Any other daily travellers here?

[Qoniaq]

Hi All,

I am now celebrating exactly one year of daily excusions (barring a day or two here and there when I was away on business). The journey has been enlightening, to say the least. Each trip logged, catalogued, analyzed and in integration or integrated. Of course, I have over 30 years of logs to add to, but the last year has been....different. Incredible even.

Going in everyday is not like a one off or a 'once in a while' experience. With familiarity comes filtering, and conditions. Launch dynamics become crucial, confidence replaces fear, the map becomes visible, manifestation replaces movement, the whole body becomes the receiver, not just the mind, and the process, the structure of the experience becomes more...important? Maybe important is not the right word...More 'present' than the exhibits/environments presented.

I am wondering if there is anyone else here who is doing this now or has had similar experiences. I would like to discuss your travels, and in particular, how the spice has evolved for you over extended periods of time. Dosing, phenomenological effects, lessons etc. In particular, if your lessons have evolved, changed or updated along with your practice and confidence? Is the teacher still teaching you fractions, when you have moved on to trigonometry? Or have the lessons evolved in tandem to your development? In particular, I would like to have other points of view. Lived ones, not hypotheticals.

I do my sessions in the early morning, before the rest of the household wakes. Sometimes right after a shower, sometimes right in bed. This proximity to sleep, and hypnagogic states has also revealed some deeply interesting realities presented by ol' Deemzy. Anyone else ever wake up, grab the vape and go right in? (Ever done full entry at initial HeartRates lower than 60? It's effing weird, right?...Just sayin! swett jeebuz. Not doin' that again!!!)

Now, with practice, even at full doses, I keep my HR at or under 75 now. My favored entry HR is now 70-72. No lower, and prefereably no higher, It gives me the best results. It can spike to 80-85 during initial ''relocation'', and comes back down within 2-3 breaths. (I use HR tracking for each entry)

Anyway, throwing a line out to see if there any other daily drivers out there. If they are some anywhere, they will be here.

FYI I make my own, and am currently on the 5th extract of the year. This one yielded over 2gs from 100g of MHRB. I use a STB method and do not wash my crystals. I make my carts at 700mg plus about .3ml of PG only, I use ceramic CCel carts on an Uni 3.0 set to 4.2 volts. My 'training session' doses are usually 2 pulls of 8 or 9 seconds. so 2/3 breakthrough doses. This allows me to hover at the threshold, while still retaining enough agency to observe the entry dynamics. On the weekends, I try and incorporate what I have learned during my 'psychedelic gym' morning sessions into improving my entry dynamics on full run hits (usually around 25-30 secs total intake in 2 hits of 13-15 secs each.)

Voila, looking to see if anyone else out there is doing this.
Cheers all. Safe travels!
Q

 

[DrMarnie]

Hi All,

I am now celebrating exactly one year of daily excusions (barring a day or two here and there when I was away on business). The journey has been enlightening, to say the least. Each trip logged, catalogued, analyzed and in integration or integrated. Of course, I have over 30 years of logs to add to, but the last year has been....different. Incredible even.

Going in everyday is not like a one off or a 'once in a while' experience. With familiarity comes filtering, and conditions. Launch dynamics become crucial, confidence replaces fear, the map becomes visible, manifestation replaces movement, the whole body becomes the receiver, not just the mind, and the process, the structure of the experience becomes more...important? Maybe important is not the right word...More 'present' than the exhibits/environments presented.

I am wondering if there is anyone else here who is doing this now or has had similar experiences. I would like to discuss your travels, and in particular, how the spice has evolved for you over extended periods of time. Dosing, phenomenological effects, lessons etc. In particular, if your lessons have evolved, changed or updated along with your practice and confidence? Is the teacher still teaching you fractions, when you have moved on to trigonometry? Or have the lessons evolved in tandem to your development? In particular, I would like to have other points of view. Lived ones, not hypotheticals.

I do my sessions in the early morning, before the rest of the household wakes. Sometimes right after a shower, sometimes right in bed. This proximity to sleep, and hypnagogic states has also revealed some deeply interesting realities presented by ol' Deemzy. Anyone else ever wake up, grab the vape and go right in? (Ever done full entry at initial HeartRates lower than 60? It's effing weird, right?...Just sayin! swett jeebuz. Not doin' that again!!!)

Now, with practice, even at full doses, I keep my HR at or under 75 now. My favored entry HR is now 70-72. No lower, and prefereably no higher, It gives me the best results. It can spike to 80-85 during initial ''relocation'', and comes back down within 2-3 breaths. (I use HR tracking for each entry)

Anyway, throwing a line out to see if there any other daily drivers out there. If they are some anywhere, they will be here.

FYI I make my own, and am currently on the 5th extract of the year. This one yielded over 2gs from 100g of MHRB. I use a STB method and do not wash my crystals. I make my carts at 700mg plus about .3ml of PG only, I use ceramic CCel carts on an Uni 3.0 set to 4.2 volts. My 'training session' doses are usually 2 pulls of 8 or 9 seconds. so 2/3 breakthrough doses. This allows me to hover at the threshold, while still retaining enough agency to observe the entry dynamics. On the weekends, I try and incorporate what I have learned during my 'psychedelic gym' morning sessions into improving my entry dynamics on full run hits (usually around 25-30 secs total intake in 2 hits of 13-15 secs each.)

Voila, looking to see if anyone else out there is doing this.
Cheers all. Safe travels!
Q

Hello friend – I am also a daily user although 75% of the time, I aim for a sub-breakthrough experience. Sometimes the DMT realm has a different plan for me! Happy to chat with you about it.
I have developed a 20 minute technique I call the “DMT check-in-20”, as it takes about 20 minutes total. I think sub 1breakthrough experiences are not discussed often enough or appreciated for what they can teach you about yourself and the inner workings and manifestations of your mind. To do this I generally will slowly draw on a 700ml cart (in 1g liquid), by slowly I mean maybe three or four 5 to 6 second hits.
Excited to chat

 

[Jamie01]

In the past yes but I will be honest it felt in retrospect maybe too often and impossible to integrate at that frequency. With less often 1-2 times a month I find the whole experience to be more beneficial and a deeper reset.

I don’t know why I did it so much in the past other than I thought I was going to get somewhere…but it’s the same place I’m always trying to get to when I take psychedelics no matter the frequency so I concluded more does not = more for myself.

 

[Qoniaq]

Hello friend – I am also a daily user although 75% of the time, I aim for a sub-breakthrough experience. Sometimes the DMT realm has a different plan for me! Happy to chat with you about it.
I have developed a 20 minute technique I call the “DMT check-in-20”, as it takes about 20 minutes total. I think sub 1breakthrough experiences are not discussed often enough or appreciated for what they can teach you about yourself and the inner workings and manifestations of your mind. To do this I generally will slowly draw on a 700ml cart (in 1g liquid), by slowly I mean maybe three or four 5 to 6 second hits.
Excited to chat

My daily runs are usually sub breakthrough as well, but still higher threshold, or exhibut district, or what ever word one chooses. with the right dosing, I can 'fall into' a stabilized breakthrough regime if I stay still at the end of my exhale. It's like a window that opens until i decide to take the next inhale. So the pattern is one of : Dose, carrier wave, intial entry, approach upper threshold, coherence gate entry on exhale, return to upper threshold on inhale. My normal morinng runs last 8 minutes of higher regimes, then depending on the mornings sometimes I redose, sometimes not. My average is something like ''In at 0525, took 2X8 secs, redosed 6 secs at 0545, out at 0555'' This schedule give me between 30-35 entries per cart (I average between 700 and 750 seconds total puff time on a cart). I used to make less concentrated carts as well (more like 500mg) for moring sessions and seperate carts for breakthrough days. Now I make all 700mg, and use only the 1st and 2nd pulls from my extracts. later pulls (more orange and 'gunky') I put aside. I probably have a dozen grams lying around of stuff I just don't bother putting in a cart! Maybe a monster changa run one day.
One of the things that has been interesting in this endeavour is my awareness of the structure of the experience. Before, I would be enthralled by the visuals, the entities, the geometry. Now, that has changed, I have learned to control my attention, and where i choose to place it. I can ignore the distraction entities and chaotic visuals of the pre-breakthrough exhibit district. I can pass the coherence gate at entry without any physical or emotional fear, and I transition in a blink now. However, the content of the post breakthrough stable regimes has changed dramatically. The environment has gone from entity or narrative driven to one of somatic experience. I no longer feel the effects in the mind alone. I can 'zoom' in on specific feelings in different parts of the body and organs, something the novelty of 'every now and then' experiences seems to hide. I have had the chance to spend enough time in the pre-breakthrough stages of the trip, that I can now clearly dentify where I am in the experience, what the next stages are, and even affect the time it takes to transition between these states. I have noticed that I can seperate myself from the expereience itself and actually observe my 'self' having the experience. This has greatly reduced stress, anxiety and pre launch nerves. I would not say I am more brave, but more confident. Not in what I will see (we can't decide that...at least I can't yet), but in my ability to remain coherent when the whole univers deemz out of normality. I don't know what the weather will be, but I am now much more confident that I can weather the strom, should one show up.
I have had a few more ''difficult'' full breathrough outings this year, of course, but I have met them differently than when I was an occasional traveller. Before, the 'hyperslaps' (so called) were experienced as it they were happening TO ME. Now, with training, when it has happened, I was able to say 'oh look, this is something the wetware is experiencing righ now. Let's see what this is. Oh, difficult transtition? Maybe a bad entry dynamic? Ok, let's X that out.' and it stabilizes.
the 'Mental X' and what I call the 'inner smile' have been the biggest take away lessons so far. I wonder if you have encoutered these skills? So the mental X is somethign discovered I could to with intrusive throughts or persistent thought loops that stopped my forward movement in the space. I have seen that I can 'seperate' myself from the thought. I am not the thought,. I am the thing observing the observer of the thought. When I do that, a windows style 'X' can be 'clicked' and the thought eliminated. This technique has actually followed me into daily life, and has been very useful. As has the inner smile. I find that humor, a smile and a general lack of over-seriousness reallly helps the state transition from baseline reality to DMT space. that inner smile, which is a transition aid, has been a godsend in daily life as well. I can recall it when I feel stress, anger, frustration...I remember the inner smile,and I can go over it.
As for the right out of bed entries. Have you had any experience with hynagogic DMT (for lack of a better word). So, a few times, I have hit the vape right after waking, before exiting the bed. HR at upper 50s, or really low 60s. These are (at least for me, after so many years interogating the molecule) the strangest, most disorienting and just effing bizarre trips I have ever had. It's like you fall back asleep, and the deemz takes over the dream. As you all know, the DMT space is not at all like the dreamspace, not matter what any non-travellers may say. We all know it's not the same at all. Now, mix the 2. You are like in a dream, so no knowledge of how you got there, where you came from, or even of having taken deemz at all. You just 'wake up' in a dream space that is made up of the DMT world. But you are not aware you are in it. the level of confusion is insane. Any of this ever happen to you?
After a year, my feeling is this: There is no greater teacher of meditation than lower-dose DMT. Breathing, autonomic nervous repsonse, control of the vagus nerve, state conditioning, focus, attention. These are the tools I have been moved to work on. Not chasing visions, but understanding state, understanding conditions, and gates. Any of this ring a bell with you?
what are your takeaways?
and hey! thanks to answering and letting me know I,m not alone!!

 

[Qoniaq]

Another thing that sticks out is this :''The molecule alone does not determine the experience.. The rate of entry also does.'' In other words, it,s not always about how much you take, it is as much about How you take it. The entry dynamics. How you meet it. We cannot decide what we see, only how we meet it. And entry dynamics, entry speed, resistance against structure, which 'you' is meeting the state are all as deeply involved in the session as the dose. these are things the fast moving and chaotic 'occasional' DMT sessions seem to be blind to. The entrance state training has changed that for me. The focus has moved from 'what did I see'' to ''How did I get there.'' Anyone else have this?

 

[brettsta]

Hello mate , na your not alone on this epic quest but I am struggling getting my head round
doing it every day . Like you I'm not the occasionally traveler, but it appears we all have our own way of doing it.
The way I do it , doing it every day wouldn't work , infact my brain will break !!
The only time I do a sub Breakthrough is outside in the woods or garden , Other than that my experiences are late at night and all in balls in all .
In my experience the main event is what DMT is all about . And it can take me a week trying to process the pure incredablness of what just happened.

I try to average twice a month, sometimes I'll do two or three in a row then I leave it a few months.
But mostly I go with what feels right .
I don't use a cart , I use a desk vape ( volcano) loaded with 60+mg every time , .

Like you I've learned a few tricks on the way , one is breathwork is a superpower in that world . and most importantly it's all about where the mind is at , a slight negative energy will give in kind ,
As soon as your aware of this , your somewhere else .
so maybe that means we are in control, it's up to us where we go! !! . Asif

 

[chetsingssoftly111]

thanks for sahring, i make changa, and check in once haevily every five years or so, 15 min mediation in, 15 min trip (either, two or three hits), window box breath work, always sitting on the floor and i keep my spine straight and sit in a half lotus position, usually and then after 15 minutes i always meditate for another 15 minutes before standing up again, so while dosing its 45 minutes start to finish, breath work is huge here and i like my heart rate low, 70s ish and get there after about 10 minutes of small, slow breaths generally nostral only, in thru the nostral out thru the mouth,

candles are nice for the first session,
but if onw doses the next day they might be too bright, i start with three candles, then two, then, one, then none, then switch to water fallas like a cheap desktop. the sound provides the key aspect to let one know the session is over and all is well etc. same thing for music,

at first one wants the music medium level , but after a few sessions, youll want mostly just silence. this is all depending on if ur dosing during the day or night.

i prefer night, either outside by a creek with a water fall, favorite location was the lourve france, but indoors near a fire is fun or fire place, when smoling with a pipe make sure to practice setting the pipe down in the location its going to sit while ur sitting, else you might fall over and then burn urself on the pipe and dont use a water bong, youll just spill and break it.

the important part to remember while dosing is, much like sking, not to foget, that ur in the nexus.

 

[Qoniaq]

Hello mate , na your not alone on this epic quest but I am struggling getting my head round
doing it every day . Like you I'm not the occasionally traveler, but it appears we all have our own way of doing it.
The way I do it , doing it every day wouldn't work , infact my brain will break !!
The only time I do a sub Breakthrough is outside in the woods or garden , Other than that my experiences are late at night and all in balls in all .
In my experience the main event is what DMT is all about . And it can take me a week trying to process the pure incredablness of what just happened.

I try to average twice a month, sometimes I'll do two or three in a row then I leave it a few months.
But mostly I go with what feels right .
I don't use a cart , I use a desk vape ( volcano) loaded with 60+mg every time , .

Like you I've learned a few tricks on the way , one is breathwork is a superpower in that world . and most importantly it's all about where the mind is at , a slight negative energy will give in kind ,
As soon as your aware of this , your somewhere else .
so maybe that means we are in control, it's up to us where we go! !! . Asif

hi Asif
my daily sessions are more focused on meditation, and just trying to nudge, or wiggle the consciousness, so I can better "see" it..my breakthrough sessions are all in, like you. they are 2 very different experiences, with different purposes. doing it daily is a kind of training regime for me. training for better and more stable breakthroughs and memories of those breakthroughs when I go there. also for the daily real life benefits it has presented such as mindfulness, centering, stress dissolution. too many to list.
I am not training the molecule. I am training the nervous system that must remain stable while the cosmos explodes in front of me in its deemzy glory.
I forgot to mention that my dailybsessions had made my breakthrough sessions orders if magnitude smoother, cleaner and much more stable, resulting in much greater memory retention afterwards. its done the same for my dreams. oddly. I remember them vividly and for days after if needed...

 

[brettsta]

hi Asif
my daily sessions are more focused on meditation, and just trying to nudge, or wiggle the consciousness, so I can better "see" it..my breakthrough sessions are all in, like you. they are 2 very different experiences, with different purposes. doing it daily is a kind of training regime for me. training for better and more stable breakthroughs and memories of those breakthroughs when I go there. also for the daily real life benefits it has presented such as mindfulness, centering, stress dissolution. too many to list.
I am not training the molecule. I am training the nervous system that must remain stable while the cosmos explodes in front of me in its deemzy glory.
I forgot to mention that my dailybsessions had made my breakthrough sessions orders if magnitude smoother, cleaner and much more stable, resulting in much greater memory retention afterwards. its done the same for my dreams. oddly. I remember them vividly and for days after if needed...

I do see where your coming from , I have at times randomly switch on a vape just to see how much residual is left, And after a good pull I've been pleasantly surprised to see the fabric of the realm peering back at me and giving up just a few forgotten memories.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Guilty as charged. Sometimes more than once in a day. Also avid about sub-breakthrough and low dose, but the space will take me when it wants me.

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