A few jungle questions

[Phlux-]

Okay so jurema is orally active without an maoi - is extracted jungle spice oraly active alone ?
if jungle is taken oraly with spice is that active ?

 

[amor_fati]

See here: "Jungle Spice" - Mystery Alkaloids of Mimosa Root Bark - DMT Discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

SWIM's had no luck so far, although encapsulation hasn't been the most reliable mode of ingesting pharmahuasca anyway, SWIM still suspects a higher dose is needed.

 

[Entropymancer]

There are substantial implications that jungle spice is active alone, and will inhibit MAO enough for at least a relatively short DMT experience. It is clearly substantially different than harmaline/harmine/THH mixed with DMT.

This is a subject that could use some more clarification though. I'd be interested if more people have tried it, how much they used, etc.

II.4 Reports of Oral Activity

I have eaten capsules packed full of this extract and its definitely active without an MAOI - seems those other alkaloids in there will work as MAOI's enough to activate the DMT for an hour or so - it just feels like DMT and nothing else. But if I ate some harmaline extract or moclobemide beforehand, those other alkaloids do work orally and really ruin the DMT experience.19

Also it does make DMT orally active, I can put 2-300mg's in a capsule and eat it, and it will feel like a weak-ish dose of DMT, and not last that long, and I don't feel the other alkaloids. But if I do take harmaline, it tends to activate these nasties and make the experience, well, suck completely.20

Hey, swim said to pass along the word that the red spice IS orally active. He filled a small gel cap with it and dosed it about 10-15 minutes before downing a 10 g brew of Seattle strain A. muscaria.... Very freaking nice. Wow... man that stuff did something... don’t ask what because what little he remembers , he couldn't put into words. Felt like he was chained down with iron weights though. Hardcore body-buzz from the red stuff. Swim did not properly weigh/assay amount, he just eyeballed but it was a standard sized vitamin gel cap packed tight. (Editor's Note: Obviously combining the material with A muscaria undermines the applicability of this report, but it's been included for the sake of completeness)17

SWIM informs me that he has just taken an oral dose of 150 mg. This shall see if this is orally active without the use of an MAOI, this was taken on an empty stomach.... no additives, he is on no medications prescription or otherwise... SWIM knows this is probably a very large dose if active and as potent as people say, but SWIM couldn't measure it very well, when he tried to scrape it up, it turned into dark orange goo, he could not put that shit on a scale, so he weighed an empty capsule and then dabbed some in and weighed it again, at first it was like 300+ mg...SWIM took out as much as he could, but could only get it down to about 150.... at this point he said, "fuck it" and popped the capsule. It has been nearly 3 hours since SWIM consumed the capsulated dose of “yuremamine”....SWIM reports minimal results, slight body-buzz, mental cloudiness and very, VERY slight visual disturbances.(Editor's note: This report, from a different subject, is likewise problematic, in that his description of the weighing process indicates that the dose may have been substantially smaller than reported, based on operator error)17