Sublingual Harmalas

[RhythmOfLife]

Hey fellow travelers! First post here so bear with me..

I’ve been having difficulty breaking through with my cart. By the time I take that 2nd hit I’ve already lost my sense of self and cannot take that 3rd or 4th hit no matter what I’ve tried

I have some harmine freebase and was wondering if a sublingual dose 30 mins before would help me take those additional hits. Has anyone had success with this or can recommend dosage/timing?

And yes I have changa and a bong, but I find it wayyy too difficult to repack the bong after every hit. The cart is just less stress and prevents anxiety

Also open to other suggestions! Perhaps an oral route or smoke the freebase with some herb?

 

[Varallo]

Hi there and welcome

It can be a bit tricky, in my experience, sublingual harmala’s are not going to help with slowing the come up all that much. I mean they stretch the experience, but I don’t think they really give you more time to get your dose in.

What does help is changing the concentration of your juice.

 

[KTX]

Hello RhythmOfLife. As an aspiring traveler, I purchased a vape box mod and Someone Who Is Me is planning to add 1 gram of spice (if I can get that much from 100g of mimosa root bark) to 4 mls of 70-30 VG/PG vape juice and dissolving in a tiny beaker in a hot water bath, and vaping said juice in a steel coil at 520F.

If someone who is you desires the breakthrough experience, I might suggest investing in a vape mod capable of temp-control with a steel coil. Others have said that it is quite possible, and even easy, to get a sufficient breakthrough dose of spice in a single large hit with such an ROI.
It's a significant investment, but one I think you will not regret.
Unfortunately, I have heard the same complaint you have from many others: that a DMT cart is simply too shrimpy to get enough DMT into you fast enough to break through. I don't think harmine would help you take additional hits, but I believe it may boost the effectiveness of the hits you are able to take enough for you to get closer to a breakthrough. It may be enough.

Happy travels friend. Mush love.
KTX out.

 

[Panpsychic]

I’ve been having difficulty breaking through with my cart. By the time I take that 2nd hit I’ve already lost my sense of self and cannot take that 3rd or 4th hit no matter what I’ve tried

I have some harmine freebase and was wondering if a sublingual dose 30 mins before would help me take those additional hits. Has anyone had success with this or can recommend dosage/timing?

Drink some mixed with juice or soft drink an hour before will be likely more effective than sublingual.

And yes I have changa and a bong, but I find it wayyy too difficult to repack the bong after every hit.

You don't need to repack the bong. You can 'overload' the bowl with all that you need for multiple hits first then when you light up and inhale you will naturally reach your limit with how much smoke you can take in with a single toke. If you need to go again then you can simply light up again and it will already be packed for another hit or two.

 

[Jamie01]

Usually if I have lost my sense of self it’s because I’ve had a “breakthrough”. I just don’t fully understand. So you are reaching ego death but want another toke? I’m just a bit confused.

 

[RhythmOfLife]

Usually if I have lost my sense of self it’s because I’ve had a “breakthrough”. I just don’t fully understand. So you are reaching ego death but want another toke? I’m just a bit confused.

Sorry, I may have worded that poorly. I meant 'lost my sense of self' as in I forget that I'm holding a vape, eyes are closing, falling back and whatnot. The experience with the cart is extremely profound, but I know its not a full breakthrough because I've been there before.

I was thinking if I could just keep myself lucid long enough to take another hit or two I might get where I want to go. I was thinking the harmalas might slow the onset, but as others have pointed out, investing in a temp controlled vape or erig for spice might be the way to go!

 

[RhythmOfLife]

Hello RhythmOfLife. As an aspiring traveler, I purchased a vape box mod and Someone Who Is Me is planning to add 1 gram of spice (if I can get that much from 100g of mimosa root bark) to 4 mls of 70-30 VG/PG vape juice and dissolving in a tiny beaker in a hot water bath, and vaping said juice in a steel coil at 520F.

If someone who is you desires the breakthrough experience, I might suggest investing in a vape mod capable of temp-control with a steel coil. Others have said that it is quite possible, and even easy, to get a sufficient breakthrough dose of spice in a single large hit with such an ROI.
It's a significant investment, but one I think you will not regret.
Unfortunately, I have heard the same complaint you have from many others: that a DMT cart is simply too shrimpy to get enough DMT into you fast enough to break through. I don't think harmine would help you take additional hits, but I believe it may boost the effectiveness of the hits you are able to take enough for you to get closer to a breakthrough. It may be enough.

Happy travels friend. Mush love.
KTX out.

Thanks for the tip! I've definitely been thinking about investing in a vape/eRig just to get the full dose all at once. I'm hoping this will reduce the stress of the 'time crunch' and help me enjoy the experience more. Any recommendations on a good quality unit?

 

[RhythmOfLife]

Drink some mixed with juice or soft drink an hour before will be likely more effective than sublingual.


You don't need to repack the bong. You can 'overload' the bowl with all that you need for multiple hits first then when you light up and inhale you will naturally reach your limit with how much smoke you can take in with a single toke. If you need to go again then you can simply light up again and it will already be packed for another hit or two.

Any recommendation for dosage mixed with juice?

 

[Jamie01]

Ok yes thanks for clarifying that. It sounds like you are just on the edge of where you want to be.

Like others said a different vape(not carts) or bong etc should get a higher dose into you quicker and that might be all you need.

Good luck!

 

[KTX]

Thanks for the tip! I've definitely been thinking about investing in a vape/eRig just to get the full dose all at once. I'm hoping this will reduce the stress of the 'time crunch' and help me enjoy the experience more. Any recommendations on a good quality unit?

Hello RhythmOfLife
I acquired a GeekVape S100 for a somewhat reasonable cost, under 100 dollars, and it delivers up to 100 watts with temp control supporting nickel, titanium, and steel coils.
You may be able to find a unit with these features for less, but I wanted to walk into a store with money and walk out with the thing I needed as I generally hate waiting for things in the mail, and searching for a suitable unit online was becoming tiring.

Best wishes and happy travels.

 

[yatyas314]

I don't think it will help you get the last hit onboard. In my experience it has only prolonged the feeling of the peak that you describe.
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