TEK First extraction-tek&pics what do u think?

[Glibglob]

So I wanted to document my first dealings with MHRB bark extraction. I read all of the teks on the wiki and didn’t wanna stick to one buying a million different solvents etc. I kinda just wanted to see how it would work if I threw it all together and these are my results as well as my technique I’d like to hear your thoughts. Critiques and i do have a couple of general questions.

So I started with 100 GMHRB powdered and mixed it into a glass media bottle with 600ml of spring water , in a separate media bottle I mixed 200 mil of spring water and slowly in three parts added 30 g of lie and 10 g of sea salt, I starred the bark around with the glass, stirring rod and let it sit while I prepped the lye mixture, the lie salt water was put in a bowl of cold saline water with ice to keep the temperature down” read it in a comment”

I then mix the lye salt mixture into the bottle and then immediately turned black upon mixing, I closed the jar and flipped it over a couple of times and shook it periodically over the next four or five hours and let’s sit for another 20 totaling 24 hours soaking in the basify soup solution.

At around 65 Fahrenheit, I did my first pull 100 ML of napatha was added and i then shook the bottle for a couple of minutes and let settle for 20 minutes then went in with a turkey baster and pulled out that initial bit but it seemed i lost a good oz of napatha , second i tried 100ml again and the same seemed to happen i got yellowish liquid with some loss of naptha. I added 10g more lye and 5g sea salt to this mix before letting it sit overnight .

After letting air dry a white crystalline product was available Yielding.457 mg and the second .183g
Pics 1-6

The next day I returned 24 hours later to do my remaining pulls really it’s a test to see how much I actually need to use to pull out the alkaloids but after the .183 pull i wasn’t expecting much more but was hoping i would get a better yield .

So this time the soup was as it was originally black soup mix with no separation. I put it on a hot plate and set it on low and let the entire contents of the bottle and the bottle itself heat up. It was about halfway covered with water so I was stirring by swirling it around with the lid closed that proceeded for about 2 1/2 hours until I was ready to pull

When I got the bottle in front of a light, I saw already a clear separation at least 60-70 ML of yellow (darker then first two pulls) Naptha so I decanted that into a Pyrex crystallization dish and proceeded with another two pulls using the reclaimed np from the original batch plus another 250ml or so.

This is where it went a little sideways, that nap that I was trapped after 48 hours had a very little crystallization and the water seemed to have microscopic bits mixed in with it, even after letting it settle this product is yellow, where the first two or white I’m letting them dry now I included pictures of the entire process and result.(PICS 17-"trapped NP "3rd"]18-LAST PULL #5
pic 19 is 4th pull uploaded wrong

The second batch is yellow, opposed to the first that was white. I know there’s much debate on purity and why this happens now I’ll become another person obsessing over it lol

PICS IN ORDER AS I EXTRACTED

plus a pic of my diy changa from the last bit of spice i had that was orange and clumpy amazing stuff. will put easy tek for spice to changa in 1 day for the peeps



I have questions, but they’re not really import at this point if there’s any engagement on the post, I’ll definitely add them

Sorry if there’s any misspelling or grammar issues I’m using talk to text. We all know how that could go.

Cheers everybody

 

[Glibglob]

Hey guys so im replying with my final extraction yield and some yapping as promised

So i had 3 last pulls one cant even count as one i think it was the trapped overnight NP it gave me maybe a dot i mixed that with the last pull (#5) which totaled 183 mg

Pull number 4 was nice, very tiny crystals covered the bottom . Total yield was .683

So in order by each pull
1-.457mg
2-.183
3&4- 168mg. (youll see pic 3&4 were mixed)
5- .400mg

Totaling 1.208 G for 100g mhrb and no specific tek just winging it to get the feel…


You will see that there is some black contaminant in my yellow space. I think it’s from having a joint burning in the room with the dishes uncovered I was finishing it and then about the scrape, you know how those raw papers set up those little black specks in the air

My only choice is to re-ask the yellow powder to get that stuff out. I tried doing it with the scalpel. It’s a bit annoying.

You will also see that in the non-Pyrex knowMy only choice is to RE-X the yellow powder to get that stuff out. I tried doing it with the scalpel. It’s a bit annoying.



You will also see that in the Pyrex dish, not the actual crystallizing dishes. The powder has seem to turn into two consistencies, one like the yellow spice, I pulled as you’ll see in the vial it seems to be only the product stuck to the glass itself the actual crystallized yellow spice on top looks to be fine and has the look & consistency of a normal product

The other stuff is more gummy mind you I dired this for three days in a damp environment im thinking i left it too long .

I just couldn’t get around to it that quick so they are dried all of them but there is a picture showing you the clear bottom of the Pyrex dish and the smudge that becomes the stickier portion you’ll see in the other pictures, is there any reason for this that we know of?

everything was all done at the same temperature in the same room same workspace

I hope you follow along I have more MHRB and I’m planning on doing an A/B next time, but lysing the cells so ill see how that goes. So follow along to see how i can find my way to 2 plus % , by mixing up a bunch of reading an talking to community members we can mix existing teks with different steps to ensure a better and higher yielding product .

Stick with ya boy and see how we do!

 

[Varallo]

Congratulations on your result, it looks very good.

Yes, those black specks in it would definitely raise some concerns, because if it’s something that did come over from your extraction, that means it’s also present in even finer particles, and that’s obviously not something you want to inhale.

So my advice would be to dissolve everything you have now again in naphtha, then wash it briefly with a bit of water that you’ve made slightly basic using sodium carbonate. After that, precipitate it again in the freezer, so you can be sure you end up with a very clean product.

It’s a small extra step, but it will make sure you don’t have to worry about any transfer of highly basic material, and it should also reduce the stickiness you mentioned.

Best of luck with it.

 

[scrypto]

So i also have done my first.

Yesterday morning I added my plant matter to a jar along with an equal weight of caustic soda and water and then put it in a container in the back of my ute with the thought that it will be stirred up while I drive back to Perth from down south.

Today I got back from perth and I filtered my liquid which was a dark black. There was no foaming or anything when I shook it and so I added equal amount of shellite. Ive been shaking the shit out of it every 15 min or so for the last 2 hours.

Currently this is what it looks like.

Whats the suggestion for the next step?

Ill Pull the top layer, add more shellite and shake and wait and pull again and few more times adding each pull together.

Then should I freeze that or let it evaporative in a flat dish infront of a fan?

Appreciate any input.

 

[Glibglob]

View attachment 108387View attachment 108388So i also have done my first.

Yesterday morning I added my plant matter to a jar along with an equal weight of caustic soda and water and then put it in a container in the back of my ute with the thought that it will be stirred up while I drive back to Perth from down south.

Today I got back from perth and I filtered my liquid which was a dark black. There was no foaming or anything when I shook it and so I added equal amount of shellite. Ive been shaking the shit out of it every 15 min or so for the last 2 hours.

Currently this is what it looks like.

Whats the suggestion for the next step?

Ill Pull the top layer, add more shellite and shake and wait and pull again and few more times adding each pull together.

Then should I freeze that or let it evaporative in a flat dish infront of a fan?

Appreciate any input.

I would suck that layer out and put it in the crystallizing dish and then add the same amount of solvent and do it again, I read on a post on someone’s tech on here that after the third pull, they heat the bottle you can opt to do that or try doing the same thing again some people say they get three good pulls some say they get five good calls just keep trying that I reused my nap i’m pretty sure you could do the same with your solvent, but double check

It took off for 36 hours in the freezer in the crystallizing dishes to crystallize 24 wasn’t enough in my fridge goes below zero I don’t know how much below zero.

I would put cling wrap on your crystallizing dishes with your solvent And find a plastic bag a Ziploc freezer bag or produce bag to wrap it in to help with the NP smell
The first run I just put cling wrap and wrapped in a towel and my whole freezer stunk. I can’t have my freezer stanking.


Make sure you dry them out good once you pour your solvent off take a bigger dish lined with paper towels or some sort of parchment paper And tip the dishes so the solvent runs off the sides, just balance the dishes on the edge i didnt use a fan but it would go faster with one, then scrape.

I’m going to do another project if you’re interested, keep your eyes peeled, doing a freeze thaw cycle with the civic bark solution. I’m thinking with cell lysing it can boost yield greatly.

If u dont get much on ur 3rd pull heat that bottle in a hot water bath for a bit then add solvent. As long as u have wuality bark youll get at keast a gram per 100g i got a decent yield for first time winging it

Good luck cheers

 

[Glibglob]

Congratulations on your result, it looks very good.

Yes, those black specks in it would definitely raise some concerns, because if it’s something that did come over from your extraction, that means it’s also present in even finer particles, and that’s obviously not something you want to inhale.

So my advice would be to dissolve everything you have now again in naphtha, then wash it briefly with a bit of water that you’ve made slightly basic using sodium carbonate. After that, precipitate it again in the freezer, so you can be sure you end up with a very clean product.

It’s a small extra step, but it will make sure you don’t have to worry about any transfer of highly basic material, and it should also reduce the stickiness you mentioned.

Best of luck with it.

Honestly, I forgot I brought them into the other room and my joints always put off those little ashes, I mean it wasn’t like that in the original pictures I don’t see any black bits,


I’m gonna do what u said and clean up that one, do you know if I clean it? Is it going to become white? Is there a general consensus on why I would get white crystals on the first two pulls and yellow crystals on the next three?

I wanna try a little bit of both just to see if there’s a difference.

I would think yellow would be more full spectrum, but it might be facts and other stuff as well. I’m gonna do a water wash next round once I get graduated cylinders.

Thanks for posting. I’m really interested in this And would love more feedback I’ll post more on the second one I’m prepping now.

Cheers

 

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@scrypto It looks like you're using a disposable plastic water bottle... idk how dangerous that actually will be, but it's never recommended to use soft plastic like that with a solvent like naphtha.

@Glibglob Hard to read your posts with the duplicate sentences and typos, but I can say it's normal for pulls to get increasingly more yellow. Apparently no one knows why or how to fix it, so keep the white separate.

 

[Glibglob]

@scrypto It looks like you're using a disposable plastic water bottle... idk how dangerous that actually will be, but it's never recommended to use soft plastic like that with a solvent like naphtha.

@Glibglob Hard to read your posts with the duplicate sentences and typos, but I can say it's normal for pulls to get increasingly more yellow. Apparently no one knows why or how to fix it, so keep the white separate.

Sorry for the spelling talk to text is failing me greatly. ILl go back ans clean it up a bit.
Thanks for the advice i was thinking it was the added heat for pull 3-5. Ive only seen it white once mostly its been orange clumps. Happy with the results.

Thanks for commenting

 

[Varallo]

This should answer your color question.

Thread 'IMPORTANT: spice color purity fallacy AKA is your dmt ok to smoke ?'

Apr 14, 2010

I wanted to deal with an issue that commonly arises here. Often people ask 'is this spice ok to smoke', followed by some picture of some crystals or the description of the color of the spice. What I want to argue here is that spice color and how it looks is a very poor indicator of possible impurities, with few exceptions.

Yellow colour can be a number of things:

- Most of the times, yellow DMT is just DMT. Pure DMT itself has been shown to be polymorphic , so yellow does not necessarily mean impurities.

But it can also be other things in some cases :
-Oily...

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[Glibglob]

2nd extraction tweaked recipe and time
40g lye 21g salt in 250 ml -700 ml water 100g bark

Left jn freezer for a while and let soup sit for at least 2 days and freezer 60 hrs 1-2 & 50 fir 3-4-5 but there was a bunch of loose spiceflosting and a white coating on top that balled up on my pipette gooey substance

Will add more later bros tired gonna KO chèersbyall

 

[Glibglob]

This should answer your color question.

Thread 'IMPORTANT: spice color purity fallacy AKA is your dmt ok to smoke ?'

Apr 14, 2010

I wanted to deal with an issue that commonly arises here. Often people ask 'is this spice ok to smoke', followed by some picture of some crystals or the description of the color of the spice. What I want to argue here is that spice color and how it looks is a very poor indicator of possible impurities, with few exceptions.

Yellow colour can be a number of things:

- Most of the times, yellow DMT is just DMT. Pure DMT itself has been shown to be polymorphic , so yellow does not necessarily mean impurities.

But it can also be other things in some cases :
-Oily...

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• Replies: 37
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Best I've ever had was orange dry clumps the white i first got ever wasn't that dreamy and feely . Cheers im gonna check the thread out