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Why DMT Scares Me

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Oh, boy, this helped me feel better.

I smoalked some amount almost everyday last week 🤣

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Do you ever notice subtle changes to your vision like when your a day or two or 10 from last using? for instance meditating eyes closed days after use and noticing patterns or small changes in light or color. I don't know if i'm just tuned into them now or if its an afterglow effect, but its almost like i'm either picking up more frequency or signal from everyday life.
Btw I looked at a calendar and I was being more generous to myself it was like 9 days not 3 weeks 🧐
 
Update im parachuting back in as I am typing, but I overcame any fear and had a really knock your socks off challenging reality as I understand it session. from about midnight to 5am...... I played around with some different Teks and NPS and Holy hell the A/B with salt and heat and Heptane as NPS... Blew my reality wide open. Im normally a earbud guy but I tore those out and spent some time real Terrence Mckenna style. WOW...
This is why DMT scares me.😁

Also its also like a slightly different texture than any previous extracts I have enjoyed in the past. much less temperature sensitive and gave me really powerful concentrated hits, I think I might of done two and my world came apart...... What a molecule.

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Do you ever notice subtle changes to your vision like when your a day or two or 10 from last using? for instance meditating eyes closed days after use and noticing patterns or small changes in light or color. I don't know if i'm just tuned into them now or if its an afterglow effect, but its almost like i'm either picking up more frequency or signal from everyday life.
Btw I looked at a calendar and I was being more generous to myself it was like 9 days not 3 weeks 🧐
There seems to be an attunement as well as in increase in acuity.

Update im parachuting back in as I am typing, but I overcame any fear and had a really knock your socks off challenging reality as I understand it session. from about midnight to 5am...... I played around with some different Teks and NPS and Holy hell the A/B with salt and heat and Heptane as NPS... Blew my reality wide open. Im normally a earbud guy but I tore those out and spent some time real Terrence Mckenna style. WOW...
This is why DMT scares me.😁

Also its also like a slightly different texture than any previous extracts I have enjoyed in the past. much less temperature sensitive and gave me really powerful concentrated hits, I think I might of done two and my world came apart...... What a molecule.

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5 hours... man, I am a neurotic worry wart🤣

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Honoring myself and keeping my word, I've been perusing my old posts with an outside perspective.

I have had quite some deep journeys on less than 20mg... that's something to remember... and those are just the ones that I've posted!

It's the unpredictability. It seems for many, they know what they'll get with a given dose. I don't.

As I work with this increasing sensitivity in finding my dose, it's apt to bear in mind that any increase is going to be exponential in effect for me. The jump from 10mg to 15mg is stark by the record of my memory and reading these old reports.

And it's nice to be over "doing it too much." I'm pretty damn mindful, I can be confident in that. Besides, there's plenty in my life that encourages me into these spaces and experiences.

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I've read much of this thread and many of your reports. From an outside perspective, I understand your worries.

It seems very unpredictable for you. And if your experiences are what you describe, shit seems pretty damn weird... but it's DMT. DMT is weird bro.

But you also seem pretty self aware. Lean into that.

At the end of the day, there's a point you have to just start going for it. You seem to have all the info you really need.

Now, with love, shut up and smoalk moar.

Edit: your mileage is something to envy btw.
 
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There seems to be an attunement as well as in increase in acuity.


5 hours... man, I am a neurotic worry wart🤣

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Catching back up on threads and I just read back my last post here and I am still just as "scared" as I was when this thread started. I often think back to trip reports or journals and reflect on the intense work that happens not just under the effect of DMT but the behaviours that revolve around the ritual I have turned it into. To embark on a journey I try to make sure that everything is as shored up and as stable as it can be at that time, marriage, kids, finance, work, environment and body. Just that improves the life of everyone in my sphere of influence.
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Catching back up on threads and I just read back my last post here and I am still just as "scared" as I was when this thread started. I often think back to trip reports or journals and reflect on the intense work that happens not just under the effect of DMT but the behaviours that revolve around the ritual I have turned it into. To embark on a journey I try to make sure that everything is as shored up and as stable as it can be at that time, marriage, kids, finance, work, environment and body. Just that improves the life of everyone in my sphere of influence.
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Update 0430 went all night, did lots of harmale and THH sub lingual as well as smoking Harmaline freebase with a blend of Dmt freebase. I went a lot of places some good some not. Working out some real powerful emotion.. probably should not be one eyeing it on the forum ........
 
I'm pushing up against an interesting boundary. It's not that I'm stretching a capability or capacity but rather pushing the understanding and realization of capability and capacity. That is, I am stretching the capacity for realizing a type of capacity and capability already inherent to my system.

I've subtly know for the past few years that despite my struggles, by continuing on, I am increasing my readiness for deeper spaces... even if I can't see or feel it. Low dose is definitely a conditioning practice, and if we're being honest, I practice a lot.

Last night was helpful. Zapotecorums are weird, and I love it. I was judicious in only taking 200mg. I casually, but reverently toked some changa until it got too weird... I was also immersed in some inner work and made sure to take careful note of how I guided myself. It's like I have to show and convince myself by virtue of being taught to see and think otherwise.

As we finally ready ourselves for deeper spaces, my axe of not giving a f in hand, I've moved all of my DMT devices and pipes to a closer location to my altar and bed.

I have a feeling that I may not need more than 25mg to get fully in... I know I've been pretty gone with 15.

What's cool for me, and I just need to lean in and navigate, is a certain agency, that's weird to maintain, but still seem to have, and I've talked about it before. I can have multiple experiences at once such that I can be deep in hyperspace, but not completely removed from my body. It's a gift. Not something to shy away from.

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This is a good insight. After all, why would unawareness of the body be necessary for deep experiences? And I say it having implicitly made that assumption myself.
I've remembered a fun statement from the Guru Vachaka Kovai:

558 If it is asked ['When the dream body and the waking body are different,] why does the semen of the waking body leak out from a man who experiences coitus with a woman in the dream body?' the answer is, this is due to the speed with which the mind springs into the waking body from the dream body.

The I-thought can very fast switch between bodies and states, making it all seem seamless. Same way, our thoughts change so fast, creating an illusion of a personal identity.
"I am the body" is a superimposition on our Being, which is a deeper level of reality. We have no awareness of the body in deep sleep. The only difference between deep sleep and realization is awareness. Our reference is self-awareness, and we need to mature into pure awareness. That's how I view it.
 
However, that needn't mean unawareness of the body. Awareness of the body and the thought "this body is me" may be related but aren't the same.
Very good point indeed. In Ramana's system, everything apart from Being or "I am" is a thought; thus, even the body is a thought. The practice is keeping attention only on Being and by doing so, to dive into the reality behind it (pure awareness). How the body would appear from that reference point is beyond me. I am just sharing a few points that I find relevant. Take from it anything you want. I have no authority to comment on reality beyond sharing from reputable sources.
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Alright, @ommani Is a damn troublemaker in the best way possible. I'm thankful for it.

We were going back and forth on my profile last night, where I stated that since I had had two mushroom journeys in 8 days and changa throughout as well as with one of the journeys, I should take a break.

Look at my profile to see his shenanigans!

I had mentioned I was trying to be wise and mindful in order to avoid overdoing it... am I overdoing it? No. So do I need this break? No.

I know how to process multiple experiences at once and when aligned, this is what I do. Not chasing a dragon or anything.

So I'm probably not on a break. I just took a day 🤣

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I may take a changa break and work with the sandwich method for a while because last night was awesome.

A strong floral aroma, I felt appreciation and connection to myself for the magic extracted from mimosa. I always appreciate mimosa. I just think about it and it see it in my mind and feel it in my soul ALL the time (I wonder if that'll happen when I start working with more acacia). I don't always appreciate myself.

10mg atop a plug nug and a light dusting of flower on top. The goal is to get it all in one or two hits, everytime, no matter the dose.

My intent was to stay centered in self, aligned, working to remember and acknowledging capability and capacity. There was excitement in my body, but not my mind.

It was easy. It was really really nice. Like REALLY REALLY nice. So nice, that I did it again, a little more nervous this time though.

There be tricksters in these parts!

The extant visuals were mild, like the space was baiting me, making them more and less vivid over time. In the redose though, the experience came on as if there would be more visual content and then put me in a void!

There be tricksters in these parts!

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the sandwich method
Hm, there's the "ayahuasca" sandwich (really anahuasca but wotevs) that is kind of actually worth a go, but of course you mean igniting some layers of herbs and such.

Oral/culinary administration commits one to a different timeframe. I'd be interested to hear if you ever get around to trying the comestible version ;)
 
Hm, there's the "ayahuasca" sandwich (really anahuasca but wotevs) that is kind of actually worth a go, but of course you mean igniting some layers of herbs and such.

Oral/culinary administration commits one to a different timeframe. I'd be interested to hear if you ever get around to trying the comestible version ;)
Oh, I will, seeing as I'm feeling all sorts of wild right now.

To exemplify this, on a whim I ate some zapotecorums on Friday. Then I pulled out a variety of older mushrooms that I feel are time to eat. Then I also have plenty of harmala capsules prepped for pharma. It'll only be a matter of time before I decide to expand outward.

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There are very good reasons for my madness with DMT.

It's a full moon and the Hunter's moon today, so not only am I going to clean my malas, but I also continued with the work.

It was a long day and I got a lot done (pointing and laughing at the part of me that worries about "overdoing" it). Upon arriving home, I took my time unloading my stuff and cleaning my room and prepping the space, even responding to a few threads in the process.

Visited the porcelain throne.

Then I weighed my first 10mg dose. Added it into the small amount that was in the bowl from yesterday and then sprinkled a little bit of the same cannabis strain from yesterday as well.

Feeling very calm, very relaxed, I opened the space and lit some Paolo Santo. Shaking the rue rattle, speaking the invocation, commencing the ceremony. Taking one long strong pull, the bowl was almost toasted by the end. I lit it one more time for good measure, only leaving a slight amount of flower on the edges of the pipe (not even enough for a hit, just a slight amount of green). I set the pipe down and laid my head on my zafu and relaxed. While the experience was somatic on the onset with my system resetting itself and reaching homeostasis through shaking, it was mainly mental, with some very slight visual fluctuations. There's not too much to say as, it was just a space to do the work on myself and to connect with this rare and beautiful day, celebrating the full moon. Center, align, celebrate.

As part of this practice of re-introducing myself to the space and moving deeper, I made it mandatory to redose, reminding myself that "10mg is easy," something I had said to myself a few times throughout the day while reflecting. "10mg is easy."

Part of me is scared of the visual aspect of these experiences because well... even on low doses I've seen some shit.

I packed the bowl again with another 10mg.

I got all of it in one hit this time and was very please with that.

This whole time, I was calm, even if scared. I was calm.

This dose was absolutely nothing like the first one!

While subdued in ways and devoid of color, the space made a cool little room for me to hang out in... I could feel another mind there and we just hung out. I'm not always trying to interact necessarily and there is work for me to do is this space I feel. I was very pleased with the calm stoic entry and navigation of this experience even though it was a total surprise. Since starting this project, this one has been the most visual.

This had many somatic hallmarks to me as well. There was an energy, like a thread, or a snake, or eel, moving though, exploring and opening up my body, while also this general wave and rush. A vibration that broke me down and dissolved me physically. I spent a while in this room (the room in hyperspace is what I mean, though my bedroom counts too) and spent a while in this dissolved state, allowing it and wanting more of it.

It's funny to have been dissolved because alchemically I feel I'm at a stage of coagulation. It could be a prelude to another process beginning.

I know what I said above, but at the same time I do wanna see stuff...

Another piece I'd like to name is that this was in silence.

When I'm centered in self and well-aligned, I don't find a need to justify my disembarkation. The hypothetical heathens that plague me in my mind go away. A part of me is always ready to try and explain and justify my actions, even the ones that I shouldn't have to... well, at least, a part of me used to be that way...

And yet another is that I am pleased with myself with the slow flow of the overall process. DMT scares me, and makes me anxious, and I usually have to be so much more conscientious about my pace and how quickly I get into the space. I was like water. Even when the experience was moar than I expected.

I've slowed down so much that I actually wrote this in a rough draft kind of way and then went back and tidied it up and added more content (but I wrote this before actually doing that).

I don't think that I'll actually take a break from changa after all because shortly after these experiences I found myself missing harmalas. They are pure magic too. So, I'm just gonna do both!

These experiences are reminders. These experiences help me remember.

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