Consciousness

[northape]

That's right, there is no spoon/box.

We create whatever we believe, and believe whatever we create.

We are in the ultimate freedom of the Flux.

Yes, ultimately we're the box itself. There is a bigger reality out there, but we can't know anything about it because of the box's boundaries. Our thinking is immediately conditioned by the fundamental assumption of the box. So no amount of mental struggle is going to free us. Both the one getting free and what he gets free from are one and the same. The only solace here is that we're mistaken about our reality - the box is just an illusion.

Let's take a room in a house for example. It feels substantial and real, yet when the walls crumble we see the space that was always here. The room was a temporary illusion. In the same way, our ego or the box is an imaginal attempt to separate a part from the whole. Why imaginal? Because you can't cut space or separate it in any way. At some point we forgot that we put these limits on ourselves and are just playing inside the box, thinking that's all there is. However, the box is possible only due to the underlying space, which is of a higher order.

The exit is simple then - see the illusion for what it is. You can call the bigger space God, put a name-form on it, and go back that way. Maybe you prefer just putting your attention on the space itself and seeing that there are no limits anywhere. Finally, you can investigate the box and find how real it is. We're not stuck, but ignorant.

 

[pouyam9]

Also, when Jesus says, “I and the Father are one,” the statement does not refer to the physical body of Jesus, but to consciousness itself.

Within the Human Matrix framework, the Father can be understood as universal consciousness , the unbounded consciousness field that exists beyond individual form.

The Son represents localized consciousness limited to human form, expressed through Jesus as an individual human experience.

The Holy Spirit functions as the connective medium between universal and localized consciousness, allowing the universal field to manifest through human awareness. In this model, all three aspects of the Trinity are different expressions or levels of the same underlying consciousness.


Universal consciousness becomes localized through limitation within the human nervous system , creating the experience of separate selves and individual identity.

 

[northape]

Also, when Jesus says, “I and the Father are one,” the statement does not refer to the physical body of Jesus, but to consciousness itself.

I see what you mean, but I wouldn't remove the body from the equation in this day and age. All the teachings were produced in much calmer and more natural epochs. Today, we are so disconnected from nature, and our main task is to reunite with it. It shows even here with verbose answers and a focus on the mental side of life. We in the West are even more lost than other cultures. Both the tantric tradition and psychedelics put a big emphasis on the feminine or embodied part of the experience. No matter what you think, there is no liberation without the body. Yes, the notion of what the body is and how we relate to it will change, but you can't get far without it. That's just part of our work here, imo.

"The physical body is simply how conscious processes look when observed from the outside."
- Bernardo Kastrup