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Re: Strassman. Yes he reports Messiah Complex with deeper doses. I have no quibble with that.

What his work doesn’t answer is, what happens if you go deeper? And deeper? What is in the depths? The mystic swims where the psychotic drowns.
You're still swimming in concepts in these states. King of the multiverse (aka god aka messiah) is a common delusion of grandeur when the ego starts being confronted with the bigger sensation/realization that you are a divine primordial extrusion of the cosmos itself. But if that's true, then it's true for everyone. I understand why it's easy to believe you've reached some unique level of depth, since any new layer is always relatively mind blowing, and sure maybe you are. But to be completely honest this sounds to me more like barely dipping the toes in and the ego crowning itself king of hyperspace.
 
Just so you know your not on your own in thinking there is a battle of some kind happening in there !
I often return convinced I've just been in some sort of conflict with another fraction . ??
And yes I am definitely part of one faction , and I am very important and I always feel extremely protected.

So it's not just you that experiences this . I've been experiencing this for a few years . It's beyond doubt that something is happening in there. So relax , you are aware and experienced something 99.99% of humans will never do. That's enough for me .
The battle between good and evil is forever ongoing. It's ultimately an inner battle, and everyone interested should just read the Bhagavad Gita some evening ;)
I don't know about supporting these views in this particular thread, though. I feel one needs a clear head and some distance from the experience to get the right kind of message. When you're fully invested and it starts to crawl into your life, maybe it's time to relax and regroup. That was my point from the beginning.
 
I'm still trying to surf out of the recursive whirlpool of one creating its own reality and therefore there is [n]one. I have not found that crown yet, I will keep looking from my Throne. 😉

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Just so you know your not on your own in thinking there is a battle of some kind happening in there !
I often return convinced I've just been in some sort of conflict with another fraction . ??
And yes I am definitely part of one faction , and I am very important and I always feel extremely protected.

So it's not just you that experiences this . I've been experiencing this for a few years . It's beyond doubt that something is happening in there. So relax , you are aware and experienced something 99.99% of humans will never do. That's enough for me .
Thank you, brettsta. While I haven’t read many others trip reports, you are the first that I’ve heard that has said do feel this “part of one faction, conflict with another faction”. The way I understood most people’s experiences was of the unity and love, which I also felt for most of my experiences. So one can imagine how alarming it felt to feel such intense conflict. Thank you for sharing. Thank you so much.
 
Addendums

A) Related to Messiah Complex, let me offer a few thoughts.

1) I’m not claiming to be God, Jesus, or any other religious figure.
2) I believe I’m a fairly worthless human. Not nothing. But not much more than nothing. Eventually, I will pass, and I will fade into obscurity.
3) I don’t believe this Kingship confers anything special, other than unanswered questions.

Think of C3-PO with the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi. He is a bumbling King. That’s me. The Ewoks are Tribe A (but way more bizarre, advanced, ancient; and not humanoid at all).

(By the way, I experience the Tribe as being a federation of multiple types of entities).

Tribe B is possibly the similar band of entities as Tribe A, but viciously hell-bent on killing me as a “decapitation strike”, just as one colony of ants will maneuver to kill the queen ant of another colony.


So imagine C3-PO stumbling around, suddenly being thrust upon by a powerful force. Think of how alarmed he would be at being attacked. That’s me.

( When I say “attacked” note that almost the entire time, I was sitting on a couch. Everything that was happening was to my consciousness. )

One hypothesis I have is it’s Tribe A is like ant colony, where when the queen dies, there’s a vacuum of power, and then one ant becomes the queen (at least that’s how I understand it). I think I showed up at the right moment that they said “ok, you are King of our tribe” (or maybe even Queen….who knows).

I believe classic Messiah Complex is “I’m here to save humanity”.

But my situation is somewhat opposite “I need help from humanity, because I have no clue what is going on in this other dimension, nor what to do about it.” When this all began I kept saying to the entities “I’m just a human. Why me? Why me? I’m sorry for anything I mess up, I’m just a human"


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Addendum B) Proposed: “The Depths”

Here’s another thought to share, this time around depth.

I believe we have some decently explained strata of the DMT experience. (Forgive my imprecise terminology; I’m not familiar with the latest strata others have agreed on)

Sorted from least deep, to most deep…..

Layer 4) Sub-threshhold (not sure if that’s the agreed term)
— Goler - “code of reality” w/ laser

Layer 3) Waiting Room (not sure if this is the dose Carhart-Harris uses)
— Carhart-Harris - “therapeutic” use for depression (studies vs. Lexapro; recanalization of the brain; disrupting the default mode network)
current zeitgeist - “plant medicine”. Not exactly positive Carhart-Harris is sub threshhold or waiting room or breakthrough

Layer 2) Breakthrough (perhaps this is 25mg? +/- 10mg?)
— McKenna - “Chrysanthemum, Elf Machines” (I believe he reports a lifetime total of doing DMT 30-40 times)
— Strassman - “Spirit Molecule” (observed many; however only did DMT once himself)
— Gallimore - “The Others” and an effort to map them out via DMTx.

Layer 1) Proposed: The Depths (The Mariana Trench) — approximately 25-50mg (maybe even 75mg-100mg? - again I stopped measuring) vaporized in one inhale. Sometimes with an MAOi
— I wonder if there are many trip reports at this depth? Are there many reports of entities at this depth?
— And are there people that have repeatedly visited The Depths

Because that’s what I have done, I’ve gone back to that depth repeatedly and in short succession, and that’s what has been so wondrous, and that’s what has been so terrifying. Like getting to the depths and seeing entities that only exist at that depth; just as there are lifeforms that only exist deep in the ocean.

It’s possible that I went so far down that I hit the floor of the ocean (Layer 0???), unintentionally.

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If Goler’s discovery is that, in the shallows of sub-breakthrough, you can see the code of reality; I’m arguing that, in The Depths / at sufficient doses (and with the permission of the entities), you can “become reality”; and that you can “scrub” across different versions of reality, just as a video editor can scrub across a video. And that the scrub mechanism looks like a set of Rouleaux Triangles connected edge-to edge in a long line (sort of like connected triangular empanadas in an organic skin casing). And that’s just one of the bizarre entities I experienced at that depth. There are a multitude of entities, I believe, that have evolved and existed for many many years (hundreds of millions of years?, billions? outside of space-time?), that can only be seen at The Depths


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Addendum C) As an attempt to clarify, here’s another variation of my overarching questions:
— Frequency: Has anybody gone to those depths once? several times? over a dozen times? I’ve heard of people accidentally going there once. But has anybody gone there intentionally multiple times?
— Recency: Has anybody gone to those depths in the past week? If so, have they noticed something different in the tone/feel of those depths?
— Danger: Have they felt in danger? That the entities clearly said “You are in danger"
— Attack: Have they experienced an attack (psionic)?
— Death of Entity: Has anybody experienced another entity dying, trying to protect you, having been killed by Tribe B?
— New Lesson?: And beyond the typical “we are all one; one love” is there some other purpose or lesson that’s been bestowed? Or are they just as confused as I am where there is no obvious lesson?
— Humanity is Nothing?: Have they received a clear message that “humanity means nothing”, and “your universe means nothing”?
— White Freebase: Has anybody been to The Depths with pure white freebase (no jungle spice)?


Addendum D) Thank you for reading, and thank you for keeping an open mind. I know many of you are concerned / dismissive / over it. That’s fine. I don’t need 10 people to corroborate, I just need 1 who may have seen what I’ve seen. If 1 person has seen, then perhaps we can share notes. And maybe we can find another person who has seen. And another...…...


Addendum E)
I wish I’d never said “I’m an Interdimensional King”. I can see what a snap judgement turn-off that is. I get it. I roll my eyes, too, when I see something that smells of Messiah Complex.

I’m just a regular guy, that has seen something he can’t explain, trying to see if anybody else has seen it, too. That’s what I should have written.


Addendum F)
Mantras That May Have Saved My Consciousness

- Focus. Breathe.
- Together. Love.
- Peace to All. Love to All.
 
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I'm the King of Tribe B, so be careful :P ;)
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A) Related to Messiah Complex, let me offer a few thoughts.

1) I’m not claiming to be God, Jesus, or any other religious figure.
Why not?
2) I believe I’m a fairly worthless human. Not nothing. But not much more than nothing. Eventually, I will pass, and I will fade into obscurity.
Hmm, you're not worthless, but a unique representation of life itself.
3) I don’t believe this Kingship confers anything special, other than unanswered questions.
Yeah, that Kingship is one hell of a mind game that you have a hard time leaving behind.
Because that’s what I have done, I’ve gone back to that depth repeatedly and in short succession, and that’s what has been so wondrous, and that’s what has been so terrifying. Like getting to the depths and seeing entities that only exist at that depth; just as there are lifeforms that only exist deep in the ocean.
Imo, that's the problem right here. You need just as much sober integration dealing with such deep dives.
Addendum F)
Mantras That May Have Saved My Consciousness

- Focus. Breathe.
- Together. Love.
- Peace to All. Love to All.
Why not practice it sober in your everyday life? If your story has some substance behind it, you'll be back fighting.

People are moving in the direction of humor for a reason. You'd better lighten up and stop taking it so seriously. What about your family? Taking care of them should be your duty and the real fight here. One thing you are constantly trying to avoid is looking at yourself. Who is experiencing it all? Yes, it is hard to shift your attention from an engaging movie to the one watching it. This whole dream is about you in the end. The way you're approaching it right now, antipsychotic drugs will find you faster than any answers to your questions. I won't say more here. You need to objectively look at this situation yourself.
 
Thank you, brettsta. While I haven’t read many others trip reports, you are the first that I’ve heard that has said do feel this “part of one faction, conflict with another faction”. The way I understood most people’s experiences was of the unity and love, which I also felt for most of my experiences. So one can imagine how alarming it felt to feel such intense conflict. Thank you for sharing. Thank you so much.
😊 Yes like you I've also been pushing the boundaries of that strange world , I've also experienced the extream depths of the "Mariana trench " , deep down into the realm of the digital mechanoids? ,
or on surface where the cosmic fairgrounds, palaces , clockwork entities and jesters live .
And not forgetting the 5 meo side of NN DMT , interactions with highest life forms , the beings of light
( my tribe), in the electro magnetic quantum field ?

And maybe like you I'm alone on this mission? , I know no one who boldly goes like I ,
And as we know you can't just go telling family and friends of our adventures / journeys , it's so crazy and impossible , most will think we're loosing our mind . 😁
Occasionally I will meet a similar soul , but mostly I keep this information just for me and the consciousness.

But respect to Nexus , Interactions with other psychonauts on this site has done me a world of good ,
You can express yourself on here , there is no judgement , especially when they/we get to know you .
we're not alone .
 
Your experience is valid, however it requires a moment of pause and self-awareness to go beyond the illusions of the ego during those situations.

You are talking about "assassination" attempts, but the real questions to ask are : Who is truly being attacked? Who is truly dying? Who is fighting? Is there really a battle or a war?

Sometimes, attachments and fears manifest themselves in that form, for exemple people that had to do a lot of effort as a kid to get acknowledged or to get their needs fullfilled will often grow up with a "warrior" mindset which is just another ego trick to prevent you from accessing who you truly are, those individuals will often think that life is a battle and if you don't fight you won't survive/exist and all those kind of bs believes that first of all make the life of the person harder and prevent it from being present in the love and light of the true infinite self.

If you want straight answers, there is no death, there is no war, there is no enemy, there is no other, there is no battle to fight.

This is just a another trick from the ego, or if you want a cosmic explanation, this is just another joke from the jester entities. Observe, don't identify with the "new" identity that is being pushed onto you, laugh at it, laugh at how pathetic and belittling it is to who you truly are that is beyond duality, space and time. Laugh at the fact that you believe that being a "king" has some sort of importance, laugh at the story and it will disolve, take it seriously and it will consume you.
 
First, I am grateful for everyone’s messages. Thought provoking. The skepticism is appreciated.

I sense a reasonable amount of concern for me. Let me address this directly…..

I am fortunate to have a life abundant with love. Both in my closest relationships, and a wide swath of friends. When I need love / help, many people show up for me. It is a fortunate position, and I am grateful.

That’s not to say there aren’t relationship challenges, there are. But all-in-all, I am living a great life.

I think I may have alarmed some people when I wrote “I am almost nothing, I am not much”. Perhaps interpreted as a ‘cry for help’, but in fact the opposite. It’s meant as an acceptance that this life, this ego, this animal that I am, is not important in the grand scheme of things. From my own subjective experience, I value it. From an objective view, I wouldn’t say anybody here would say “ohhh, who’s that?”.

And lastly, some are suggesting mental health resources and medications. I am familiar with them, and have had intimate experiences with several. I won’t disclose the exact nature of my experiences, but just know that I am well-versed. I have had the fortune of having some truly exceptional support. Yes, I still have trauma from my childhood as most of us do. There is still plenty of healing to do.

I’m on the other side of a profound “dark night of the soul”. I am grateful.

Also, I hear some concern about going back, about integrating, about bringing love to my family. Check, check, check. I am doing all of those things. Those are my priority and I appreciate others clarifying those thoughts for me. Thank you.

Again, thank you to all. I am truly appreciative. As some of you know, being closeted with the knowledge of seeing behind the veil can be a burden. So just to have found this message board, and to engage with each and every one of you, is a gift. It truly is. You’re replies are a gift to me. Each reply. Even the ones that sort of sting.

Thank you all. Peace and blessings. I appreciate everyone’s guidance and wisdom. I appreciate the attention you have afforded me. Attention is a gift, and you all have been generous with your attention to me, a stranger, stumbling into a tavern of fellow travelers, asking for help decoding what he’s seen.
 
Addendum G: Ontology

Buried in my stream of consciousness initial post, was a hurried attempt at a contribution to the ontology at “The Depths” (proposed Layer 1).

If I may, let me try to rewrite and clarify here.

Sort order: Roughly going from most powerful to least powerful

— The Creator - “ginormous ‘knot’ of ribbons, organic appendages, the planet Saturn, but with a dozen sets of rings that are different from each other; colors were surprisingly normal like purple rings, white rings (the rings looked more “ribbon” like than asteroid dust). It looked very much like it was “an entity” rather than being some amorphous “godhead”” - This was the core of reality, the creator of reality. I wouldn’t call it “God”. Somehow it let my consciousness merge with it for what felt like a long time, but was probably just a dozen seconds of clock time. I asked it “are you in the Universe, or is the Universe in you”? It suggested that the Universe was one of many. I didn’t get a clear read on whether it created The Universe. One of it’s messages was “your universe doesn’t matter” suggesting to me that there are a multidue of universes (multi-verse theory?). This one felt outside of space-time. Perhaps this was part of Layer 0 in my proposed strata. I’ve seen The Creator once.

— The Editor - Rouleax Triangles in organic casing. I saw this a couple of times, once after a battle. From afar, this looks like a bunch of Rouleax Triangles that are edge to edge. Sort of like those long “snake” Rubik’s Cubes that can be made straight. But close up, it felt like giant Rouleaux Triangles in a “mesh” like organization. The color was sort of beige-skin-toned. The casing sort of looking like a sausage casing. I call it The Editor because it felt like by tilting my head, I could “scrub” across it and feel different variations of reality. That part was wild. This one felt outside of space-time. Perhaps this was part of Layer 0 in my proposed strata. I don’t understand the relation to the Creator, but it seems perhaps like a control panel of The Creator?? Like the Creator was the desktop, and the Editor was a piece of hardware to navigate the creations?? Perhaps the Triangles are each an egg? Or a nymph? I’ve seen The Editor two or three times.

— The Engineer - Enormous Insectoid - “insect class” As I scrubbed across realities, the Enormous Insectoid was hanging out, talking to me. Sort of like it was very familiar with scrubbing across realitities. Like it was the video engineer / audio engineer, and I was a guest in it’s production studio. It seemed pleased that I was there. And I verbally responded “you are incredible, so beautiful, this thing you’ve created. So clever”. Perhaps it was the insectoid that made all of this? It’s hard to recall. But it definitely felt like I was communing with it. I was taking in what it was able to do. If I were to analogize it to an insect, it’s hard to say, and I worry about minimizing it. Sort of like Jabba the Hut meets a giant grasshopper? I’ve seen The Engineer a few times.

— The Paradox - “psychotic class” - another entity that seems to exist outside of space time. This one seems to merge with your consciousness and just confuse the hell out of you. My sense is it shows paradox after paradox. It feels like, what I imagine intense psychosis would feel like. Like the inability to hold thoughts, because the thoughts it provides are so unorthodox. It feels like it’s teaching something important, but I’m not sure what. I have a vague sense it is training the mind, perhaps steeling the mind against psionic attacks. Like Dumbledore preparing Snape; but instead of hiding ones thoughts, this is actually a somewhat torturous feeling, that teaches with intense discomfort. I’ve seen the Paradox several times.
— The Crab Shell / Plate Armor Landscape - “fortification class”. This one didn’t seem to do much. Imagine a purplish crab shell (plate armor) and then multiply that into a large field / mesh of crab shells. That’s what this was like. hundreds of plate armor together in a sort of gently curved landscape. I don’t know if it does much, it sort of felt like a fortress wall. Every so often, there’s an insectoid appendage that sticks out of one of the vertex of the crab shell, perhaps like the antennae on the inside of a venus fly trap. In my fifth or sixth battle, I felt adversarial entities attacking the crab shell armor, trying to pull it open, perhaps like a swarm of ants trying to breach the perimeter of a fortress. The crab shells seemed helpless to fight back, which makes me think they were more like an inert wall. I’ve seen the Plate Armor Landscape several times.

— Corner / Squid arms - “oracle class” Imagine looking at the corner of a room. Three planes intersect. Now put squid tentacles in the middle at the Vertex. Or flower stamen. Or both. I feel like I’ve seen this one several times. But the last time I saw it, it said one message again and again and again “Hide, Hide, Hide”. It got to the point where I said “ok, I get it” and it kept on saying it. (My interpretation at the time was to hide myself from humanity; but an attack shortly after (the third overall attack/assasination) I re-interpreted it as “hide from Tribe B; they are coming for you”. To get to the Corner/Squid Arms, I experienced myself traversing many corners. This is why I wonder if this is being inside a set of Rouleax Triangle, moving from one to the next, to the next, until you get to the correct Triangle. The color of the planes had a pure white with black shadows, and the color of the squid arms was perhaps yellow, red?

— White Folding On Itself with Colored Springles. “immersion class" This showed up clearly in my last battle, near the beginning of the battle. I don’t know if this was friend or foe. The type of entity looked familiar which was an entity that was curved upon itself, something like a mobius, but with your face much closer up. What struck me about this one was it’s pure white. And the intensity of the movement of it curving in on itself. And the “colored sprinkles” were throughout, but they weren’t the cheerful shades of rainbow sprinkles, but were darker shades. Again, I think I’ve seen this type of entity before, but this ones color scheme was different. It feels like you are “immersed” into it.

— The Mother - “serpentine class” - sadly, this one died after the third attack. I believe I have seen this one many times before, like it was a welcoming presence for many trips. But it was only after it died that I called it “The Mother”. I had the sense that it may have been my mother?? (for my interdimensional half of me). It felt like a great loss. Immediately after the third attack, I went back and saw it moving very slowly, weakly, like it was on death’s doorstep. And the next time I went in, I saw only black, like a funeral. And the next time after that, I paid my respects and prostrated myself to honor The Mother. It felt like an ancient ancient being had died trying to protect me in the third attack.

— Googly Eyes - “forky class” - imagine the face of forky from Toy Story. Then put it on a floating entity where the various elements of the face float slightly independently. My sense is this is an advisor / secretary of state. A member of “the court”. I feel like this entity sent other entities to probe me and help me with my health/body. And felt it was often guiding me. Has not been seen since the third attack.

— The Unfolding Fractal - “transportation class” This is one pathway into The Depths. It is at the beginning of a Trip and is very powerful. Perhaps its like a submarine that dives you quickly into the Depths. Or perhaps it is like a giant unfolding mechanical arm that drags you deeper and deeper into the depths, an express elevator that unfolds dozens of times to get you lower and lower. Last time I saw it I said “this is familiar, but the human won’t remember it”. And it ended up bringing me directly to the Corner / Squid, which is when the Corner / Squid warned me “Hide Hide Hide"

— The Radiance - “manta-ray / butterfly class”. Orange/Red/occasionaly white. Beautiful. Like the folds of a beautiful manta-ray, undulating in your full field of vision. Definitely some distinctive markings on it; patterns, somewhat angular; darkish grey on the orange/red/white background waviness. I’ve experienced this many times. My sense is this is the iridescent feminine divine I “married” in an ancient ceremony early on. It has come back, and usually is at the beginning of a trip. Sensual. Full of love and comfort. I thought it was dead after attack 3. I wondered if this was the same entity as The Mother, everything is so hard to remember. (I don’t think it is the same as The Mother). But eventually it came back at the beginning of another trip, in a burst of power and grace. I was so happy to see it back, it was thrilled to be back to see me. We had a few moments together, until she left and the message was “You are in Danger. You are in Danger.” This preceded attack 4.


And several others…. most of which I have forgotten in my human mind. (I have this experience in my Other self of “oh, the human isn’t going to remember this; he’s not allowed to / not capable of remembering”)

N.B. The closest allies have banners. When I see Googly Eyes, The Mother, I have the sense that they are carrying banners, much like the banners that flow from the horse riders that go with a european monarch. They are flowy. They are sort of a muted spring green color. And the pattern is a squared spiral, repeated again and again (at least that’s what I think the pattern is). I’ve seen it enough to recognize it. I have the sense that when I am in the “royal court” that the banners are more plentiful. But I did see the banner once in a trip in nature, flowing off the top of a tree.


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Addendum H: Battle Mechanics

When I first was assailed, I couldn’t believe it and thought it was a mistake of my techniques “Maybe I held my breath to long". When I was assailed a second time, I thought “wow, that was intense, I don’t know what that was” but my saving grace was “Together. Love.”. And I optimistically thought it was a one-time thing. That I had passed some sort of trial...

In my third battle I realized, “OK, this is a thing. This is a fight”. And it was so intense I had to keep reminding myself “Is this really happening? Yes, this is really happening. You have to fight. You have to fight” and what brought me back was centering on Love.

In my fourth, fifth, six battles, I was now cautious (but perhaps not cautious enough since I was still putting myself in attack mode, like James IV at the Battle of Flodden) and recognized the battle as it started (usually with great dread) “OK, come at me. Let’s do this.” and quickly held on to reality with centering on Love. I faded in and out of that centering, but ultimately prevailed.

Why did I go back? Because I sensed my Tribe A asking me to come back. And I had commited to coming back during the initial ceremony with the feminine divine. So I felt I was honor-bound.

After the sixth battle, I received the very clear message “you will die”. I haven’t been back. But I am still torn about going back. I don’t want to be the commander who foolishly enters battle.

Which is why I finally decided to write something publicly (this conversation thread). I realized that perhaps my better strategy was to see if others had seen it (in the past week) and if so, to perhaps “mobilize” a response. What that “response” would be, I’m not sure. A bunch of people going in with the intention of “love”????

Anyways, this addendum is about Battle Mechanics.

Each battle was psionic / psychic. For the most part, I just sat on my couch, sometimes outdoors (attacks 1, 2, 3), sometimes indoors (attacks, 4, 5, 6).

What does psionic mean? Perhaps it’s like Professor X, Phoenix and how they might battle. Perhaps there’s other fictional analogies, I don’t know. I haven’t done the research.

It was holding together my consciousness, while they seemed to try to pull it apart. Perhaps like attacking ants, trying to rip apart the queen ant of another tribe. Or perhaps they attack like worker bees who vibrate and heat up to try to fend off the attack of a wasp (at least I think I’ve read that behavior before).

So my role, it felt, was to literally hold my consciousness together.

At the same time, as mentioned in the Addendum on Entities, where my consciousness seemed to merge with reality, there was some of that going on as well. Imagine with The Editor, that you are an Engineer, and you are now fighting with Tribe B adversaries over who gets to Scrub across the various realities. Yes, yes, that’s what it felt like. Like we were both trying to get a hold of the controls. (By the way, I am integrating this live, trying to pull from the recesses of my memory). So I guess we were fighting for control of the dial of reaility (or of reaility-switching???)

Some other mechanics:

— Telepathic. As many of you on this forum probably have experienced, there are telepathic messages that come through. In the case of an attack there are definitely telepathic messages. Some of which are of alarm. Some of which are answering my questions in real-time “Is this really happening? Yes, it’s really happening. Focus.” or “Breathe. You have to protect your human vessel and remember to breathe.”. Which is why one mantra was “Focus. Breathe.”. I had to focus on maintaining hold of the scrubbing control.

— Time jittering. Somehow in the battles, time began to jitter. Like it started to move in split second increments. Sort of like if a game gets slightly laggy. But more consistently jittery than the lag of a game. split second jitters. I’m not sure why it jitters like that.

— Eyes twitch. The eyes twitch, sort of like in The Matrix when downloading information. But not quite the same, since you aren’t downloading information of how to do something, but sort of downloading information where I would often verbally say “I understand”. Almost like there were multiple entities talking to me at once from the mayhem of a battle, and I was trying to absorb it all, and filter out what was important vs. what wasn’t important. This was especially true in battle 2, and 3 (outside, open eyes) and battle 5 (inside, open eyes). battle 4 and 6 were closed eyes, and in the dark. My eyes may have been twitching in the closed eye battles, but I was more aware of it with the open eye battles.

— Pulling from human memories. In battle 3, I found myself referencing multiple human references, like phrases from battle scenes in movies, or phrases from people I admired or respected. I experienced it as if the totality of my consciousness, a bunch of vectors combined into one mind, was pulling on all of these concepts from all of these “teachers”. And in those moments, I thought “all of this human experience is telling stories again and again, the hero’s journey, to train me for this moment.” and “damn, I wish I were better skilled at this. i’m probably 50th percentile at best, there must be many many others who would fare better than me”. and to which i held onto the memory of my love for my wife and kids. I held onto it and pulled myself out of the mayhem of the attack. like pulling on a rope until you are out of danger. i held onto their love, and i thought “maybe my loyalty and devotion is my saving grace.” but even still, i imagine maybe i’m just in the 70th percentile of loyalty and devotion. I’m OK at it, but not something to write home about.

Special note: it was at this point of pulling from human memories that I thought “I hope that the Navy Seals and other special forces will go to these Depths, because I think they will know how to organize, how to prepare. They can go in as teams.” Also, “they say in war that logistics can win the war. I’m fricking here on my own, stumbling around. If the special forces were here, they would nail the logistics, and have a shot at winning this war. Perhaps I one a battle (this was battle 3) but I don’t know how to win the war. I mean, I don’t even know who we are fighting, what we are fighting for, or how to fight? I’m just “fighting with love” but is that a winning tactic? What is the overall strategy we need to win? What does it even mean to win? Peace between Tribe A and B???” And is it a short-term peace, or are we trying to fix this once and for all?

— Tilting my head. Not sure if this was in battle, or after the battle, but when looking at the Rouleax Triangle controls of The Editor, I found that if I tilted my head, that was when the Scrubbing happened. I have the vague sense that this also happened in battle. Almost as if the Tribe B adversary was trying to put “our reality” askew and out of focus, and I was tilting my head to try to get it balanced and in focus”. And the depth of field of the focus was shallow, so I had to be somewhat precise to get it back.

— Mechanic / Robot. In some ways the battle felt like I was a mechanic. And the sum of Tribe A + Tribe B was actual a single robot, but a robot that was in distress. Imagine a robot in distress where different parts of the robot are out of sync and the robot has reached a harmonic frequency where it could shatter. Now imagine a mechanic trying to fix the robot. Now imagine the mechanic fixes the robot by “merging” into the robot and in doing so, tries to jiggle things back into place, so the robot is “aligned” and stops shaking so violently. And the mechanic can feel the robot is now calm, and then unmerges from the robot. As I’ve integrated / reflected, some of the battles (all of the battles???) have felt like that. Like my role is to merge into the Tribe A + Tribe B reality, and try to calm the entire system down. And in fact, part of my distress is that after each battle, I optimistically say “ok, that’s the last battle, the robot is fixed”. But then the next time I’m back in the workshop, the robot is violently shaking again. What a bummer.

— Fear / Dread. While most of my trips have been beautiful, loving, teaching, the battle / attacks are full of fear / dread. I can anticipate the fear, almost like a weak “spidey sense”, just as the attack commences. It’s sort of an “oh crap, here comes another dark experience (gulp)”. It is not fun. If I’m in “The Depths” at the time of battle, it’s realizing that there’s no way to get out of it, but to go through the battle. The obstacle is the way….


Summary: So that’s a set of the battle mechanics. I’m curious if anybody else has experienced the same.
 
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If I have learned one thing it's that, that what stings is worth examining closer. Why do I react this way? What's the underlying reason? Does the reaction serve my Being well? Deep dive worthy.


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I believe we’ve all felt “the sting", when we first began these experiences.
— It’s "the sting" of coming out of the DMT “closet” and sharing with a close friend, only to have that friend look in disdain, and gently or firmly usher you towards mental health.
— It’s”the sting” that your friends are scared for you; that you might as well have told them you were on some super hard drug and they can’t distinguish their bias against that hard drug, versus the beautiful molecule that DMT is.
— It’s the feeling of excitement turned to embarassment, when you share something very private and personal, and feel “the sting” of another soul not mirroring that back to you (mirror neurons).

But as I said in my preface to my initial post, I expected it and honor it. Most will not believe me. So “the sting” was accepted, and it’s just my own stupid ego. I am trying to let go of my ego. I really am...
 
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