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Void's Journey Into Silence

People never go all the way, and they enjoy playing ego games at all levels. When you have truly risen above societal restrictions internally, you can easily engage with society. It will never have the same grip on you or govern your behavior. Preachers are just another part of a culture selling stuff. A real preacher never assumes this role; it is forced upon him by others. Westerners are crazy, by the way. We are all crazy here and trying to sell it as sanity. I would laugh every day if it were not so sad.
Just as I apologized to void...I wasn't being pessimistic just giving another perspective. I have truly risen above finally gotten to a point that I care in a sense if ppl like me but don't give a damn what anyone thinks of me. Bc I figured out we are all our own worst critics beating ourselves up all day. So I know your judgements is mediocre compared to what your self talk is doing behind the scenes.
 
Another note is how one thinks, which informs and directs them through the world. Again, myself as an example, not showing any egotistical side, one can see even here I'm on a different wavelength. While many pick conceptual camps of one form or another, it's very hard for me to. I juggle metaphysical principles and hop merrily along through and in paradigms (to address cultural narratives since I covered societal pressures on a personal note).

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That's a God given talent bro. Seriously..there's probably not many beings on earth you couldn't connect with. People pay billions and sadly some sit in depression bc they can't connect. I try and spark up a conversation with a stranger daily.

" stranger is a friend You just haven't met. "
 
That's a God given talent bro. Seriously..there's probably not many beings on earth you couldn't connect with. People pay billions and sadly some sit in depression bc they can't connect. I try and spark up a conversation with a stranger daily.

" stranger is a friend You just haven't met. "
I don't deny it's a gift. It very much so is. Let me put it another way, it connects me to others, but doesn't necessarily connect them to me. With this gift, another way we could say it, I am able to tune into others frequencies and align from that point more so than many can to mine.

It's just a weird lonely personal issue that won't necessarily "get better," which I'm learning to be okay with.

It came about in talking about themes of loneliness on many levels, but how connections in hyperspace often alleviate that in ways, but...

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This natural Self-Consciousness of mere Existence, without any sense of duality, is the Supreme Silence,
which is glorified [by the scriptures] as the perfection of Jnana (*wisdom), and which cannot be known by the ego, the foolish demon-nature.

Verse 267 from Guru Vachaka Kovai by Sri Muruganar & Sri Ramana
 
Taking things too seriously, not out of need for external direction, but out of consideration and knowing my own limits, with a little bit of inferiority, so I don't see I'm wasting my time, I'm working on letting loose.

I'm smoalking leisurely, which is weird. It's leisurely relative to what we have going on here. It's not leisurely like smoking cannabis or drinking a beer. But I am being more leisurely about it.

This week has been good and sucked at the same time, leaving me trying to figure out how to "be myself" while trying to interact with others when my needs often aren't met... I'm bored. I had to tell someone this week who got mad at me when they told me to be myself that it's hard to be myself if it hurts people, even if what hurts comes from a place of care and is coupled with an ever-present incisiveness.

That said, I could use some medicine, but don't have time for anything not smoalked. I usually don't smoalk for about a week after getting tattooed because it feels like getting the whole piece at once again for several seconds during the onset. It's hot! But, though the decision had been made, I also realized that I don't focus at all on my enjoyment. I don't think about it.

But I went for it, because I didn't give an f about what was hindering me.

It's like doing things to enjoy it is wrong... idfk. As I've said, I clearly have some deep seated issues with myself. Leisurely smoalking helps to not obly understand them but to transmute, transform, and transport them as well.

I've done the journey work. Now I can chill in the inner work until the tide changes. The inner work right now is being less uptight about what's good for me and less concerned with optics on what's true for me (and seemingly others regarding me often times).

Random diatribe cuz I just landed.

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I had to tell someone this week who got mad at me when they told me to be myself that it's hard to be myself if it hurts people, even if what hurts comes from a place of care and is coupled with an ever-present incisiveness.
You're blessed to have someone around whom you can be yourself with. We need to know who we are to be genuine. It's like a work in progress all the time. I get what people mean, but it goes so much deeper. We can start by reframing it to "trust yourself" and "know yourself," and maybe later on a real "be yourself" becomes a possibility.
As I've said, I clearly have some deep seated issues with myself. Leisurely smoalking helps to not obly understand them but to transmute, transform, and transport them as well.
It is good that smoking helps you. This practice is very similar to tantra. We embrace life and ourselves, and by doing so, we transform reality. The basis of goodness and love is always here. Just smoke away with awareness and respect. The flow of life will show the way. Our stuff and resistance are the fuel for the road to ourselves.

pipe einstein GIF
 
I think there's a misunderstanding. This same person who told me to be myself pretty much got upset when I was being myself... there's very few people I feel i can be with and I don't reach out because I feel like a burden.

We embrace life and ourselves, and by doing so, we transform reality.
The philosophical stickler in me has to comment on this. I see it as we're shifting some aspects of our phenomenology of reality. Not to say we don't "change" "reality" on our own sometimes (I put it in quotes because I find it questionable).

However, to get at the heart of your response thank you for the support and encouragement. The respect is always there. I don't worry about that anymore. And I just landed again. It just helps me be aligned. Its simply good for me and expanding on that is complicated.

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I think there's a misunderstanding. This same person who told me to be myself pretty much got upset when I was being myself... there's very few people I feel i can be with and I don't reach out because I feel like a burden.
Oh, I see. I'll reframe then: it's hard to find someone whom you can be yourself with. Most of them would follow your friend: be yourself inside the boundaries I define. True freedom is a rare occurrence.
The philosophical stickler in me has to comment on this. I see it as we're shifting some aspects of our phenomenology of reality. Not to say we don't "change" "reality" on our own sometimes (I put it in quotes because I find it questionable).
Our "reality" is based on stories we tell ourselves. Engaging with them tends to clear stuff and produce a more coherent storyline. I don't know about direct perception of the world. Maybe it's the next step after homogenizing our narrative.
 
Our "reality" is based on stories we tell ourselves. Engaging with them tends to clear stuff and produce a more coherent storyline. I don't know about direct perception of the world. Maybe it's the next step after homogenizing our narrative.
Thanks for sharing what you meant. In a certain sense we meant the same thing. I only think subjective reality when someone says that. Otherwise when I hear someone say "reality" I tend to interpret that in the way it seems to be most descriptive used by others, which is a definition that appeals to the "objective" world and "consensus reality."

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Thanks for sharing what you meant. In a certain sense we meant the same thing. I only think subjective reality when someone says that. Otherwise when I hear someone say "reality" I tend to interpret that in the way it seems to be most descriptive used by others, which is a definition that appeals to the "objective" world and "consensus reality."

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I'm not a big believer in objective reality. It's supposed to exist and we kind of know it by inference, but all experience is subjective in the end. Even if we use tools, it's our perception that creates the final image. I can't deny the world, but it's my picture of it that I see.
 
I'm not a big believer in objective reality. It's supposed to exist and we kind of know it by inference, but all experience is subjective in the end. Even if we use tools, it's our perception that creates the final image. I can't deny the world, but it's my picture of it that I see.
We can never escape our own phenomenology. It's a paradox. A catch-22. Even when we use tools, we're shifting our phenomenology. The debate of scientific realism vs antirealism highlights this well. Objectivity is really an attempt that we ought to shoot for, but will never be successful at reaching. This seems to be misunderstood very often.

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I'll quote from Guru Vachaka Kovai once again:

46 The Supreme is concealed when the world is seen, and conversely, when the Supreme is seen, the world disappears. Both cannot be seen distinctly, as two separate entities, at the same time, [just as] in a carved statue of a dog, the dog and the stone cannot be seen as two separate entities simultaneously.

47 The world that veils the Self through names and forms, and appears to be real, is only a dream-like appearance. If, instead, that very same world gets veiled by the Self and appears as consciousness alone, then, as the Self, it too is real. The world of triputis is only the play of the power of consciousness.

* The triputis are the groups of three elements that are essential for perceiving an external world: seer, seeing and seen, and knower, knowing and known.

Bhagavan: The triputis and their source, pure consciousness, can, under no circumstances, appear simultaneously. Like the wood and the elephant in a wooden elephant, when one appears, the other will disappear. (Padamalai, p. 270, v. 7.)

Bhagavan: Just as when you see a stone carved into the form of a dog and you realise that it is only a stone, there is no dog for you; so also, if you see it only as a dog without realising that it is a stone, there is no stone for you. If you are existent, everything is existent; if you are non-existent, there is nothing existent in this world. If it is said that there is no dog, but there is a stone, it does not mean that the dog ran away on your seeing the stone. There is a story about this. A man wanted to see the king’s palace, so [he] started out. Now, there were two dogs carved out of stone, one on either side of the palace gateway. The man standing at a distance took them for real dogs and was afraid of going near them. A saint passing along that way noticed this and took the man along with him, saying, ‘Sir, there is no need to be afraid’. When the man got near enough to see clearly, he saw that there were no dogs, and what he had thought to be dogs were just stone carvings. In the same way, if you see the world, the Self will not be visible; if you see the Self, the world will not be visible. A good teacher [Guru] is like that saint. (Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, 12th September, 1947.)
 
I have a stone elephant in my room. I notice the stone and the elephant at the same time almost every time. I can also see both images in many paradox images, like the old lady and the young lady, or the duck and the hare. I can also switch back and forth on command.

However, idk if my experience applies to anything outside a certain scope... but part of my own conundrums to navigate is "seeing" too many things at once.

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I have a stone elephant in my room. I notice the stone and the elephant at the same time almost every time. I can also see both images in many paradox images, like the old lady and the young lady, or the duck and the hare. I can also switch back and forth on command.

However, idk if my experience applies to anything outside a certain scope... but part of my own conundrums to navigate is "seeing" too many things at once.

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Sri Ramana would ask "Who is seeing?" 🤓
I think this metaphor is more to show that we can't see objective and subjective at the same time 🤔
If we truly go beyond ego into pure awareness, even the world becomes real from that viewpoint.
 
Sri Ramana would ask "Who is seeing?" 🤓
I think this metaphor is more to show that we can't see objective and subjective at the same time 🤔
If we truly go beyond ego into pure awareness, even the world becomes real from that viewpoint.
I might ask him what is who lol.
And that's kinda the scope I was alluding to. I have very good objective attempts, even to the point of self-destruction, but there's always a subjectivity i can't escape.
Without ego, it's hard to say, one becomes so... indifferent. 🤣

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I might ask him what is who lol.
It was my feeble attempt. His "who" is just a pointer to "I" or ego. It's not a question, but a mnemonic device to look at yourself all the time.
And that's kinda the scope I was alluding to. I have very good objective attempts, even to the point of self-destruction, but there's always a subjectivity i can't escape.
Without ego, it's hard to say, one becomes so... indifferent. 🤣
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Yeah, trying to imagine it would be just ego games. I agree with Sri Ramana that ego is the best candidate for an exit door. We come into the world through the ego, and most likely it's the exit. What's on the other side is indescribable. If it lies beyond ego and its language apparatus, then even sages' words are just approximations.
Silence ❤️
 
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