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69Ron's "Triple E" Tech for Elemicin Extraction from Elemi Oil

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sigmundfreuid said:
Has anyone noticed an EXOTHERMIC reaction when mixing their DMSO with water ?
When i mix my 99.7% DMso with 30 % water ,it heats up to like 50 degrees celcius or 122 degrees Fahrenheit .

This could possibly be a reason why my multiple attempts at doing this tek have failed.

Im using distilled water by the way.
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SWIM has been using 100% DMSO for the tech and it works fine; no need to dilute the DMSO

sigmundfreuid said:
Also is it normal that my elemi oil is dissolving plastic ?
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SWIM noticed a 'frosting' effect when SWIM let DMSO sit in a plastic vessel so SWIM switched to a glass vessel
 
Is the "elemi x" not just dmso extracted elemi oil? I thought that was what they (fv) were doing. If it is...then extracting with dmso is pointless. I haven't tried the product so I am not sure.

Just to add a note: I performed the triple E and tested 1 ml of elemi oil that smelled like I read it should. I felt a nice change in perception but it was not strong. I will be redosing in a few days with 2 ml.
 
SWIM had 1ml of elemi x at 2:45, he waited three hours to see if any effects occured. SWIM felt a slight visual and head space change but nothing much. At 5:50 SWIM took ~400mg of piracetam, a small dose. He felt the piracetam kick in but still no psychedelic effects. At 7 SWIM took 100mg of mescaline. I will report back what happens to SWIM in a few hours.
 
SWIM performed the Triple E w 2ml elemi oil (smells like nutmeg) + 10ml DMSO

T+0:40 Slight mood lift (possibly placebo)
T+3:00 Baseline

SWIM is frustrated w these results and SWIM's girlfriend is frustrated w the DMSO scent coming from SWIM's skin
 
SWIM has used 0.25-0.5 ml of nutmeg oil. Very nice. I'm not sure how many drops that is. I'll have to check on that and get back to you.

Note that it’s better if extracted with the Triple E tech.
 
Okay, so, to update my above post. As some of you might assume, since I didn't write back something must have went well. If you did think that, then you are correct.

The elemi x by itself doesn't do very much for SWIM. It does a little, SWIM feels it, but it is very subtle. I think it wouldn't do very much even if SWIM took the whole bottle (15ml){not that SWIM will since that is dumb and unsafe}, even though others suggest otherwise. I will actually be surprised if elemicin by itself causes a true and strong psychedelic experience (for most people) with no off putting side effects. I could see how elemicin and mystricin could together create that experience though, something we should look into.

Anyway, SWIM had 100mg of mescaline four hours after eating the elemi x. For three hours SWIM didn't notice much change at all. Weird because the mescaline should have kicked in t minus two hours. SWIM is assuming the huge meal he ate directly after eating the mescaline slowed down the absorption and thus the effects from taking hold. Any hoo, at around 10:45 [3 hours 45 minutes after eating the mescaline], SWIM realizes he is actually tripping, and very nicely. This experience increases for about three or four hours and then fades slowly over several hours. It was not only a mescaline trip, SWIM was sure of this. He could feel the elemicin in his body, it is very distinctive. SWIM pupils were huge, not normal for the 100mg of mescaline. SWIM concludes that elemicin synergies really well with mescaline; and LSA probably, as well as other things, maybe even DMT. Elemicin and mescaline was a really nice trip, with a lot of euphoria. On thursday, SWIMs birthday, he will be taking a larger dose of mescaline and elemi x together at the same time. Those results will be posted. (Note, for others who will likely try this combo, start small, very little is known of the interaction between elemicin and mescaline, it could be dangerous.)

Also, no caffeine was taken this time, so no headaches or pains involved. Though SWIM did notice a elastic pulling type pressure in his brain. SWIM is sure the elemicin has this effect, its not too bad.

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Does anyone else smell strongly of DMSO the day after dosing on elemi via the triple E tek?

Ive done this twice..both times I got several comments about a "Strange" odor.... not nutmeg... the descriptions I get range from kinda seaweedy or like fresh non-stinky fish. either way...its a bummer. Going to try elemi oil non-extracted next time.

Are we sure that the elemi X is dmso -free? because that alone would be worth the extra price over straight elemi oil.
 
Do anyone know how FV removes the DMSO? Several water pulls should theoretically do the job, but it doesn't seem like that work.
 
^As far as I understand, FV doesn't use any DMSO in the process of getting the elemi x. It is steam distilled out at a specific temperature that eliminates most of the other essential oils.
 
I hope I can find another use for my bottle of DMSO because seriously everyone I worked with today asked about the smell.

sent FV an email asking about the elemi x and a couple hours later I got this.


There are a few formulas of Elemi X (X1, X2, and now X3). The first two formulas are weaker than X3. Our current formula is X3. None of these formulas contain any traces of DMSO, nor was DMSO ever used in any of these products at any point during the extraction. DMSO is not approved by the FDA as a food grade solvent. We only use food grade ingredients in all of our herb extracts.

Elemi X is made from 100% pure therapeutic grade steam distilled elemi essential oil. How we extract the elemicin from the essential oil is a trade secret. We do not use anything that is not food grade. Once the elemicin is extracted its diluted in a base of food grade vegetable glycerin. The impurities present in Elemi X are distilled drinking water, traces of good grade vegetable oil, and traces of compounds found in original elemi oil. There is no DMSO, no alcohol, or anything else present.

While the extract is 100% food grade, it's sold for use as a fragrance, and not for internal use.
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So.... sounds great to me. and check out FV getting right back to me about a question. (they have always been good to me...but I know some of you have had issues with there customer service)
 
Madcapv2 said:
Does anyone else smell strongly of DMSO the day after dosing on elemi via the triple E tek?
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SWIM has experienced this undesirable effect every time SWIM has taken "elemi elixir" containing DMSO, as have SWIM's roommate and various online contacts

SWIM hopes that FV's "trade secret" will get leaked... DMSO is awful shit!
 
damiana said:
The elemi x by itself doesn't do very much for SWIM. It does a little, SWIM feels it, but it is very subtle. I think it wouldn't do very much even if SWIM took the whole bottle (15ml)
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I don’t know about this elemi x stuff, but with elemi oil, the effects are pretty subtle until you get to the point that your whole body is strongly tingling. At that point you start having definite hallucinogenic effects.

Did you reach the dosage level that causes strong tingling in the body, almost like you’re about to go numb? A dose lower than that isn’t really hallucinogenic by itself. I’m guessing that you didn’t reach that level of tingling sensations from the elemicin because you didn't mention it, and you just need a higher dose.

For SWIM 2 ml of elemi oil (extracted with DMSO) is absolutely psychedelic. Not just a hint of it.
 
magickpencil said:
Madcapv2 said:
Does anyone else smell strongly of DMSO the day after dosing on elemi via the triple E tek?
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SWIM has experienced this undesirable effect every time SWIM has taken "elemi elixir" containing DMSO, as have SWIM's roommate and various online contacts
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Other than the body odor thing (which SWIM doesn't notice at all, but his wife does), I can't see anything wrong with using DMSO. SWIM doesn’t mind it one bit, but his wife doesn't like the DMSO body odor. Is there a way to cover that up? Is there maybe a vitamin or something similar you can take that will prevent that?
 
The reason for the bad odor is the same reason for the bad odor after eating garlic. When the allicin from garlic is metabolized, sulfur compounds is excreted through the breath and sweat. The same thing happens when you eat DMSO, which also is a sulfur containing compound.

There's no way to actually remove the smell - except by avoiding garlic and DMSO, as the sulfur has to be excreted. The best way would be to wash your body well. Home remedies include washing with lemon, eucalyptus, menthol and camphor.
 
Yeah... i can't smell it either... that actually makes it worse because I just don't know how bad I actually smell.

I am going to try straight up non-extracted elemi in a couple days.
 
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