effective than caffeine. It feels similar to guarana, or somewhat like a mix of caffeine and ephedrine. It’s also a weak psychedelic. The psychedelic effects are noticeable if you take about 3 times more than an average dose. Your sense of 3D visual awareness is altered, your sense of touch is altered, you feel tingling sensations all over, and you’ll see stream-like visual ripples. These effects are all minor.

Its stimulant effects are similar to certain brands of LSD. The type of LSD that makes people red in the face is similar to how yohimbe feels. I don’t know what additive causes the red face effects found in some brands of LSD, but whatever it is, it’s like that.

When yohimbe is mixed with HBWR, the effects are much more LSD-like. The colors are brighter, the feeling tone is upbeat, you feel energized instead of lethargic, etc. But it doesn’t add any LSD-like “electric” feeling tones to it.
 
Hmm, Im really interesting in this theobromine now. Iknow that mayans used to use chocolate with they're mushrooms, and i know so many people who prefer their shrooms in chocolate, saying the trip is better, though I dont know weather or not the unextraced chocolate is strong enough. Maybe cocoa tea ive seen at the health food store would do it?
 
When they make their cocoa, it's VERY STRONG. It's strong enough for effects and tastes very bitter.

You might like this instead:


Or my favorite:


Three droppers full in some milk is delicious and enough for effects.

Another option is this:


Cola nut has a LOT of theobromine, but it also has some caffeine. It’s more stimulating than the other products. Stand alone, this is the most pleasurable form of theobromine. It has just the right mix of caffeine with it.
 
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