Smoking plastic - Minty Love's DpTek1

[Bob Sacamano]

Hi,

I'm trying extraction using Minty Love's DpTek1. These are the steps I'm taking:

1. Shred 100g of MHRB using a kitchen blender at medium speed.
2. Add 200ml of cleaning vinegar (7%, pH 2.3)
3. Freeze/thaw 3 times
4. Make a solution of 1L water, 110g NaOH and 190g NaCl. Wait for it to cool down to room temperature.
5. Add the MHRB and vinegar to the solution.
6. Add extra water of various temperatures to make a total of 1.75L at 20 °C.
7. Do 3 pulls with naphtha (140ml, 90ml, 90ml). (add, shake, get top layer with turkey baster)
8. Freeze, pour off the naphta, dry with a fan, and scrape
9. Dissolve in propylene glycol (PG) in a 1g / 3ml ratio. I tape the vial to a vibrator in an attempt to speed things up.
10. Put in my vaporizer, a Lost Vape Thelema Solo with a Hellvape Dead Rabbit V3 RTA. The coil consists of 316L stainless steel clapton (0.40 mm / 26 awg * 2 + 0.12 mm / 36 awg) wire, 6 turns around a diameter of 3.5 mm, giving 0.30 Ω resistance.
11. Wait 30 minutes for the cotton to be soaked and smoke it at 2.5 V (approx. 20 W). I use voltage mode so power is automatically a bit reduced when the coil gets hot.

I've tried it multiple times. Something goes wrong. I just tried it and it is as if I'm smoking plastic. I don't know what I'm actually smoking.

Observations:

• I've had a few good trips with this method. But often I only get minor effects from the DMT before stuff gets poisonous.
• When I exhale I see a lot of gray/white smoke.
• The DMT does not smell good. I can only describe it as "chemical".
• The DMT crystals (or what they're supposed to be) are clear white. No or almost no goo.

What I've tried:

• Other bark
• Other NaOH
• Dry longer
• Smoke only PG without DMT. No bad taste.
• After getting the "DMT", redissolve it in naphta, then move it to vinegar, add NaOH to make it basic again, and then again naphtha pulls. Makes the bad smell less, but doesn't solve it.

Any idea of what may go wrong? I'm wondering if the blender causes the bark to heat up and thereby ruin it.

 

[Sakkadelic]

Hey Bob,

It's most likely a problem with vaping method/technique. Plastic taste and nasty smell are signs of burnt dmt.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Here a video where I put 2.5 V on it for a few seconds. Is this how it's supposed to look? I already don't like the smell of the powder, so I think it already goes wrong before vaping.

 

[fractals4life]

I have no experience of that sort of vape so can't really say if it should look like that. My advice is to try turning the voltage down: if the coil is boiling away juice faster than it can be replenished by wicking then the temperature can rise above the boiling point locally and you could get burning of the DMT.

The worst that can happen with too low a voltage is that you don't get a high enough dose for the effect you want. So start low and work up and see if that helps.

Also you could try adding citric acid to the juice to make DMT citrate, I've heard it's much smoother, read around this post : Research - DMT salts for e-juice

 

[Ernestine]

Here a video where I put 2.5 V on it for a few seconds. Is this how it's supposed to look? I already don't like the smell of the powder, so I think it already goes wrong before vaping.

Can't you set it to power mode and use wattage rather than voltage?

Have you tried running the juice through a syringe filter?

 

[vaderizer]

Is that RTA the only device you have? Do you have a way to vape just the spice with no PG added? I have a feeling your spice is fine. It'd probably be good to confirm that first if possible.

Have you extracted or vaped deems previously, or is this your first time? Do you have a baseline idea of what clean spice is "supposed" to smell like? How do you know that "chemical" smell you're smelling is not correct? Many people compare the smell to rubber tires or new sneakers.

I love the smell. My wife think it smells disgusting.

The odor of your extracted spice is a difficult thing to judge quality by, unless you know what it generally smells like.