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Dear Nexus; I've Realized I Am an Addict and a Loser
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What parts resonate most for you? It's nice that this thread resurfaces from time to time
The points about people being addicted to negative emotions, and that there is peace behind it.What parts resonate most for you? It's nice that this thread resurfaces from time to time
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I was reading The Book of Secrets by Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh one night long ago when I came to a similar epiphany: my dysphoria is self-created. It's not that the world is bad – it's my perspective of it that makes it so. It all goes back to is the glass half empty or half full? And me: I was bitching about wanting a milk shake instead.
What you have is what you have, and what you want – as long as it's feasible – can be worked toward.
What you have is what you have, and what you want – as long as it's feasible – can be worked toward.
I'm gonna throw a monkey wrench out of curiosity.
For me it's not a glass half empty or half full, it's just half a glass, that is, both half empty and half full.
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There is currently a civil war in Sudan and extreme famine. What if you were Sudanese living in Sudan.
For me it's not a glass half empty or half full, it's just half a glass, that is, both half empty and half full.
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Feels like the next stage of personal evolution, compared to a black & white vision. When you start to see shades, maturity is around the corner.
This world is both hell and heaven simultaneously. Many live in different realities, but it's still one whole. May all wars cease. May all be well
Then it would take a supreme amount of skill to see the good in it. No one can be blamed for not being able to do so, I'm not able to do so with problems that are basically irrelevant next to that. That doesn't mean it's impossible.
And, surprisingly, often (not always) when you talk to people that have lived in warzones you realize that at some point they got used to it, and managed to live in a mental state not that different from people living in a much more comfortable situation. Sometimes better.
The same is found sometimes (again, not always) in the testimonies of people living in brutal internment camps. I recently read a book on the psychological reactions of prisoners that lived in Maoist prisons and underwent a "reeducation" program, and the author was surprised to find that despite brutal torture (both psychological and physical) around a third of them ended up adapting to it and feeling relatively content.
Reminds me of Stockholm syndrome... my point still stands.
Also, focus on the famine part. The inability to find food to eat.
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Sorry, I cant feel my fingers right now.
I'm not arguing that they're more likely to have a good life or anything, in such an extreme situation the opposite is much more likely. However, the fact that even in extreme situations there are people who can be more or less content is evidence of it being made in the mind, not the opposite.
That doesn't mind that the problems of people in such situations come from their mind, or that what they need is a mental change. I think people need some basics in order to realistically be able to aspire to happiness, even if there are exceptions: basic shelter, enough food, enough health (or access to medicine), physical safety. From there is all in the mind.
To argue that the world is bad because there are people in extreme suffering (and I'm not saying you're arguing that) is similar to arguing that the world is good because there are people in extreme bliss. In my opinion, it's neither good nor bad. There are both elements.
I'm not arguing at all 
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I think it's overgeneralization to put all of the responsibility of whether we see the world as good or bad strictly on our individual shoulders. It's much more nuanced than that.
The people that are able to find contentment are also exceptions and we can't have their expectation just because they exist.
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jkKinda what I'm getting at. But even then, it's not all in the mind either. The world and the mind are in concert with each other.
I think it's overgeneralization to put all of the responsibility of whether we see the world as good or bad strictly on our individual shoulders. It's much more nuanced than that.
The people that are able to find contentment are also exceptions and we can't have their expectation just because they exist.
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I agree, I don't see both as separate.
In very difficult living situations (and that's not some clear cut category, as you say there are many nuances) for sure.
I personally never apply this perspective when thinking about other people, as I don't really know their circumstances or how being them "feels from the inside". But for my own life, I find it both true and helpful. After all, only I can truly do something for myself, beyond the basics.
I see it as taking care of a plant that I didn't sow. I didn't choose its soil or other conditions, and that may put some hard limits (or baseline boosts) to its growth. But there's no use worrying about that, I have to work with what I have.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't do as much as we can to help others have a better soil to grow on, when possible. As there are examples like the one you mentioned when people are actively destroying the terrain where thousands or millions of other plants grow.
This is very similar to that other discussion you guys were having in that other thread
Uh oh, am I beating a dead horse again. Blame my memoryThis is very similar to that other discussion you guys were having in that other thread
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It's OK, I'm just trying to keep the thread on-topic by reminding you which one we're in:Uh oh, am I beating a dead horse again. Blame my memory
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Dear Nexus; I've Realized I Am an Addict and a Loser
Greetings Citizens of the Nexus, I have partaken of the spice many times, and I realized something important, that I am an addict and a loser. I know a lot of you nexians think high of yourselves, and that you are well off, etc…. but I still think people out there are addicted losers like me...
forum.dmt-nexus.me
And which thread was this kindred conversation in?
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Depending on your perspectives on life, it could be the perfect situation. You can do things that otherwise would be frowned upon.
Being nice to other people is nothing but an interpretation of what is good or bad. What is sane to one is insane to another.
We typically align our interpretations to form a society. But they will always be interpretations of a situation. Neither right nor wrong, they just are.
And to stay aligned with the OP. Letting go (loosing) of perspectives will free you from your addiction to those perspectives. Rest assured however, that when loosing a perspective, it will simply replaced by another. We are, after all, all addicts to Life.
My point is that some of our perspectives of it "just being a matter of perspective," may come from a place of privilege.
Focus on the famine part. There's not much to consider doing that would be otherwise frowned upon if you don't have the calories and therefore energy to do it.
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Focus on the famine part. There's not much to consider doing that would be otherwise frowned upon if you don't have the calories and therefore energy to do it.
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Hm, some bits of "Freedom and modern systems of control" were reminiscent, but there may also have been another one. When there's too much philosophy I kind of switch off to details, just like the average person when I talk about chemistry
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