Oral active salvinorin a

[Magic stone]

Through different reaserch and experiments I did recognice that salvia gets active orally by adding a thujone plant with the leaves !

Wormwood and other plants with simmilar thujone content work perfectly great for that trick !

Greatings magic cristal !

 

[Ra-Horakhty]

Interesting, can they both be brewed in a tea then consumed?

 

[blig-blug]

@stuartroelke has recently found a way to orally activate Salvia as well, with lecithin. He may be interested in this.

 

[Magic stone]

I made a tincture out of both plants together...

 

[JosBoaz]

@Magic stone, are we talking about Salvia divinorum?

I used to mix it with harmala brews, but it didn’t produce any noticeable effects. Later, I found out that the proper method was apparently to make a brew and hold the liquid in my mouth. I tried that as well, but still didn’t experience much, apart from some swaying motion.

I also read somewhere that wormwood can be toxic when burned as incense. I wonder whether it is safe to ingest, since I vaguely remember people reporting headaches after drinking wormwood tea.

Could you elaborate a bit on the effects you personally experienced from the tinctures you mentioned? Also, could you give a short explanation of how you made the tincture and approximately how much you took per dose?

 

[RhythmSpring]

Dude. This is crazy crazy timing. I was just about to post another thread about orally active Salvia using wormwood (and some other plants). Coming right up...

EDIT: Linked here: Existential Peace Tea / Tea of Green

 

[JosBoaz]

"@stuartroelke has recently found a way to orally activate Salvia as well, with lecithin. He may be interested in this."

Took 1g lecithin (capsule), waited ~25 minutes, took another 1g lecithin, waited ~20-25 minutes (perhaps the longest I’ve waited), then drank 2g salvia powder. I wound up tripping HARD.

Source:
Haphazard Oral Administration Thread (Salvine Tek)

 

[RhythmSpring]

Honestly, though, I think there are probably many things that "orally activate" Salvia. I've drunked it [sic] simply with Peppermint tea and felt strong, long-lasting effects. But yeah, see my other thread ^

: )

 

[dithyramb]

This spring I discovered a new strain/chemotype of artemisia taurica that is exceptionally bitter and strong in effects (the species is known to potentially have higher concentrations of thujone than absinthium). İt was giving a legitimately "psychedelic" euphoria and connection so I got a bit infatuated by it, and a few times combined it with salvinorin a containing salvia absconditiflora and rue. I noticed a powerful synergy and some serious "sacred" effects. Unfortunately after a while I noticed I was also getting some toxicity effects from the Artemisia - some form of short term neurological impairment and overstimulation - so I couldn't/didn't pursue the plant and the combination further.

 

[RitualOpossum]

I'm pretty sure thujone also helps other medicines work efficiently. Maybe it increases bioavailability? Would be great for CBD in that case

 

[stuartroelke]

Thanks for the mention @JosBoaz

Stopping by because this is extremely interesting. @dithyramb recently mentioned Artemisia synergy in my Salvine Tek thread, so I'm glad to see a second anecdotal report. I've yet to find any decent oral potentiators aside from lecithin (specifically the phosphatidylcholine fraction). I'll give this a shot with my Artemisia absinthium extract.

I have done cleanses with wormwood—usually taking it every morning for a month—and haven't noticed any impact on Salvine Tek tests. Perhaps they need to be taken simultaneously.

@Magic stone, can you go into more detail about quantities and varieties of Artemisia used? I'd also be curious to know how strong the effect is for you.

 

[stuartroelke]

@Magic stone I did not figure out how to trigger oral salvia with wormwood tincture, so please update us when you have a minute.

It occurred to me that I have tried using ~2g of Salvia officinalis leaf powder to potentiate Salvine Tek—sage actually contains a decent amount of thujone. Though, that did little more than give me a stomach ache. My goal was actually to see if myrcene could intensify salvinorin A, but I consider it "inconclusive" since I don't know how much was actually absorbed in my gut. Mango or hops would likely be better sources.