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Smoking nb-DMT-OXALATE

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Hi everyone, i am super noob.
I got 0,5g of NB-DMT-OXALATE(N,N-Dimethyl-tert-butyl-3-(2-aminoethyl) 1H-indole-1-carboxylate
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i tried to smoke it with a hand vaporizer (30mg) at 210/240 C° but i felt absolutely nothing except a strong cough after the second puff.
Many told me that it's a bit of a waste vipe it without freebasing.
Any idea?
 
N,N-DMT salts can't be smoked, it needs to be in freebase form. However, what you are talking about is NBoc-DMT, which is a different substance. I know nothing about it, but here's a German website (use an autotranslator) that has some information about it (note that I have no clue if the information is correct or not): NB-DMT (Legales DMT)
This Reddit thread has some more info, but the same caveats apply: https://archive.is/0wf3K

It's important that you are aware that you're dealing with a research chemical with little to no history of human use. That means it could potentially be harmful. Be careful.
 
I have been reading a lot about nboc dmt for many days now, everywhere, everything I could find.

The result was:
1. it is supposed to work and work well, but is only 60% as potent as nn dmt.

2. it is simply vaporized in the yocan orbit vaporizer (which has a pre heat function for 10 seconds and 3 heating levels) or there are many reports that nboc also works well with a glass oil pipe if the technique is correct.

3. there is now also nboc dmt hcl, which has consistently poor ratings and is said not to work although it is available as hcl.
 
There has been some talk about this compound, it’s suspected by some to produce unhealthy byproducts when directly vaporized. A quick search should lead to the tread.

My advice would be to make dmt from scratch or strip the N boc of and then vape it, imo it’s not worth it to risk your health.
 
Varallo said:
There has been some talk about this compound, it’s suspected by some to produce unhealthy byproducts when directly vaporized. A quick search should lead to the tread.

My advice would be to make dmt from scratch or strip the N boc of and then vape it, imo it’s not worth it to risk your health.
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I also have the NB-DMT and would like to turn it into normal N,N-DMT. Is there a guide for that somewhere?
 
Without going into detail, I think you should be able to use acid or heat to remove the boc group. Maybe a microwave would be helpful. Other than that synthesis talk is on the boundary of what we can talk about here, so are research chemicals.
 
Varallo said:
Without going into detail, I think you should be able to use acid or heat to remove the boc group. Maybe a microwave would be helpful. Other than that synthesis talk is on the boundary of what we can talk about here, so are research chemicals.
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Thank you.
I just read the guidelines, it says talking about research chemicals is allowed for members of the forum - am I missing something?
 

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octaeder said:
I have been reading a lot about nboc dmt for many days now, everywhere, everything I could find.

The result was:
1. it is supposed to work and work well, but is only 60% as potent as nn dmt.

2. it is simply vaporized in the yocan orbit vaporizer (which has a pre heat function for 10 seconds and 3 heating levels) or there are many reports that nboc also works well with a glass oil pipe if the technique is correct.

3. there is now also nboc dmt hcl, which has consistently poor ratings and is said not to work although it is available as hcl.
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Can you provide sources?

My thoughts: If you're trying to have an experience with N,N-DMT, then procure some, preferably by extracting it. If you're not astute in your chemistry knowledge, then you're playing with fire by playing with marginally researched molecules. There are a lot of factors to consider like what byproducts are produced, not only when heat is added, but also once it is metabolized in the body. Negative effects may not be obvious immediately, and can creep up over time, and once noticed it may be too late.

That said, while I'm confident I know what may convert what you have, I'm not positive, and I think you should just extract it.

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Felix_Germany said:
Thank you.
I just read the guidelines, it says talking about research chemicals is allowed for members of the forum - am I missing something?
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I understand there’s some ambiguity around this situation. When the rules regarding RCs were originally created, the forum operated differently, new members had to be voted in to gain full membership. Later, the forum moved to a new format where anyone could join and become a member without a vote, which understandably creates some confusion.

That said, the original guidelines still apply. In general, we tend to err on the side of caution when discussing these substances.
In any case, with the tips I’ve shared, you should be able to find the information you’re looking for.

Take care.
 
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Voidmatrix said:
Can you provide sources?

My thoughts: If you're trying to have an experience with N,N-DMT, then procure some, preferably by extracting it. If you're not astute in your chemistry knowledge, then you're playing with fire by playing with marginally researched molecules. There are a lot of factors to consider like what byproducts are produced, not only when heat is added, but also once it is metabolized in the body. Negative effects may not be obvious immediately, and can creep up over time, and once noticed it may be too late.

That said, while I'm confident I know what may convert what you have, I'm not positive, and I think you should just extract it.

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Thanks - I would love to extract it. The problem is for me here in Germany, they are actively prosecuting people who order the Mimosa hostilis online, even in small amounts. As far as I know there is no way to get the necessary plant material legally here. But maybe I‘m wrong - I am grateful for any tips.
 
Hi guys, i followed This guide

to freebase NB-DMT oxalate. I followed the dosage proportions in according to the guide:
40mg DMT
0,83ml/0,652g alchol isopropanol
0,012gr baking soda

After 1,46 min into the microwave to 352W it come up a slimy stuff.
I let the alcohol evaporate and it ended up as i humid and sticky crystals, put it in my vape pen (into the chamber that can holds crystals and liquid) and set to 220° Celsius.

I felt NOTHING.

What could have gone wrong?
 
I used a little amount compared to the guide and proportionally less time into the microwave.
After the microwave phase i let the alcohol evaporate and put the crystal in a weed vaporiser into the chamber for liquid and crystals. I felt nothing.
 
shake said:
proportionally less time into the microwave
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You have assumed that that's the right thing to do, but I don't know if that's the case, and the guide doesn't say that. It needn't be.

I don't think you'll find many answers about this topic here, as few people will be interested in some involved process to get n,n-DMT from NB-DMT when you can just extract it. I recommend you go the extraction route, it's easy and well understood.
 
I am not able to extract it, the only compound i can work on is this. Is there's any patient braniac to help me i would really appreciate it.
 
N-Boc is used as a protecting group in organic synthesis. You could look into "deprotection", where there will be established methods for deprotecting compounds of this type. E.g. "removal of N-boc protecting group" as a search string may start turning up some useful results, like this one, which suggests using dry HCl in ethyl acetate:
That's for a highly selective deprotection in the presence of a very similar functional group, so the material you're working with should be somewhat less demanding…

Another possibility one ought to consider is that you've simply landed yourself some bunk rubbish. Hopefully not, but it's far from impossible.
 
Transform said:
N-Boc is used as a protecting group in organic synthesis. You could look into "deprotection", where there will be established methods for deprotecting compounds of this type. E.g. "removal of N-boc protecting group" as a search string may start turning up some useful results, like this one, which suggests using dry HCl in ethyl acetate:
That's for a highly selective deprotection in the presence of a very similar functional group, so the material you're working with should be somewhat less demanding…

Another possibility one ought to consider is that you've simply landed yourself some bunk rubbish. Hopefully not, but it's far from impoI am a completely noob about it, what is the easiest guide with most available materials t
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The vendor is 100% trustworthy. In your opinion, which guide is both the easiest to follow and uses the most readily available materials?

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Felix_Germany said:
Thanks - I would love to extract it. The problem is for me here in Germany, they are actively prosecuting people who order the Mimosa hostilis online, even in small amounts. As far as I know there is no way to get the necessary plant material legally here. But maybe I‘m wrong - I am grateful for any tips.
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You can try with acacia confusa.
 
By the way i tried to smoke it straight without freebasing with 30mg and i felt nothing but some people said it would have worked anyway.
 
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